holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:Tank while the Nets go for a chip...Yeah, that's happening...
Obviously James Dolan is a moron so i dont expect him to make things better. this is just me as a diehard knick fan hoping for the good of the teams future
Dolan is far from being a moron..Dolan has tripled his money last year and half ...
As a fan i could care less about how much him or his father has made. I just care about the team. I dont have any power over what happens, im just stating what i feel is best for the basketball team
And as an owner, he could care less about what u think...Dolan cares about the bottom line..But that is your opinion on what is best, doesn't make u correct...
I never said i had all the answers, However this team is a mess right now i think we can at least agree on that right?
The guy u wanted running the show and whose plan u endorsed signed Amare who is the reason we can't compete...Can we agree on that???
I never said i wnated Donnie walsh running teh show. Believe me i gave him plenty of criticism for the Amare signing as well as using the amnesty on billups instead of amare
Hear holfresh now and believe him later
James Dolan will never, ever start over. Rebuild is not in his vocabulary.
You don't rebuild after pouring a billion dollars into renovating the Worlds Most Famous Arena
misterearl wrote:Hear holfresh now and believe him laterJames Dolan will never, ever start over. Rebuild is not in his vocabulary.
You don't rebuild after pouring a billion dollars into renovating the Worlds Most Famous Arena
Great way to get your post count higher tho...
misterearl wrote:Hear holfresh now and believe him laterJames Dolan will never, ever start over. Rebuild is not in his vocabulary.
You don't rebuild after pouring a billion dollars into renovating the Worlds Most Famous Arena
I never said he would i simply said i wished we would. Im as realistic as they get but im allowed to have wishful thinking
Come on Irish...Stop it...
holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:Tank while the Nets go for a chip...Yeah, that's happening...
Obviously James Dolan is a moron so i dont expect him to make things better. this is just me as a diehard knick fan hoping for the good of the teams future
Dolan is far from being a moron..Dolan has tripled his money last year and half ...
takes one to know one. dolan is a moron and of low character to boot. he is merely a fortunate moron because new york city has 20 million potential seat fillers from which can be culled 19,000 customers every game. by sheer numbers there is a constant supply line of morons who are eager to be entertained by the slop he puts on the floor. it is really the most cynical of situations....
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:Tank while the Nets go for a chip...Yeah, that's happening...
Obviously James Dolan is a moron so i dont expect him to make things better. this is just me as a diehard knick fan hoping for the good of the teams future
Dolan is far from being a moron..Dolan has tripled his money last year and half ...
takes one to know one. dolan is a moron and of low character to boot. he is merely a fortunate moron because new york city has 20 million potential seat fillers from which can be culled 19,000 customers every game. by sheer numbers there is a constant supply line of morons who are eager to be entertained by the slop he puts on the floor. it is really the most cynical of situations....
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StarksEwing1 wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:Tank while the Nets go for a chip...Yeah, that's happening...
Obviously James Dolan is a moron so i dont expect him to make things better. this is just me as a diehard knick fan hoping for the good of the teams future
Dolan is far from being a moron..Dolan has tripled his money last year and half ...
takes one to know one. dolan is a moron and of low character to boot. he is merely a fortunate moron because new york city has 20 million potential seat fillers from which can be culled 19,000 customers every game. by sheer numbers there is a constant supply line of morons who are eager to be entertained by the slop he puts on the floor. it is really the most cynical of situations....
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Irish I just think he called u a moron...
I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Good Points. Im not saying we should/will get rid of everyone i just think we need to start bringing in some good young tallent either through the draft or trades
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:holfresh wrote:Tank while the Nets go for a chip...Yeah, that's happening...
Obviously James Dolan is a moron so i dont expect him to make things better. this is just me as a diehard knick fan hoping for the good of the teams future
Dolan is far from being a moron..Dolan has tripled his money last year and half ...
takes one to know one. dolan is a moron and of low character to boot. he is merely a fortunate moron because new york city has 20 million potential seat fillers from which can be culled 19,000 customers every game. by sheer numbers there is a constant supply line of morons who are eager to be entertained by the slop he puts on the floor. it is really the most cynical of situations....
I don't understand this..You are one of the biggest supporters of MDA and Donnie...Donnie gave a guy with bad knees 100 mil over 5 years..MDA ran him into the ground in half a season and now u complain about Dolan???...U were constantly talking about Donnie's vision and the .500 team and now u are pissed???
StarksEwing - what "good young talent" are the Knicks beating he rest of the NBA to?
Get real.
You either have high draft picks, tradeable assets whose contracts match and a heap of good luck.
You also make good use if every available roster spot
Not going to happen. You will get 5+ more years of mediocre teams built around a questionable 'superstar,' buy some orange jerseys and like it.
toad wrote:Not going to happen. You will get 5+ more years of mediocre teams built around a questionable 'superstar,' buy some orange jerseys and like it.
I agree basically we are going to be in the Isiah Thomas Era Part II
StarksEwing1 wrote:toad wrote:Not going to happen. You will get 5+ more years of mediocre teams built around a questionable 'superstar,' buy some orange jerseys and like it.
I agree basically we are going to be in the Isiah Thomas Era Part II
It won't be that bad. We'll probably make the playoffs.
CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
They traded almost nothing for Bargs.
CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
They traded almost nothing for Bargs.
crush-- a 2014 2nd rounder--believe me that is going to be like a #1 a 2016 #1 adn a 2017 is a sizeable amount for a player no one else wanted to pay for.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
They traded almost nothing for Bargs.
crush-- a 2014 2nd rounder--believe me that is going to be like a #1 a 2016 #1 adn a 2017 is a sizeable amount for a player no one else wanted to pay for.
exactly, underrating draft picks to make bad trades seem decent needs to stop. I know people are conditioned to do it since this is what the badly run Knicks always do. We gave away a 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders for him. We are not even counting the players right now. People said the 1st rounder would be a low one. Looking at both the nugget and Knicks this year it is not guaranteed to be a low one like many people predicted.
No matter how well or bad Bargs does not change the fact that we overpaid for a guy that their GM said he will Amnesty before the Amnesty deadline if he could not trade him. He said this in the first interview he got when he got the Gm job.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
They traded almost nothing for Bargs.
crush-- a 2014 2nd rounder--believe me that is going to be like a #1 a 2016 #1 adn a 2017 is a sizeable amount for a player no one else wanted to pay for.
It is projected to be the 59th pick in the draft. It was okc's pick.
CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I think you have to know what and who you are. The Knicks are not changing ownership and are not rebuilding. They don't have many picks anyway. They do have a star in his twenties and they can try to build around him. Their cap situation (Amare) limits what they can do. I thought Grunwald was very smart in how he was assembling the team. His firing and the keeping of Chris Smith certainly are discouraging. The new cba doesn't allow for a flavor of the month approach like Isiah had.
Trading what we did for Bargs says otherwise.
They traded almost nothing for Bargs.
crush-- a 2014 2nd rounder--believe me that is going to be like a #1 a 2016 #1 adn a 2017 is a sizeable amount for a player no one else wanted to pay for.
It is projected to be the 59th pick in the draft. It was okc's pick.
We gave up a first round pic too
And another 2nd round pic.
They should have been giving us pics for taking Bargnani in exchange for the best 3 point shooter in the game.
