So yeah, the Knicks didn't just lose. They extended the game until they were as exhausted, beat up, and humiliated as possible, and only THEN did they lose. This is basketball hell, like 40yearsinthedesert said. 27 more games.
- Seth Rosenthal
2015 cannot get here fast enough
Dolan has no plan. Steve Mills and Allan Houston are on the golf course. Herb Williams just shakes his head. Darrell Walker is polishing his resume.
Melo must REALLY want to be in New York.
Bonn1997@ 2/22/2014 8:22 AM
Welcome? It's been over a decade
VCoug@ 2/22/2014 8:35 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Welcome? It's been over a decade
Seriously. Where does everyone think we've been since JVG quit?
gunsnewing@ 2/22/2014 11:11 AM
Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
Nalod@ 2/22/2014 11:14 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
We keep changing coaches and what happens?
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 11:32 AM
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
We keep changing coaches and what happens?
I think getting rid of Grunwald has a lot to do with Woodson's struggles.
gunsnewing@ 2/22/2014 11:39 AM
Make that 16yrs. Because we don't have a chance til 2015-16
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 12:32 PM
Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 25s The last guy really in charge was Jeff Van Gundy and people - who are still at MSG - hated him, his power & apparently winning as well.
smackeddog@ 2/22/2014 12:35 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Welcome? It's been over a decade
And we have exactly the same team for next season too! hurrah!
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 12:36 PM
Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 3h Those same MSG people, who can give survival lessons, also had no use for Tom Thibodeau, Steve Clifford & Patrick Ewing. I sense a trend.
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 12:37 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Welcome? It's been over a decade
And we have exactly the same team for next season too! hurrah!
Really hope the knicks find and sign a gem either from the group of buyout guys, guys coming back from china or someone from the dleague. If the buyouts turn into one good young player they make sense.
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 12:38 PM
Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 3h Those same MSG people, who can give survival lessons, also had no use for Tom Thibodeau, Steve Clifford & Patrick Ewing. I sense a trend.
Dagger@ 2/22/2014 12:39 PM
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
We keep changing coaches and what happens?
If you're still defending Woodson I don't know what could possibly convince you to lose faith in any coach. He's done everything wrong that could be done wrong. The players hate him, he's the reason MWP and Beno are being waived. The guy admitted he "wasn't aware" of the 2 for 1 situations in last nights game. An NBA coach "wasn't aware" of a 2 for 1... That is beyond ridiculous. It's not a question of whether or not Woodson is a bad coach, he IS terrible. There's no debate and hasn't been for quite a while. Anyone that doesn't see he is one of the main problems with this team wouldn't complain even if a retarded monkey coached this team. Oh wait, monkeys can't communicate with people in English, so I guess he's got Woodson beat there.
BRIGGS@ 2/22/2014 12:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 3h Those same MSG people, who can give survival lessons, also had no use for Tom Thibodeau, Steve Clifford & Patrick Ewing. I sense a trend.
What is worse---when I read an article saying that M Jordan is haunting the knicks again for the 8th seed. the NY Knicks DO NOT deserve to be talked about w the playoffs--they have not earned it. A playoff team with more than enough roster to won does not lose to the Bucks kings and Magic in 2 weeks.
smackeddog@ 2/22/2014 12:42 PM
Udrih, who wants to coach someday in either the NBA or Europe, was asked what he thinks of the Knicks’ coaching this season. “No comment,’’ he said.
Ha!
arkrud@ 2/22/2014 12:42 PM
You get to hell for the reason. This organization committed so many bbal sins that bbal gods have no choice but put team in hell. Now instead of preying for forgiveness Jimmy and Co are running this hell. The hell is home for them... not so for the fans.
smackeddog@ 2/22/2014 12:43 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 25s The last guy really in charge was Jeff Van Gundy and people - who are still at MSG - hated him, his power & apparently winning as well.
