Knicks · Adrian Woj goes off on JR (page 1)

VCoug @ 1/10/2014 9:37 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-benc...

Within days of J.R. Smith arriving armed with a historic $3 million contract, Zhejiang of the Chinese Basketball League had come to regret signing the clown prince of basketball. From unreasonable demands on the kind of car needed to curry him around the city, to skipping practices for shopping excursions in neighboring cities, to a relentless pattern of insubordination, Smith's bad act had never been worse.

Perhaps his greatest excess of idiocy had been a weekend of running a room service bill into the proximity of $3,000, a source with direct knowledge told Yahoo Sports. He kept ordering food, stacking piles of trays upon trays – "just to see if they would keep bringing it to the room," the source said.

All uneaten, all on the franchise's tab – all a window into a fool.

Smith would be fined more than $1 million in that lockout season in China, which is some kind of stupid considering he had gone overseas on the desperate premise of a money grab. He has come back to the States, signed two free-agent contracts with the New York Knicks and soon will push $1 million in fines for his NBA career. He's been suspended for a reckless driving death and fights and drugs. He's 28-years old, and he's learned little in his life except how to use basketball to get over on everyone again and again.

This time, it was the act of untying opponents' sneakers that cost him $50,000 and the ire of a Knicks organization that has longed enabled – even encouraged – the most mean-spirited and pointless of behavior.

Across 48 hours, the Knicks tried a different approach with Smith. First, they floated the empty threat of trading him. And then coach Mike Woodson benched him on Thursday night in a victory over the Miami Heat at Madison Square Garden.


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The Knicks benched Smith for their victory over the Heat. (USA Today)
Smith will be back again, and the Knicks will be at his mercy. After Smith was the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year last season, he found a sparse free-agent market over the summer. And, now, with a three-year, $18 million contract, knee surgery and a suspension to start the season, the Knicks couldn't even start a trade conversation on Smith without attaching a good, young player or a first-round draft pick to him.
This is a different NBA financial climate, where teams are stingier than ever on awarding long-term, guaranteed money to those as combustible and unreliable as Smith. Smith's exodus is a non-starter and the Knicks know it.

If Smith didn't have such an inflated opinion of himself, he'd probably know it, too. Everyone understands how this will go now: Smith will tell everyone that he needs to grow up, that he's let down his coach and teammates and fans. The Knicks will start to play him again, and it's just a matter of time until Smith's self-destructive act will resurface. Once again, he'll be ignorant to the score in the final seconds of a game – like the loss he cost the Knicks in Houston – or he'll get into trouble off the floor. Or probably both.

After his release from prison four years ago, Smith sat inside a New Jersey country club, and told me how the death of his close friend, caused by Smith's recklessness behind the wheel, had changed his life. From the guilt over the death, to a summer in a prison cell, to wanting his young daughter to never have to keep reading about his misdeeds, Smith vowed to be a changed man.

“I think I was a follower to an extent,” Smith told me. “If someone would ask me to do something that was on the borderline, more than likely I’d say, ‘OK, let’s go.’ Now, I think I see the bigger picture finally. …I think I need to mature and understand what I say before I say it, and what I do before I do it."

He can make it sound so sincere, but the con never ends. J.R. Smith was raised in a suburban, middle-class home with two good parents and access to an excellent education. He had a tremendous high school coaching mentor – Dan Hurley at St. Benedict's Prep in Newark, N.J. – and he has long been taught the difference of right and wrong. Smith's always loved to play the part of a tough city kid, but truth be told, he's a soft, spoiled suburban jump-shooter.

And when Smith's benching ends with these Knicks, there will be no epiphanies. No revelations. Everyone knows how this story ends with him, how the money will dry up and how he'll wish he had done everything so differently in his career. It is sad and predictable and on a collision course with cliche.

Someday, Smith will make that call to room service – insisting upon more of everything – and there will be no one to answer. J.R. Smith is 28-years old, and it is too late to threaten and punish a spoiled, suburban kid. No trade, no epiphanies, no changes. The Knicks deserve J.R. Smith, and he'll belong to them until the bitter end.

Allanfan20 @ 1/10/2014 9:47 AM
There were people on this board, on their hands and knees, BEGGING the Knicks to sign this child. Absolutely begging. Some of those same people begged just as hard to re-sign him this past offseason. I feel those people shouldn't be taken serious when it comes to them giving their basketball opinion.
StarksEwing1 @ 1/10/2014 9:50 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:There were people on this board, on their hands and knees, BEGGING the Knicks to sign this child. Absolutely begging. Some of those same people begged just as hard to re-sign him this past offseason. I feel those people shouldn't be taken serious when it comes to them giving their basketball opinion.
Exactly. I was saying from Day 1 that giving JR a multi year commitment is crazy and it looks like taht was accurate. I'd rather see Hardaway JR get his minutes
fishmike @ 1/10/2014 9:51 AM
thank god it was only a 3 year deal
nyk4ever @ 1/10/2014 9:52 AM
damn wojo went in on him lol. that was pure hatred
SupremeCommander @ 1/10/2014 9:55 AM
I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act
Allanfan20 @ 1/10/2014 10:00 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act

There are plenty of people who are tough but from the suburban neighborhoods. That is irrelevant IMO. He is not one of those tough people though.

misterearl @ 1/10/2014 10:01 AM
How many wise men wanted to sign Chris Copeland over JR Smith?

