You are right that's why I wasn't high on this team because we dont have the pices to upgrade PG. I thought they would win 46. Right now they'd be lucky to crack 40
We're basically in another Jerermy Lin situation where we need an unexpected salvation from a D League PG. I don't know what the heck is wrong with Felton or Beno, but they've been awful. Prigs is who he is and you can't expect him to carry the action at his age. Can't accept the level of play from Felton this year. He's supposed to carry the load. He's occupying too much cap space not to be an effective PG at the top of the rotation.
I've been callin for Murry to get minutes just to develop the kid and see if he can give us a spark. It's clear he's raw but he's also got some physical talent the other PG's don't have. If Beno isn't gonna play then i'd rather see Murry get a few minutes to get his feet wet. Can't be worse the the Matador D we've been getting at PG. I don't think it's humanly possible to be worse.
gunsnewing wrote:You are right that's why I wasn't high on this team because we dont have the pices to upgrade PG. I thought they would win 46. Right now they'd be lucky to crack 40
Yeah but if not metta/prigs with the mini mle who was your solution that you said the knicks should target at point at 3.3?
Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
There was no solution. The damage was done long ago. I'm not among Grunwald. It's Organization. Trade picks, don't let young players develop and when they show promise trade them immediately for castoffs or let them walk for nothing
This is why Felton is still our starting PG
holfresh wrote:Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
Well it would be Watson instead of Metta/Prigs. I go with Metta/Prigs and I think Prigs is well worth his contract.
CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
Well it would be Watson instead of Metta/Prigs. I go with Metta/Prigs and I think Prigs is well worth his contract.
Thought Metta signed for the vet min??..Watson instead of Beno and Prigs..
holfresh wrote:CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
Well it would be Watson instead of Metta/Prigs. I go with Metta/Prigs and I think Prigs is well worth his contract.
Thought Metta signed for the vet min??..Watson instead of Beno and Prigs..
No Metta got the other half of the mini mle.
CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
Well it would be Watson instead of Metta/Prigs. I go with Metta/Prigs and I think Prigs is well worth his contract.
Thought Metta signed for the vet min??..Watson instead of Beno and Prigs..
No Metta got the other half of the mini mle.
Metta making 1.6 and vet min 1.4...They could have worked it out...
How much did Watson get? Isn't he pushing 30?
holfresh wrote:CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:Watson was out there to be had but folks loves Prigs..
Well it would be Watson instead of Metta/Prigs. I go with Metta/Prigs and I think Prigs is well worth his contract.
Thought Metta signed for the vet min??..Watson instead of Beno and Prigs..
No Metta got the other half of the mini mle.
Metta making 1.6 and vet min 1.4...They could have worked it out...
I think they had to offer him the most they could to show respect and that they wanted him but again, Metta/Prigs versus CJ I go with the former.
There was no way to expect that Felton would perform this poorly. Heck Woody was confident that Felton was his starting PG no doubt about it. The answer has to come from Felton playing better than he has. The same goes for JR. To think this team isn't capable of winning the games that we predicted for this year as if they have no talent is wrong. Players have to step up and perform at their expected level.
Last year vs. this year:
Melo 28.7/6.9 rebs FG% .449 3pt% .379
26.1/8.5 rebs FG% .432 3pt% .375
JR 18.1/5.3 rebs FG% .422 3pt% .356
10.7/5.7 rebs FG% .257 3pt% .353
Felton 13.9/5.5 asts FG% .427 3pt% .360
11.6/5.3 asts FG% .376 3pt% .200
This along with the putrid defense the team is playing is a real problem, however, if JR and Felton were to start playing like they should, combined with Bargs and a returning Tyson, that would be the team we were expecting this year.
