Each has their fingerprints on personnel decisions. Their general manage are only in place to hold a seat and make suggestions. Ego overlaps into the day-to-day operation to the point where hiring a and firings are made on impulse, without a strategy.
Each franchise is rolling in cash reserves - but mired in mediocrity. In the case of the Washington franchise, the drama exceeds the on field output to the point the drama IS the show. Their handling of RG3 could sidetrack a promising career. Dallas has great material infrastructure but little discipline.
Meanwhile, back at Madison Square Garden... the general manager acting like a GM is holding a seat for the GM in-training in the same manner Mike Woodson held his seat und Mike D'Antoni.
All three billionaires are accustomed to buying anything they want. Like most owners, they can afford to. The missing ingredient, however, is soul. How Daniel Snyder can support a racist mascot is mind-boggling.
How James Dolan can have access to resources and experts, and over rule people like Donnie Walsh, or fire a Glen Grunwald on the eve of the season, only keeps his franchise on a treadmill to nowhere.
Are we having fun yet?
misterearl wrote:Each has their fingerprints on personnel decisions. Their general manage are only in place to hold a seat and make suggestions. Ego overlaps into the day-to-day operation to the point where hiring a and firings are made on impulse, without a strategy.Each franchise is rolling in cash reserves - but mired in mediocrity. In the case of the Washington franchise, the drama exceeds the on field output to the point the drama IS the show. Their handling of RG3 could sidetrack a promising career. Dallas has great material infrastructure but little discipline.
Meanwhile, back at Madison Square Garden... the general manager acting like a GM is holding a seat for the GM in-training in the same manner Mike Woodson held his seat und Mike D'Antoni.
All three billionaires are accustomed to buying anything they want. Like most owners, they can afford to. The missing ingredient, however, is soul. How Daniel Snyder can support a racist mascot is mind-boggling.
How James Dolan can have access to resources and experts, and over rule people like Donnie Walsh, or fire a Glen Grunwald on the eve of the season, only keeps his franchise on a treadmill to nowhere.
Are we having fun yet?
Jerry Jones does have 3 chips.
Only difference is Jerry Jones once presided over a dynasty. But what he did then is give total control to Jimmy Johnson. Look what's happened since he started running things.
You are spot on about everything else.
BRIGGS wrote:misterearl wrote:Each has their fingerprints on personnel decisions. Their general manage are only in place to hold a seat and make suggestions. Ego overlaps into the day-to-day operation to the point where hiring a and firings are made on impulse, without a strategy.Each franchise is rolling in cash reserves - but mired in mediocrity. In the case of the Washington franchise, the drama exceeds the on field output to the point the drama IS the show. Their handling of RG3 could sidetrack a promising career. Dallas has great material infrastructure but little discipline.
Meanwhile, back at Madison Square Garden... the general manager acting like a GM is holding a seat for the GM in-training in the same manner Mike Woodson held his seat und Mike D'Antoni.
All three billionaires are accustomed to buying anything they want. Like most owners, they can afford to. The missing ingredient, however, is soul. How Daniel Snyder can support a racist mascot is mind-boggling.
How James Dolan can have access to resources and experts, and over rule people like Donnie Walsh, or fire a Glen Grunwald on the eve of the season, only keeps his franchise on a treadmill to nowhere.
Are we having fun yet?
Jerry Jones does have 3 chips.
Jerry Jones deferred to Jimmy Johnson once upon a time
Don't Touch The Hair
BRIGGS wrote:Jerry Jones does have 3 chips.
Context, homeskillet. Context.
Jerry Jones' ego could not handle the accolades being given to Jimmy Johnnson. The Cowboys are living on their past. Outstanding leaders do not care who gets the credit.
I miss Don Perkins and Don Meredith.
Dolan could not handle Checketts running the team and collecting accolades while Jimmy longed for respect from his daddy.
I don't think Dolan is a billionaire - the only net worth estimate I could find was for just under $500m.
franco12 wrote:I don't think Dolan is a billionaire - the only net worth estimate I could find was for just under $500m.
The Dolans as a family control MSG AMC Networks and Cablevision. I don't know the structure of anyone's wealth but the combined value of the companies breach 14B Hes not a Walton but he has his fingertips on stockpiles of $.Enough to pay off the Eagles to play frontman!
I take it Dolan is an Eagles fan? Hey maybe one day he will pay for a Guns N' Roses reunion? If he did that I'd forgive him for torturing me for years!
Al Davis before he passed away as well.
