Knicks · One thing that really impresses me about Tyson's game... (page 2)

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smackeddog wrote:What really impresses me about Tyson is he makes these big bluster statements that are the complete opposite of the way he has played- it's like he has no sense of shame! After saying how we just had to fight our way to the playoffs, he had what, 5 points and 4 rebounds last night? I don't hate him, in fact I used to like him, but this season it's been hard not to dislike him...

This. Last spring's quotes after he was annihilated in the Pacers series were pretty bad also. Remember he is the guy that just said it is too late for team meetings and wasn't sure about 'his' future in NY.

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:Is his ability to guard smalls. Everytime I see him get drawn out to the 3 point line because he's guarding a small on a switch I cringe. Then the guy goes into his moves, takes it to the hole and smack Tyson blocks it. I dont think Ive ever seen a big that guards smalls as well as he does.

Wish he could guard bigs.

haha, OK that is funny and I kind of agree that Tyson should be a better defender but I give him a small pass for 1 reason: he has ZERO help from the PF and/or SF positions that should also help in rotating and covering from weak side. Melo/Amare (do Knicks have any other PFs not call KMart?) freakin SUCK at rotating when Tyson leaves his man to cover for our guards.

Think about Gerald Wallace or Sheed back in the day or Ibaka, PFs who help off their man; Knicks don't have that.

I see. But's its not just his rotations. Why is it that a DPOY cannot guard anyone in the post without requiring help/double team. It boggles my mind!

I hate to say this but lately it looks like Amare may be playing even better than Tyson - DID I JUST SAY THAT?

The overall rotations have been better lately.

there are like 2 guys who can really defend good post scorers 1-1. Its just too hard.

Is one of them Bargs?

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:What really impresses me about Tyson is he makes these big bluster statements that are the complete opposite of the way he has played- it's like he has no sense of shame! After saying how we just had to fight our way to the playoffs, he had what, 5 points and 4 rebounds last night? I don't hate him, in fact I used to like him, but this season it's been hard not to dislike him...

This. Last spring's quotes after he was annihilated in the Pacers series were pretty bad also. Remember he is the guy that just said it is too late for team meetings and wasn't sure about 'his' future in NY.

JR and Chandler both fell to the top of my sh!t list after their performances in that Indy series. Great thing about sports is there is always next year... they have a chance to atone. Fingers crossed

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:Is his ability to guard smalls. Everytime I see him get drawn out to the 3 point line because he's guarding a small on a switch I cringe. Then the guy goes into his moves, takes it to the hole and smack Tyson blocks it. I dont think Ive ever seen a big that guards smalls as well as he does.

Wish he could guard bigs.

haha, OK that is funny and I kind of agree that Tyson should be a better defender but I give him a small pass for 1 reason: he has ZERO help from the PF and/or SF positions that should also help in rotating and covering from weak side. Melo/Amare (do Knicks have any other PFs not call KMart?) freakin SUCK at rotating when Tyson leaves his man to cover for our guards.

Think about Gerald Wallace or Sheed back in the day or Ibaka, PFs who help off their man; Knicks don't have that.

I see. But's its not just his rotations. Why is it that a DPOY cannot guard anyone in the post without requiring help/double team. It boggles my mind!

I hate to say this but lately it looks like Amare may be playing even better than Tyson - DID I JUST SAY THAT?

The overall rotations have been better lately.

there are like 2 guys who can really defend good post scorers 1-1. Its just too hard.

Is one of them Bargs?

Bargs is actually a great defender... so long as the guy he's guarding is as slow as he is. Sadly for Bargs, Brian Scalaweenie is out of the league and coaching now, so nobody in the NBA fits that description

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:Is his ability to guard smalls. Everytime I see him get drawn out to the 3 point line because he's guarding a small on a switch I cringe. Then the guy goes into his moves, takes it to the hole and smack Tyson blocks it. I dont think Ive ever seen a big that guards smalls as well as he does.

