wiggins stock freefallin'
The South, what a brutal bracket..Who the hell had 11Dayton vs. 10Stanford??..Give that guy the billion..
mreinman wrote:wiggins stock freefallin'
I don't think so. But the #1 pick is definitely at risk.
Early kinda reminding mebofbJohn Wallace during Final Four years run with Syracuse. Tough matchup at the college level.
Freshman Julius Rankle of KU looking like the next ZeBo..averaging 15 pts 11 boards..A lefty..Dude was born in 1994..I started working on my pot belly in '94..
mreinman wrote:wiggins stock freefallin'
Remember Wiggins and Parker are freshmen--theyll get much better physically and in game--they are both top 3-5 picks. I would take Embiid first IF nothing wrong with his back. Also many really good players--you can see a few in the tourney that have not had as a high as draft stock as maybe they should.
BRIGGS wrote:mreinman wrote:wiggins stock freefallin'
Remember Wiggins and Parker are freshmen--theyll get much better physically and in game--they are both top 3-5 picks. I would take Embiid first IF nothing wrong with his back. Also many really good players--you can see a few in the tourney that have not had as a high as draft stock as maybe they should.
You certainly know better than me when it comes to college player's stock and I don't watch too much college bball and from what I saw, wiggins came up tiny. I really wish these guys were forced to stay in school and learn the game better.
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mreinman wrote:wiggins stock freefallin'
Remember Wiggins and Parker are freshmen--theyll get much better physically and in game--they are both top 3-5 picks. I would take Embiid first IF nothing wrong with his back. Also many really good players--you can see a few in the tourney that have not had as a high as draft stock as maybe they should.
You certainly know better than me when it comes to college player's stock and I don't watch too much college bball and from what I saw, wiggins came up tiny. I really wish these guys were forced to stay in school and learn the game better.
You're right kids should stay in school if they can for as long as they can. This will be the best senior laden draft in long time. Many man talented kids will go undrafted There will be opportunity for the knicks to improve their team this year even if we don't acquire a pick
Ideally if it was up to me, these would be the rules in regards to going pro
- either have the option of going pro or going to college for 3 years
- when i say pro i mean the DLeagues until age 20 (2 yrs out). have them learn the game, earn a living (for $30,000) while riding buses in Iowa and Arkansas (just like the minors in baseball)
- only 5 kids will be selected to go straight from HS to NBA. the teams will make a vote
- reward college graduates by giving them a higher salary if they graduate college (like in the army u get paid more and a higher ranking)
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mreinman wrote:wiggins stock freefallin'
Remember Wiggins and Parker are freshmen--theyll get much better physically and in game--they are both top 3-5 picks. I would take Embiid first IF nothing wrong with his back. Also many really good players--you can see a few in the tourney that have not had as a high as draft stock as maybe they should.
You certainly know better than me when it comes to college player's stock and I don't watch too much college bball and from what I saw, wiggins came up tiny. I really wish these guys were forced to stay in school and learn the game better.
The kids should go to the d-league or right to the NBA. The college game isn't an effective minor league system for the NBA.
the college game WAS a good minor league system when kids stayed 2-3 yrs. however i dont think its my right to FORCE them to go to college
Kentucky is loaded and has the most talented team in the tournament. Inexperience and trying to get them to play as a team caused them to be inconsistent throughout the year, but it seems as if they are gelling at the right time. I fully believe they can reach the final four this year.....
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I think our chances are very good, especially playing UCLA,” Noah says. “The laws of the jungle—Gators can’t lose to no Bruins. And if you know your history a little bit, you know that we’ve been known to whoop
some Bruin ass.”
I'm leaving in 15 minutes for MSG--anyone else going? I'm going down early with my friend to get a bite--its a schlep from Madison but worth it. I bought a strip and if Uconn doesnt win--if anyone wants the second day tix--leave your name here.
Kentucky pulls ahead late and took that game right away from Louisville. Felt like Louisville was ahead 3-5 pts or more most of the way. Pretty big upset. Wow.
It's the type of game that may cement Russ Smith to go late in the draft, perhaps even go undrafted. Think he had 23 on 9-20 from the field overall with is good but other things will continue to give people pause -- only 1-7 from 3, 4-10 at the FT line, only 3 assists and 1 steal ----> critics are gonna say he still can't shoot the ball, he's still not a PG, can't play good defense, is too small, etc. Baloney. I don't buy any of that. I think he really showed good development and maturity this year. I think he improved in all these areas tenfold. One game isn't gonna change that for me. I'm with Briggs on this kid --- if he's there late and we can snag a deep pick for a modest amount of cash, with our questions at PG, I'd take a chance here. And if he goes undrafted, we need to be first on line to sign him up for Vegas summer ball and training camp...Hopefully Phil's got his eye on this kid.
