Knicks · The 2013-2014 New York Knicks All Hate thread (page 1)

smackeddog @ 3/29/2014 6:48 AM
I hate this team so much. I went through a stretch in the middle of the season when I was just indifferent, but for some reason I've grown to despise them these past few games.

I think I hate Tyson Chandler's play the most, as he clearly quit very early in the season- hardly even tries defensively anymore. I suppose he got fed up up of trying to cover for the rest of the team who also don't play defense, and also with Woody's ridiculous anti-defense scheme of switching on everything, to ensure our PG is covering their center, and our center is covering their PG, or better yet, when one of our players switch but the other player is oblivious to this and so we leave opposing players wide open. This is the perfect zenith of terrible defensive scheme matched by terrible execution and effort.

Watching Raymond Felton compete against opposing point guards is like watching a chubby kid being bullied at school everyday. Taking his lunch money, getting atomic wedges- it's painful to watch.

Has Shumpert done anything other than look surly and brick shots all season?

Woody seems like a likeable guy, but he has done such an abysmal job this season, that I've grown to loath him despite the fact on a rational level I know he was set up to fail and nearly all his players are awful. He's become D'Antoni esq in terms of stubborn refusal to alter anything despite the fact it isn't working.

Looking forward to hopefully seeing most of them gone this offseason- if they're all back then I will simply take comfort in the fact that we have our pick and so we'll actually be rewarded for watching these no-heart chumps. Realistically, Tyson is the most moveable- I don't think he's aged, I think he just doesn't bother trying- he's exactly as he was with the Bobcats. Watch him magically revive his career once he's traded. Bargs will be entering a contract year so hopefully that motivates him to pretend that he cares so we can shift him for a second rounder or something at the trade deadline.

So who do you dislike the most? What has annoyed you the most this season?

blkexec @ 3/29/2014 7:43 AM
1. Ownership
2. Ny media
3. Fans

Dolan put us in the position.....due to ny media pressure and impatient fans looking for a quick fix every year. Instead of tanking like the spurs did or what Philly is doing.

Nalod @ 3/29/2014 11:15 AM
Larry
MDA
Woodson

Stubborn men who don't listen to fans.

franco12 @ 3/29/2014 11:32 AM
The only explanation for us switching is our guys can't fight over screens, etc...

Why not play zone? Are they that dumb collectively?

Isn't that what HS and college teams do when confronted by superior talent/athletes?

Also, a big HATE for a team that can NEVER score out of a time out! Even the Isiah Knicks could pull that one off.

I truly hate ownership- not firing the coach was not patience, it was inaction.

I hate that I will be 45 this year, and normal people confront their mortality seeing friends, parents pass, etc. But I feel pretty strongly that I am unlikely to see a championship within my lifetime.

CrushAlot @ 3/29/2014 3:19 PM
I agree about Tyson. Reasons for hating him would also include last years performance against the pacers and then his trashing his team and coach without taking responsibility for his horrible play that was a big part of why the knicks lost. I am also not a fan of his frequent absences, flu, personal reasons etc. Also, I have no desire to speculate on why a guy that makes 15 mil and only plays 2/3 of a season quit on his team other than it is a sign of no character.
Both Shump and JR present as real low bball I q guys at times and I never would have thought that both would have such a decline in their play.
I think Felton is what he is. Just not good enough at this point. In a perfect world the Knicks trade Tyson and Shump and get a point and two guard that are starting caliber players.
IronWillGiroud @ 3/29/2014 4:47 PM
Be easy my dudes,

we played really well to end the year maybe

VCoug @ 3/29/2014 5:35 PM
I was trying to find the video of Player Haters' Ball from Chapelle's Show but can't. But, for some reason this was in the search results:

smackeddog @ 3/29/2014 6:45 PM
Cartman718 @ 3/29/2014 7:55 PM
can we fire fatton, woody and hire jkidd as coach??
JamesLin @ 3/30/2014 8:50 PM
Just Jimmy Dol..everyone else is just irritating.. including us fans.. sometimes I hate my choice back when I was 4 years old
mreinman @ 3/31/2014 12:22 AM
smackeddog wrote:I hate this team so much. I went through a stretch in the middle of the season when I was just indifferent, but for some reason I've grown to despise them these past few games.

I think I hate Tyson Chandler's play the most, as he clearly quit very early in the season- hardly even tries defensively anymore. I suppose he got fed up up of trying to cover for the rest of the team who also don't play defense, and also with Woody's ridiculous anti-defense scheme of switching on everything, to ensure our PG is covering their center, and our center is covering their PG, or better yet, when one of our players switch but the other player is oblivious to this and so we leave opposing players wide open. This is the perfect zenith of terrible defensive scheme matched by terrible execution and effort.