Is Woodson the coach to get this team on track? Can Felton and JR get their act together? Gotta believe that it's entirely possible to get these things corrected but there is doubt.
nixluva wrote:There was no way to expect that Felton would perform this poorly. Heck Woody was confident that Felton was his starting PG no doubt about it. The answer has to come from Felton playing better than he has. The same goes for JR. To think this team isn't capable of winning the games that we predicted for this year as if they have no talent is wrong. Players have to step up and perform at their expected level.Last year vs. this year:
Melo 28.7/6.9 rebs FG% .449 3pt% .379
26.1/8.5 rebs FG% .432 3pt% .375
JR 18.1/5.3 rebs FG% .422 3pt% .356
10.7/5.7 rebs FG% .257 3pt% .353
Felton 13.9/5.5 asts FG% .427 3pt% .360
11.6/5.3 asts FG% .376 3pt% .200
This along with the putrid defense the team is playing is a real problem, however, if JR and Felton were to start playing like they should, combined with Bargs and a returning Tyson, that would be the team we were expecting this year.
Is Woodson the coach to get this team on track? Can Felton and JR get their act together? Gotta believe that it's entirely possible to get these things corrected but there is doubt.
Felton isn't driving and getting in the lane..His hammy might not be 100%..
gunsnewing wrote:How much did Watson get? Isn't he pushing 30?
I checked trade checker. He got a little over 2 mil. Knicks lose Prigs and Metta if they go that route and Cope is gone also.
I don't think Watson would made a difference anyway
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:There was no way to expect that Felton would perform this poorly. Heck Woody was confident that Felton was his starting PG no doubt about it. The answer has to come from Felton playing better than he has. The same goes for JR. To think this team isn't capable of winning the games that we predicted for this year as if they have no talent is wrong. Players have to step up and perform at their expected level.Last year vs. this year:
Melo 28.7/6.9 rebs FG% .449 3pt% .379
26.1/8.5 rebs FG% .432 3pt% .375
JR 18.1/5.3 rebs FG% .422 3pt% .356
10.7/5.7 rebs FG% .257 3pt% .353
Felton 13.9/5.5 asts FG% .427 3pt% .360
11.6/5.3 asts FG% .376 3pt% .200
This along with the putrid defense the team is playing is a real problem, however, if JR and Felton were to start playing like they should, combined with Bargs and a returning Tyson, that would be the team we were expecting this year.
Is Woodson the coach to get this team on track? Can Felton and JR get their act together? Gotta believe that it's entirely possible to get these things corrected but there is doubt.
Felton isn't driving and getting in the lane..His hammy might not be 100%..
Opposing guards are whipping around Felton like he's a statue. Something isn't right. He was never great but this is ridiculous. If he needs to sit and heal, then Woody needs to consider starting Prigs and getting minutes from Beno and/or Murry. Can't be worse than losing at home like this. Felton is a liability on defense and it's killing the team.
I agree but beno is even more of a statue defensively than Felton. Murray is not ready. Lin wasn't ready until Jan/Feb either
gunsnewing wrote:I agree but beno is even more of a statue defensively than Felton. Murray is not ready. Lin wasn't ready until nan/feb either
Beno has looked like a guy that didn't spend one minute training this off season. Also can't understand why Beno has been so selfish with the minutes he did get. He wasn't looking to run the offense and setup the big guns which is shocking. Be that as it may, if Felton is hurting they need to rest him and make Beno earn his paycheck or at least appeal to his pride.
Pretty much everything i've felt about this group of players has came true.
Firstly, they aren't as good as last years group, no one should be disputing that now.
And as I've stated before, I truly cant blame the coach because this isnt his team....Woody likes a vet or two that he chooses and he doesnt have that....Kurt was his guy, as was Sheed, and he completely trusted Kidd, and those guys were instrumental in kick starting the team last year, but none of that is here now.
The team walked into training/preseason with their minds already made up who would take those last spots and two out of three didnt make it due to basketball merit....I like Cole, but he didnt exactly perform well, but he is a good player.
Chris Smith shouldnt be anywhere near an nba franchise.
No TRUE leadership, no one playing ABOVE expectations, and quiet honestly NO HEART.
Say what you will about other team with similar records.....talk to me when they drop HOME GAMES at the rate of these Knicks.