I think Smith's got a smooth game, more than just a scorer (which is the constant with him and a plus--I've always looked at scoring points as a bonus). He's got a solid, shifty handle & is actually a very good passer with pretty good court vision -- finds open men with regularity and delivers crisp, on-the-money passes time after time. He improved his 3-pt shooting to around the 40% mark this year and contrary to what I've read, he plays good defense, ball-hawking his man full court at times. All Rick Pitino-coached guards do. That's Rick's way and it's a good one that will only serve his players well at the next level. Tell ya right now -- Russ Smith, legit PG or not, is a hell of a lot better than anything we have at the point right now.
On a smaller scale, I really like this Luke Hancock too. Here's another guy that probably goes undrafted, almost a foregone conclusion, but this kid can ball man. 6'6" SG/SF with maturity, a high IQ and an underrated game. 2 years in a row now he's shown up and played huge in real big games for Lousiville...People are gonna say he's not NBA material and that may be true but I'd like to see him get a shot somewhere. Ask yourselves -- is a guy like Landry Fields that much better than Hancock? I don't think so...I see a real nice glue guy here potentially.. Wouldn't surprise me if he latched on somewhere in the NBA. Also wouldn't surprise me if he improved his jumper even further and became a real marksman eventually. Another guy to keep in mind for SL..
as bad as landry is...hes way more athletic than hancock. that shows you how tough it is to make it in the NBA
i think hancock is a nice college player that will play well over seas
russ smith is 2 erratic for my liking. the best pro prospect on louisville is harrell. and hes not even that great. a 6-6 faried clone
kentucky has lots of pro prospects starting with randle of course. but any 7fter that can defend and rebound has a chance in the nba...that includes cauley-stein and dakari johnson. im not sold on the harrison twins or young. but all these players will declare for the nba anyways
Finestrg wrote:Kentucky pulls ahead late and took that game right away from Louisville. Felt like Louisville was ahead 3-5 pts or more most of the way. Pretty big upset. Wow.It's the type of game that may cement Russ Smith to go late in the draft, perhaps even go undrafted. Think he had 23 on 9-20 from the field overall with is good but other things will continue to give people pause -- only 1-7 from 3, 4-10 at the FT line, only 3 assists and 1 steal ----> critics are gonna say he still can't shoot the ball, he's still not a PG, can't play good defense, is too small, etc. Baloney. I don't buy any of that. I think he really showed good development and maturity this year. I think he improved in all these areas tenfold. One game isn't gonna change that for me. I'm with Briggs on this kid --- if he's there late and we can snag a deep pick for a modest amount of cash, with our questions at PG, I'd take a chance here. And if he goes undrafted, we need to be first on line to sign him up for Vegas summer ball and training camp...Hopefully Phil's got his eye on this kid.
I think Smith's got a smooth game, more than just a scorer (which is the constant with him and a plus--I've always looked at scoring points as a bonus). He's got a solid, shifty handle & is actually a very good passer with pretty good court vision -- finds open men with regularity and delivers crisp, on-the-money passes time after time. He improved his 3-pt shooting to around the 40% mark this year and contrary to what I've read, he plays good defense, ball-hawking his man full court at times. All Rick Pitino-coached guards do. That's Rick's way and it's a good one that will only serve his players well at the next level. Tell ya right now -- Russ Smith, legit PG or not, is a hell of a lot better than anything we have at the point right now.
On a smaller scale, I really like this Luke Hancock too. Here's another guy that probably goes undrafted, almost a foregone conclusion, but this kid can ball man. 6'6" SG/SF with maturity, a high IQ and an underrated game. 2 years in a row now he's shown up and played huge in real big games for Lousiville...People are gonna say he's not NBA material and that may be true but I'd like to see him get a shot somewhere. Ask yourselves -- is a guy like Landry Fields that much better than Hancock? I don't think so...I see a real nice glue guy here potentially.. Wouldn't surprise me if he latched on somewhere in the NBA. Also wouldn't surprise me if he improved his jumper even further and became a real marksman eventually. Another guy to keep in mind for SL..
Russ reminds me a little Gilbert Arenas when he was in college, but I could also see him crapping out of the league after two season. Russ's fate depends on the team he lands on. He shot 39 percent from three this season, so you can't read too much into his percentages during the Kentucky game. The dude can score. The question heading in to the draft is whether or not he learns to run a team a decent level.
