Knicks · Was at the game tonight and noticed (page 3)

holfresh @ 12/28/2013 11:22 PM
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

Clean @ 12/28/2013 11:24 PM
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

smackeddog @ 12/29/2013 11:08 AM
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

Think that when he fouled Paul George at the end of the Pacers game, and Woody went on to throw him under a bus rather than defend him was the death of their already fractured relationship. Something happened between Shump and Woody in the offseason that started to sour their relationship. They went from Shump buying Woodys old college jersey and getting gifts off his daughter to hating each other before the season even began.

holfresh @ 12/29/2013 11:54 AM
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

Think that when he fouled Paul George at the end of the Pacers game, and Woody went on to throw him under a bus rather than defend him was the death of their already fractured relationship. Something happened between Shump and Woody in the offseason that started to sour their relationship. They went from Shump buying Woodys old college jersey and getting gifts off his daughter to hating each other before the season even began.

Shump is a player and Woody is the coach..Does this young man have parents...Jettison the mofo...

djsunyc @ 12/29/2013 4:47 PM

that deserves a benching or suspension...

dk7th @ 12/29/2013 5:11 PM
holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

Think that when he fouled Paul George at the end of the Pacers game, and Woody went on to throw him under a bus rather than defend him was the death of their already fractured relationship. Something happened between Shump and Woody in the offseason that started to sour their relationship. They went from Shump buying Woodys old college jersey and getting gifts off his daughter to hating each other before the season even began.

Shump is a player and Woody is the coach..Does this young man have parents...Jettison the mofo...

woodson is incompetent and gives preferential treatment to melo smith and felton, to the detriment of the knicks-- everyone knows that including shumpert.

woodson's weird double standards started with his very lukewarm treatment of jeremy lin.

CrushAlot @ 12/29/2013 5:40 PM
djsunyc wrote:

that deserves a benching or suspension...


Agree. Benching, suspension, trade to Toronto or Utah, something. That can't be allowed to happen.
playa2 @ 12/29/2013 6:23 PM
djsunyc wrote:

that deserves a benching or suspension...

Robert Horry, what did he get for throwing a towel in coach Danny Ainge's face on the bench in Phoenix ?

Or what's the difference between JR or Melo not running Woodson's offense and breaking it when he calls a play and all the teammates heard it called ?

holfresh @ 12/29/2013 6:40 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

Think that when he fouled Paul George at the end of the Pacers game, and Woody went on to throw him under a bus rather than defend him was the death of their already fractured relationship. Something happened between Shump and Woody in the offseason that started to sour their relationship. They went from Shump buying Woodys old college jersey and getting gifts off his daughter to hating each other before the season even began.

Shump is a player and Woody is the coach..Does this young man have parents...Jettison the mofo...

woodson is incompetent and gives preferential treatment to melo smith and felton, to the detriment of the knicks-- everyone knows that including shumpert.

woodson's weird double standards started with his very lukewarm treatment of jeremy lin.

Please stop..U have no clue..U are comparing the approach to a 10 year vet to that of a rookie..Learning curve is a little different..

dk7th @ 12/29/2013 8:58 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Clean wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tj23 wrote:I still think Shump develops into a good player, probably once he leaves this shithole. It's an offense designed to jack up threes.

Shump is talking back to the coach a lot even after he is making major defensive blunders..I'm not sure how many organizations want to put up with that..Dude let the NY extracurricular activities get in the way of his improvement...He gambles a lot now instead go playing straight up D...I have no time for guys with attitude...I defended at first when I heard Dolan wanted to trade him..I'm now begin to understand why...

I think he lost respect for Woody after the trying to start JR after the suspension and injury. It was obvious what was going on. I am not saying what Shump is doing is right. I am just saying what I think might be the reason for it.

Shump is in no position to lose respect for anyone..His game has not improved..He has regressed..He really should not be starting TimJr is better right now...

I agree with you on all of those points.

Think that when he fouled Paul George at the end of the Pacers game, and Woody went on to throw him under a bus rather than defend him was the death of their already fractured relationship. Something happened between Shump and Woody in the offseason that started to sour their relationship. They went from Shump buying Woodys old college jersey and getting gifts off his daughter to hating each other before the season even began.

Shump is a player and Woody is the coach..Does this young man have parents...Jettison the mofo...

woodson is incompetent and gives preferential treatment to melo smith and felton, to the detriment of the knicks-- everyone knows that including shumpert.

woodson's weird double standards started with his very lukewarm treatment of jeremy lin.

Please stop..U have no clue..U are comparing the approach to a 10 year vet to that of a rookie..Learning curve is a little different..

stop what? wake the fuck up: woodson is a whore-- in order to get this gig he had to fire his agent because dolan would not tolerate it any other way. that set the tone. throw in his "relationship" with that other shithead isaiah thomas, mix in a little cronyism, showing favoritism to players who don't deserve one iota of preferential treatment and you have the situation we have.

if it weren't for jason kidd and sheed last year the knicks would not won more than 45 games.

woodson's rotations are moronic, his lineups defy common sense, his in-game strategy is non-existent.

he, like dolan and melo, is a LOSER

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