We're not even a basketball team, we are the James Dolan Vanity Project
H1AND1@ 2/22/2014 2:44 PM
smackeddog wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 25s The last guy really in charge was Jeff Van Gundy and people - who are still at MSG - hated him, his power & apparently winning as well.
We're not even a basketball team, we are the James Dolan Vanity Project
More like James Dolan's Gimp. You know, like the leather clad, ball gagged kidnap victim who he keeps locked in a steamer trunk in his office to take out to abuse and humiliate at his leisure.
dk7th@ 2/22/2014 3:24 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 25s The last guy really in charge was Jeff Van Gundy and people - who are still at MSG - hated him, his power & apparently winning as well.
We're not even a basketball team, we are the James Dolan Vanity Project
More like James Dolan's Gimp. You know, like the leather clad, ball gagged kidnap victim who he keeps locked in a steamer trunk in his office to take out to abuse and humiliate at his leisure.
he is an abusive person. a malignant narcissist is someone who exists to destroy and harm-- doesn't matter whether intentionally or unintentionally, consciously or unconsciously.
"not a model of good management."
the league rapped his knuckles, and the next thing is walsh is hired. and while he was here there was semblance of order. now all there is is chaos.
Nalod@ 2/22/2014 3:31 PM
Dagger wrote:
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
We keep changing coaches and what happens?
If you're still defending Woodson I don't know what could possibly convince you to lose faith in any coach. He's done everything wrong that could be done wrong. The players hate him, he's the reason MWP and Beno are being waived. The guy admitted he "wasn't aware" of the 2 for 1 situations in last nights game. An NBA coach "wasn't aware" of a 2 for 1... That is beyond ridiculous. It's not a question of whether or not Woodson is a bad coach, he IS terrible. There's no debate and hasn't been for quite a while. Anyone that doesn't see he is one of the main problems with this team wouldn't complain even if a retarded monkey coached this team. Oh wait, monkeys can't communicate with people in English, so I guess he's got Woodson beat there.
Sorry, coach's make mistakes. Woodson is just playing it out to get his money. I don't blame him. They'll want a new coach next year.
Thats my take. I think we keep blaming coach's when the roster don't add up is silly.
I am long on record that the process to make decisions is awful.
Fans don't get it, we yell and get pissy when Barkley and ESPN pisses on us. Problem is not the media, its management.
Fire the coach, bring in another, then fire him.
Rinse, lather, repeat....
CrushAlot@ 2/22/2014 3:39 PM
Nalod wrote:
Dagger wrote:
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yep. 1999 the last time we had a chance
15yrs ago
Not 5
15!!!!
We keep changing coaches and what happens?
If you're still defending Woodson I don't know what could possibly convince you to lose faith in any coach. He's done everything wrong that could be done wrong. The players hate him, he's the reason MWP and Beno are being waived. The guy admitted he "wasn't aware" of the 2 for 1 situations in last nights game. An NBA coach "wasn't aware" of a 2 for 1... That is beyond ridiculous. It's not a question of whether or not Woodson is a bad coach, he IS terrible. There's no debate and hasn't been for quite a while. Anyone that doesn't see he is one of the main problems with this team wouldn't complain even if a retarded monkey coached this team. Oh wait, monkeys can't communicate with people in English, so I guess he's got Woodson beat there.
Sorry, coach's make mistakes. Woodson is just playing it out to get his money. I don't blame him. They'll want a new coach next year.
Thats my take. I think we keep blaming coach's when the roster don't add up is silly.
I am long on record that the process to make decisions is awful.
Fans don't get it, we yell and get pissy when Barkley and ESPN pisses on us. Problem is not the media, its management.
Fire the coach, bring in another, then fire him.
Rinse, lather, repeat....
Woodson's goose was cooked when Grunwald was canned. He couldn't decide who made his roster, who could start, who could play how many minutes and when. I think he may have been forced into the big line up as well. Hopefully a new gm and a new coach come in that are on the same page. Shump pushing Woodson would not have been tolerated by Woodson/Grunwald. Shump probably wouldn't have done it back when Woodson had juice.