Wrong
tj23 wrote:Al Davis before he passed away as well.
Al Davis was a football innovator. He had an acute eye for talent and knew the brand of football he wanted to play. His early Oakland Raider teams were among the first to mine talent from HBCU's (historically black colleges and universities) and the NFL Hall of Fame is packed with his achievements.
But he knew football. A shrewd judge of talent, especially early in his career, he became known for providing a home for gifted, wayward athletes, signing or trading for some players who were undervalued or given up on by other teams, like quarterbacks Daryle Lamonica, George Blanda and Jim Plunkett, and running back Billy Cannon.
He rehabilitated others, like receiver Warren Wells, defensive linemen Lyle Alzado and John Matuszak, and quarterback Ken Stabler, whose reputations were sullied (either before or after they became Raiders) by allegations of criminal behavior, drug use, gambling or other transgressions.
No saint himself, Al Davis was a renegade and fought for his turf, wherever he wanted. We dug that about him.
Al Davis was no James Dolan.
"Just win baby"
Al Davis
He was also one of a dwindling number of N.F.L. owners whose riches came primarily from the business of football. There were no hedge funds or shipping companies in Mr. Davis’s background. He simply ran the Raiders
“I don’t want to be the most respected team in the league,” Mr. Davis said in 1981. “I want to be the most feared.”
"Just win baby"
misterearl wrote:Wrongtj23 wrote:Al Davis before he passed away as well.
Al Davis was a football innovator. He had an acute eye for talent and knew the brand of football he wanted to play. His early Oakland Raider teams were among the first to mine talent from HBCU's (historically black colleges and universities) and the NFL Hall of Fame is packed with his achievements.
But he knew football. A shrewd judge of talent, especially early in his career, he became known for providing a home for gifted, wayward athletes, signing or trading for some players who were undervalued or given up on by other teams, like quarterbacks Daryle Lamonica, George Blanda and Jim Plunkett, and running back Billy Cannon.
He rehabilitated others, like receiver Warren Wells, defensive linemen Lyle Alzado and John Matuszak, and quarterback Ken Stabler, whose reputations were sullied (either before or after they became Raiders) by allegations of criminal behavior, drug use, gambling or other transgressions.
No saint himself, Al Davis was a renegade and fought for his turf, wherever he wanted. We dug that about him.
Al Davis was no James Dolan.
"Just win baby"
The guy was also a dinosaur and drove his team into the ground the last decade taking athletic freaks over football players. The Raiders have been just as big of a joke as the knicks. They haven't made the playoffs since 2002. Al Davis always hired yes men he could control. Al Davis certainly was very similar to James Dolan, at least in recent memory.
Tj23 - Al Davis was a pro coach, general manager and an owner for over 50 years
James Dolan had the franchise handed to him by Daddy
Big difference.
Big.
BRIGGS wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't think Dolan is a billionaire - the only net worth estimate I could find was for just under $500m.
The Dolans as a family control MSG AMC Networks and Cablevision. I don't know the structure of anyone's wealth but the combined value of the companies breach 14B Hes not a Walton but he has his fingertips on stockpiles of $.Enough to pay off the Eagles to play frontman!
Not sure dolan owns all the stock. Cablevison and MSG are publically traded.
misterearl wrote:Tj23 - Al Davis was a pro coach, general manager and an owner for over 50 yearsJames Dolan had the franchise handed to him by Daddy
Big difference.
Big.
Over the course of their careers, yes. You are 100% correct. No comparison.
In the last ten years, the guy was hated by the majority of fans. And rightfully so. The only fans that still adored him were sorry apologists with delusions reminiscing of the glory years. The guy was worse than Matt Millen. He repeatedly drafted bust after bust, reaching for players, traded away the future, hired staff that wouldn't go against the grain, and refused to relinquish any control. There are countless examples that are dolan-esque.
"We don't rebuild, we reload."
Sound familiar at all?
Entitlement
Tj23 - Al Davis built the Raiders from scratch. James Dolan deconstructed the Knicks into a tourist attraction.
Al Davis coached, general managed and understood the game from being in the trenches. James Dolan has court side seats.
Al Davis was resented, despised and hated by many. James Dolan is a punch line.
Al Davis stalked the sidelines and created the Raider mystique. Jim Dolan docked the dance team a days pay.
Al Davis had 50+ years to make every mistake in the book. He did it his way. He was totally invested in the Raiders from a time standpoint. He also owns some sparkly championship rings
James Dolan has a band.
Big difference.
