2 vs. 12 must suck for Tyson and Melo.
I honestly stop watching any cheat games because of the way they are called. It looks like a wwe match out there that is how bad the calls are
I have come to the point where I don't car if Melo leaves. We will stink no matter what until at least 2015. I just don't want him to go to the Heat. I can't stomach those guys getting anymore championships handed to them.
OasisBU wrote:Woodson is a joke. Get a good coach and I bet we win some games. This team has given up.
I don't see Melo staying, I think he leaves.
Hard to say. Woodson was fine last year when the team won 54. This year he lost his gm and his authority/control in all aspects was taken from him. The team never overcame the meddling that started the night before training camp. Not many coaches can be successful when they are told who makes their team, who starts, who can play when and how many minutes. J V G, S V G, Thibs etc. wouldn't be effective if they didnt have control of their team in regards to who gets cut who sits who starts who plays when and how many minutes. Woodson needs to go because he was emasculated by new management/ownership. However, the Knicks should just hire herb if the meddling is going to continue.
CrushAlot wrote:OasisBU wrote:Woodson is a joke. Get a good coach and I bet we win some games. This team has given up.
I don't see Melo staying, I think he leaves.
Hard to say. Woodson was fine last year when the team won 54. This year he lost his gm and his authority/control in all aspects was taken from him. The team never overcame the meddling that started the night before training camp. Not many coaches can be successful when they are told who makes their team, who starts, who can play when and how many minutes. J V G, S V G, Thibs etc. wouldn't be effective if they didnt have control of their team in regards to who gets cut who sits who starts who plays when and how many minutes. Woodson needs to go because he was emasculated by new management/ownership. However, the Knicks should just hire herb if the meddling is going to continue.
Kidd is why Woody did not look this bad last year(During the Season). Woody showed his true colors during the playoffs.
CrushAlot wrote:OasisBU wrote:Woodson is a joke. Get a good coach and I bet we win some games. This team has given up.
I don't see Melo staying, I think he leaves.
Hard to say. Woodson was fine last year when the team won 54. This year he lost his gm and his authority/control in all aspects was taken from him. The team never overcame the meddling that started the night before training camp. Not many coaches can be successful when they are told who makes their team, who starts, who can play when and how many minutes. J V G, S V G, Thibs etc. wouldn't be effective if they didnt have control of their team in regards to who gets cut who sits who starts who plays when and how many minutes. Woodson needs to go because he was emasculated by new management/ownership. However, the Knicks should just hire herb if the meddling is going to continue.
You don't know that though, it's all speculation. What we do know is what we see on the court, which are poor coaching decisions such as overplaying your starters in blowout games, mismanaging and even admitting that you are oblivious to late-gane situational tactics (2 for 1 anyone?), poor rotations in response to the flow of the game, inability to orchestrate a somewhat effective defense, not knowing when and how to use timeouts, throwing players under the bus. Woodson sucks, and all the coaches you listed would absolutely do better. Dolan is not an easy man to work for, but as an employee you can't just write off all your failures, failures that are based on your ignorance of fundamental knowledge relevant to your position, and then turn around and say 'well I have a mean boss so....."
Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:OasisBU wrote:Woodson is a joke. Get a good coach and I bet we win some games. This team has given up.
I don't see Melo staying, I think he leaves.
Hard to say. Woodson was fine last year when the team won 54. This year he lost his gm and his authority/control in all aspects was taken from him. The team never overcame the meddling that started the night before training camp. Not many coaches can be successful when they are told who makes their team, who starts, who can play when and how many minutes. J V G, S V G, Thibs etc. wouldn't be effective if they didnt have control of their team in regards to who gets cut who sits who starts who plays when and how many minutes. Woodson needs to go because he was emasculated by new management/ownership. However, the Knicks should just hire herb if the meddling is going to continue.
Kidd is why Woody did not look this bad last year(During the Season). Woody showed his true colors during the playoffs.
He didnt look bad for 18-6 either. The constant was grunwald and autonomy. He lost any authority he had. He can't get it back so he needs to go but the situation he is in was created by management/ownership.
Way too much speculation and way too much credit given to grunwald or Mills.
you got others involved in player personel like Hughes, Winkydink, and Gabriel.
Every time a game ends bad the "fire Woodson, fire mills" is just emotional fan spewing emotion.