Watching Raymond Felton compete against opposing point guards is like watching a chubby kid being bullied at school everyday. Taking his lunch money, getting atomic wedges- it's painful to watch.

Has Shumpert done anything other than look surly and brick shots all season?

Woody seems like a likeable guy, but he has done such an abysmal job this season, that I've grown to loath him despite the fact on a rational level I know he was set up to fail and nearly all his players are awful. He's become D'Antoni esq in terms of stubborn refusal to alter anything despite the fact it isn't working.

Looking forward to hopefully seeing most of them gone this offseason- if they're all back then I will simply take comfort in the fact that we have our pick and so we'll actually be rewarded for watching these no-heart chumps. Realistically, Tyson is the most moveable- I don't think he's aged, I think he just doesn't bother trying- he's exactly as he was with the Bobcats. Watch him magically revive his career once he's traded. Bargs will be entering a contract year so hopefully that motivates him to pretend that he cares so we can shift him for a second rounder or something at the trade deadline.

So who do you dislike the most? What has annoyed you the most this season?

Good post.

Tyson gets under my skin because he thinks he is awesome but does nothing to prove that he is.

jrodmc @ 3/31/2014 10:20 AM
A self-hate thread. Very clinical and healing. Seriously, go outside, stand in the rain, and try breathing through your nose.



Bonn1997 @ 3/31/2014 10:27 AM
jrodmc wrote:A self-hate thread. Very clinical and healing. Seriously, go outside, stand in the rain, and try breathing through your nose.




Interesting interpretation.
Is hating the criticism from fellow Knicks fans a form of self-hate? Maybe even more so than posters here discussing hating losing?
jrodmc @ 3/31/2014 10:34 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:A self-hate thread. Very clinical and healing. Seriously, go outside, stand in the rain, and try breathing through your nose.

Interesting interpretation.
Is hating the criticism from fellow Knicks fans a form of self-hate? Maybe even more so than posters here discussing hating losing?

Is hating hate actually a positive? Can it really be a negative? If you hate your team, do you hate yourself?
If you love hating your own team, does it invalidate the law of non-contradiction?
If you spend post after post defending the rights of haters, does homerism actually represent some sort of genetic defect? Like faith-heads?
Does one only hate because they care so very much?


Lighten up Bonn. I'm going for humor here. It may not be working, but it's got to be more entertaining on a rainy day then reading hate posts.

The team did actually win.

smackeddog @ 3/31/2014 10:48 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:A self-hate thread. Very clinical and healing. Seriously, go outside, stand in the rain, and try breathing through your nose.

Interesting interpretation.
Is hating the criticism from fellow Knicks fans a form of self-hate? Maybe even more so than posters here discussing hating losing?

Is hating hate actually a positive? Can it really be a negative? If you hate your team, do you hate yourself?
If you love hating your own team, does it invalidate the law of non-contradiction?
If you spend post after post defending the rights of haters, does homerism actually represent some sort of genetic defect? Like faith-heads?
Does one only hate because they care so very much?


Lighten up Bonn. I'm going for humor here. It may not be working, but it's got to be more entertaining on a rainy day then reading hate posts.

The team did actually win.

Jrodmc- beneath anger there is hurt, beneath hurt there is love but it's always important to embrace the surface emotion first and express the anger before you can move on from it (a little tip for you there from the world of psychotherapy... And the movie 'funny people')

jrodmc @ 3/31/2014 11:56 AM
smackeddog wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:A self-hate thread. Very clinical and healing. Seriously, go outside, stand in the rain, and try breathing through your nose.

Interesting interpretation.
Is hating the criticism from fellow Knicks fans a form of self-hate? Maybe even more so than posters here discussing hating losing?

Is hating hate actually a positive? Can it really be a negative? If you hate your team, do you hate yourself?
If you love hating your own team, does it invalidate the law of non-contradiction?
If you spend post after post defending the rights of haters, does homerism actually represent some sort of genetic defect? Like faith-heads?
Does one only hate because they care so very much?


Lighten up Bonn. I'm going for humor here. It may not be working, but it's got to be more entertaining on a rainy day then reading hate posts.

The team did actually win.

Jrodmc- beneath anger there is hurt, beneath hurt there is love but it's always important to embrace the surface emotion first and express the anger before you can move on from it (a little tip for you there from the world of psychotherapy... And the movie 'funny people')

As I've mentioned in other threads, the Irish are immune to psychotherapy.

Beneath self-loathing is something really smelly that is possibly filled with pus and I wouldn't really want to look at it. Much less embrace it.

A better tip: Don't bother to rubberneck at accidents. You aren't helping anything and anything you see isn't really all that educational. Keep your eyes on the road and keep driving. Sooner or later, the road will clear and things will be happy again.

1 game back! Beat the Jizz out of the Jazz!
Someone, anyone paging Dr A! We need another win-streak creating game thread!

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