Show The Answer Man the documents

SupremeCommander @ 1/10/2014 10:03 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act

There are plenty of people who are tough but from the suburban neighborhoods. That is irrelevant IMO. He is not one of those tough people though.

oh I agree but he certainly isn't a tough guy who's had to fight for what he's got. The way he acts you'd think he's from the Newark projects. I grew up in the suburbs and knew tough guys and new guys who wanted everyone to think they were tough. JR is in the latter category and frankly I don't have respect for anyone in that group

StarksEwing1 @ 1/10/2014 10:03 AM
misterearl wrote:How many wise men wanted to sign Chris Copeland over JR Smith?

Show The Answer Man the documents

I definetly didnt want to sign JR unless he accepted a 1 yr 2.5 million dollar deal. Copeland was one of my favorites but he is definetly struggling this year with Indy
Vmart @ 1/10/2014 10:05 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act

In the NBA it is very easy to replace 18 points per game especially if the player is allowed to jack shots up.

Vmart @ 1/10/2014 10:09 AM
misterearl wrote:How many wise men wanted to sign Chris Copeland over JR Smith?

Show The Answer Man the documents

Answer man was fooled by JR Smith. JR has been know to pray on others foolishness and has been rewarded handsomely for it. I for one wanted Cope over JR.

Bonn1997 @ 1/10/2014 10:11 AM
misterearl wrote:How many wise men wanted to sign Chris Copeland over JR Smith?

Show The Answer Man the documents


The two had nothing to do with each other. We couldn't have used the JR money to sign Copeland
SupremeCommander @ 1/10/2014 10:13 AM
Vmart wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act

In the NBA it is very easy to replace 18 points per game especially if the player is allowed to jack shots up.

he went cold in the playoffs after throwing an elbow, and the Knicks really struggled to replace that production. It may be the easiest thing to replace but he essentially was the second unit last year

Allanfan20 @ 1/10/2014 10:17 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I was for resigning him in the offseason because I thought it would be impossible to replace his production, given our cap situation. Whoops. The guy - as an individual - sucks. I never really concerned him as someone from the burbs and now I hate him more because of his faux tough guy act

There are plenty of people who are tough but from the suburban neighborhoods. That is irrelevant IMO. He is not one of those tough people though.

oh I agree but he certainly isn't a tough guy who's had to fight for what he's got. The way he acts you'd think he's from the Newark projects. I grew up in the suburbs and knew tough guys and new guys who wanted everyone to think they were tough. JR is in the latter category and frankly I don't have respect for anyone in that group

I don't really respect that either. Tough people don't need to put it on display for everyone to see. I consider Iman Shumpert, Amar'e Stoudemire and even Melo to be tough.

Cartman718 @ 1/10/2014 10:22 AM
The Knicks deserve J.R. Smith, and he'll belong to them until the bitter end.

WOW... really wojo? sounds like he needs help.

Allanfan20 @ 1/10/2014 10:24 AM
Cartman718 wrote:The Knicks deserve J.R. Smith, and he'll belong to them until the bitter end.

WOW... really wojo? sounds like he needs help.

They signed him to a contract despite the red flags. It's sadly true.

StarksEwing1 @ 1/10/2014 10:26 AM
Cartman718 wrote:The Knicks deserve J.R. Smith, and he'll belong to them until the bitter end.

WOW... really wojo? sounds like he needs help.
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I do agree with him a little. The Knicks never seem to learn their lesson when it comes to these type of players. The Knicks need to look at The spurs or OKC as a model of how to build a long running competitive team
Cartman718 @ 1/10/2014 10:28 AM
I disagree with both of you. For less than half these antics, zbo and nate were traded from the knicks and not offered any multi year deals.
Vmart @ 1/10/2014 10:34 AM
You want players that are deeply passionate about basketball. JR just doesn't come off as being passionate and being a 24-7 basketball type of person. He doesn't understand what the title of the job is PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER.
Allanfan20 @ 1/10/2014 10:36 AM
Different cases. Before he was offered the contract, Smith was figuratively screaming "I am a f' up!!! I will f' you over!!!" Just as he did in both of the times he was in the playoffs with us. Yet... We ignored all of the so called red flags and signed him anyway. Now people are surprised by his antics? Give me a flippin' break.
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