Then the next poster thinks they all in the know.
Same thinking Melo leaves after every loss.
Don't matter what we think BTW, and we not allowed a peak into MSG thinking.
You def wont win many games with your starting backcourt scoring just 3 points. All Miami and most teams are doing is attacking the rim, they will score easily or surely get fouled.
i don't think you have to blame just one; i think the roster, the management, and the coach are all below average.
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Mike Woodson Can't Shoot
Raymond Felton, playing in his first game since being charged with a pair of gun-related felonies, went 1 of 7 from the field and scored 2 points in 31 minutes. Tim Hardaway Jr., who grew up in Miami, had his own struggles, shooting 2 of 15.
“You’re not going to beat a championship team shooting it like that,” Woodson said.
Well, like the papers say, Ray isn't a distraction. Offensively or Defensively. Hopefully, he isn't a Knick next season, either.
Only saw the highlights, but does it look like Tyson Chandler spends lots of time watching people dunk and not caring?
Please foul out. Just once.
jrodmc wrote:Well, like the papers say, Ray isn't a distraction. Offensively or Defensively. Hopefully, he isn't a Knick next season, either. Only saw the highlights, but does it look like Tyson Chandler spends lots of time watching people dunk and not caring?
Please foul out. Just once.
Knicks got spanked, made a nice run before half, kept it close for a bit then Mia exploded in the 3rd and never looked back. Melo got his, but failed to get the guards to shoot well. Melo let Hardway get used by Wade. He let Felton and Prigs get constantly beat off the dribble. He didnt teach Amare how to be dominant again, and he STILL HASNT taught Tyson a freakin jump shot. So the usual...
How much cap space will the Heat have?
Gamepicker for tonights game
Win: 4.8%
Loss: 95.2%
SERIOUSLY....4.8% of you are still delusional
fishmike wrote:jrodmc wrote:Well, like the papers say, Ray isn't a distraction. Offensively or Defensively. Hopefully, he isn't a Knick next season, either. Only saw the highlights, but does it look like Tyson Chandler spends lots of time watching people dunk and not caring?
Please foul out. Just once.
Knicks got spanked, made a nice run before half, kept it close for a bit then Mia exploded in the 3rd and never looked back. Melo got his, but failed to get the guards to shoot well. Melo let Hardway get used by Wade. He let Felton and Prigs get constantly beat off the dribble. He didnt teach Amare how to be dominant again, and he STILL HASNT taught Tyson a freakin jump shot. So the usual...
I like how he taught Tyson to preen after every dunk though. And pushing his own backcourt players around after they get torched while he watches. I'm sure Melo gave him pointers on how to properly admire people like Ray Allen as they drive by.
I'm sure things will turn around once Melo also gets Woody to understand how to use his bench better, changes the cap space mess that he alone created, gives enough money back to the franchise to make up for forcing the 28-26 team that was going to build a dynasty here with the assets and cap space we gave away for a douche who can only score, rebound and block a few shots. Only 4 assists. what a fuhuckin loser.
Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:OasisBU wrote:Woodson is a joke. Get a good coach and I bet we win some games. This team has given up.
I don't see Melo staying, I think he leaves.
Hard to say. Woodson was fine last year when the team won 54. This year he lost his gm and his authority/control in all aspects was taken from him. The team never overcame the meddling that started the night before training camp. Not many coaches can be successful when they are told who makes their team, who starts, who can play when and how many minutes. J V G, S V G, Thibs etc. wouldn't be effective if they didnt have control of their team in regards to who gets cut who sits who starts who plays when and how many minutes. Woodson needs to go because he was emasculated by new management/ownership. However, the Knicks should just hire herb if the meddling is going to continue.
Kidd is why Woody did not look this bad last year(During the Season). Woody showed his true colors during the playoffs.
well if kidd was that big of a difference to cause an almost 25 game swing then maybe we should have offered him a max deal..
This team goes as the PG goes. We have crappy PGs this year therefore we have a crappy year.
WTF?
Muchas Gracias
NYKBocker wrote:This team goes as the PG goes. We have crappy PGs this year therefore we have a crappy year.
Exactamundo!
NYKBocker wrote:This team goes as the PG goes. We have crappy PGs this year therefore we have a crappy year.
So, in a backwards Knick's universe, you start and play both of your crappy PG's at the same time?