Wish he could guard bigs.

haha, OK that is funny and I kind of agree that Tyson should be a better defender but I give him a small pass for 1 reason: he has ZERO help from the PF and/or SF positions that should also help in rotating and covering from weak side. Melo/Amare (do Knicks have any other PFs not call KMart?) freakin SUCK at rotating when Tyson leaves his man to cover for our guards.

Think about Gerald Wallace or Sheed back in the day or Ibaka, PFs who help off their man; Knicks don't have that.

I see. But's its not just his rotations. Why is it that a DPOY cannot guard anyone in the post without requiring help/double team. It boggles my mind!

I hate to say this but lately it looks like Amare may be playing even better than Tyson - DID I JUST SAY THAT?

The overall rotations have been better lately.

there are like 2 guys who can really defend good post scorers 1-1. Its just too hard.

Is one of them Bargs?

Bargs is actually a great defender... so long as the guy he's guarding is as slow as he is. Sadly for Bargs, Brian Scalaweenie is out of the league and coaching now, so nobody in the NBA fits that description

But don't you remember - Dwight Howard had a bad game against him!

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:Is his ability to guard smalls. Everytime I see him get drawn out to the 3 point line because he's guarding a small on a switch I cringe. Then the guy goes into his moves, takes it to the hole and smack Tyson blocks it. I dont think Ive ever seen a big that guards smalls as well as he does.

Wish he could guard bigs.

haha, OK that is funny and I kind of agree that Tyson should be a better defender but I give him a small pass for 1 reason: he has ZERO help from the PF and/or SF positions that should also help in rotating and covering from weak side. Melo/Amare (do Knicks have any other PFs not call KMart?) freakin SUCK at rotating when Tyson leaves his man to cover for our guards.

Think about Gerald Wallace or Sheed back in the day or Ibaka, PFs who help off their man; Knicks don't have that.

I see. But's its not just his rotations. Why is it that a DPOY cannot guard anyone in the post without requiring help/double team. It boggles my mind!

I hate to say this but lately it looks like Amare may be playing even better than Tyson - DID I JUST SAY THAT?

The overall rotations have been better lately.

there are like 2 guys who can really defend good post scorers 1-1. Its just too hard.

Is one of them Bargs?

Bargs is actually a great defender... so long as the guy he's guarding is as slow as he is. Sadly for Bargs, Brian Scalaweenie is out of the league and coaching now, so nobody in the NBA fits that description

But don't you remember - Dwight Howard had a bad game against him!

Nah, give credit when deserved, Bargs did a good job against him.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:Is his ability to guard smalls. Everytime I see him get drawn out to the 3 point line because he's guarding a small on a switch I cringe. Then the guy goes into his moves, takes it to the hole and smack Tyson blocks it. I dont think Ive ever seen a big that guards smalls as well as he does.

Wish he could guard bigs.

haha, OK that is funny and I kind of agree that Tyson should be a better defender but I give him a small pass for 1 reason: he has ZERO help from the PF and/or SF positions that should also help in rotating and covering from weak side. Melo/Amare (do Knicks have any other PFs not call KMart?) freakin SUCK at rotating when Tyson leaves his man to cover for our guards.

Think about Gerald Wallace or Sheed back in the day or Ibaka, PFs who help off their man; Knicks don't have that.

I see. But's its not just his rotations. Why is it that a DPOY cannot guard anyone in the post without requiring help/double team. It boggles my mind!

I hate to say this but lately it looks like Amare may be playing even better than Tyson - DID I JUST SAY THAT?

The overall rotations have been better lately.

there are like 2 guys who can really defend good post scorers 1-1. Its just too hard.

Is one of them Bargs?

Bargs is actually a great defender... so long as the guy he's guarding is as slow as he is. Sadly for Bargs, Brian Scalaweenie is out of the league and coaching now, so nobody in the NBA fits that description

But don't you remember - Dwight Howard had a bad game against him!

Nah, give credit when deserved, Bargs did a good job against him.

Actually he did a good job against Tyson's husband, too, if I recall correctly.