Knicks · BYE WOODSON thanks for absolutely nothing (page 7)

Also, it wasn't Dantoni or Melo's fault for that disastrous end. It was all management and Dolan. How the fuck do you have Dantoni as a coach, get Melo and then amnesty the one good pg on your team to get a center who has no business being in his system? And on top of that, you fuck up any chance to get the best pg in the league, something that would have been a match made in heaven (Dantoni, Paul, Anthony).

Again, impatience on the part of the stupid owner, no communication, no thought process into how the pieces will fit..just go go go go go!

Woodson is so dumb/naive he thinks phil is letting him do his thing, thats why they haven't sat down. Are you serious???

knicks1248 wrote:Woodson is so dumb/naive he thinks phil is letting him do his thing, thats why they haven't sat down. Are you serious???

It does have Eucheresque quality to it. On the other hand I'm not expecting him to say "game over man, game over" either.

knicks1248 wrote:Woodson is so dumb/naive he thinks phil is letting him do his thing, thats why they haven't sat down. Are you serious???

I think he's just dumb

If a new boss comes in and no directive to make changes, then he is letting him do his thing!

There was really no time to make changes. About the only thing wouild be if Phil wants to see certain players in certain situations.

What he knows and what he says in MSG is not always whats going on. They are told what to say.

Nalod wrote:
If a new boss comes in and no directive to make changes, then he is letting him do his thing!

There was really no time to make changes. About the only thing wouild be if Phil wants to see certain players in certain situations.

What he knows and what he says in MSG is not always whats going on. They are told what to say.

That would mean phil has no control, and dolan is still calling the shots, which i seriously doubt.

I don't epecxt woodson to say: "I'm not concern with phil, he's not a big part of what were doing in terms of making the playoffs"

But to sit up there almost like your doing a good job and phil is cool with everything your doing, well thats pretty damn stupid, and any moron knows that no cummunication means no one really gives a fck..

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
If a new boss comes in and no directive to make changes, then he is letting him do his thing!

There was really no time to make changes. About the only thing wouild be if Phil wants to see certain players in certain situations.

What he knows and what he says in MSG is not always whats going on. They are told what to say.

That would mean phil has no control, and dolan is still calling the shots, which i seriously doubt.

I don't epecxt woodson to say: "I'm not concern with phil, he's not a big part of what were doing in terms of making the playoffs"

But to sit up there almost like your doing a good job and phil is cool with everything your doing, well thats pretty damn stupid, and any moron knows that no cummunication means no one really gives a fck..

The only thing to read from statements out of MSG is what happens, not what is said. Mike got the nice unified front going on riding out the season. He has his 3.7mil next year so the best thing to do is just tow the company line and say everything is cool!

Woodson knew the gig when he dumped Keith Glass and sold his soul to CAA. HE got paid for his loyalty, not to win games. Dolan is big like that.

Woodson did ok in all this...The organization was in dysfunction from top to bottom and he stayed consistent and kept talking about trying to win..A few people noticed...

gunsnewing wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Woodson is so dumb/naive he thinks phil is letting him do his thing, thats why they haven't sat down. Are you serious???

I think he's just dumb

anybody who thinks woodson isn't dumb.... is dumb.

Is he going to go down as the worse Knick coach ever, because I have be a fan since the 80's and i have not witness a more inept coach..The coaches that did have horrible seasons had horrible rosters..

knicks1248 wrote:We all know that Kidd & Rasheed did most of the coaching last yr, which is why he didn't get COY. Even after winning 54 games and blowing miami out twice during the season, no one had the knicks making the NBA finals or even the ECF.

Woodson has had the most talent since JVG, and this season was a EPIC failure,

you have a better chance getting a Perfect NCAA tourny bracket, then every seeing woodson as a head coach in the NBA.

I can't even begin to describe what a roller coasting nightmare of a season he has put us through..

But yesterday was the last straw in my book, having a big fckng line up and not even using your bigs. Miami had no center at all, and Amare gets 9 touches, but never mind that as every newspaper in NYC has documented that pretty darn clearly.

You played Melo at Center in the washington game for 5 minutes (with a injured shoulder) in the 4th qtr for what fckng reason only he knows..

You have used Amare so bad, that you had most ppl believing he was done as a player. the most effecient player in your line up.

2 FT attemps the entire 2nd half of the miami game, with miami having know centers, and the knicks having damn near the biggest front court in the NBA, but we still jack up 42 fkng 3's as a team..

GTFO here woodson..pleasee

*AMEN! you said it best bra-ther...knicks1248

Woodson going I am going to celebrate with drinks in NYC
Come join ! please

I actually tried to give Woodson a chance. I wrote a thread based on what he said he wanted to do, which was play more old school BB and go inside out with the offense. Then he had injuries to his bigs and he went with Kidd and a spread offense. COOL that's a good move, but it became clear he had nothing else and wasn't the architect of that style. Kidd was. Then on top of that was the poor use of his players that could actually help like playing Copeland more when it was clear he was helping this team. Then this year Woody was lost from the very beginning. He never had a clue how he wanted to use his roster. He clearly BLEW many games with his poor coaching and actually froze on the sidelines many times. He was the luckiest guy in the world in his 1st year cuz the team stepped up and then Melo got hot and he rode that. Then last year he was lucky he had the vets and Kidd around to make him look like he knew what he was doing. He's a horrid coach.

Hahahahahahahahahah

He is nit a coach - he is the couch.

Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

There's really one question I would ask woodson giving the oportunity..

WHY DID YOU CONTINUE TO STICK TO THE SAME GAME PLAN EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T WORKING AT ALL?

smackeddog wrote:Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

what's likable about a coach who plays favorites?

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

what's likable about a coach who plays favorites?

Coaches plays favorites.

Pjax did not play favorites?

Not that I like it, I hate it.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

what's likable about a coach who plays favorites?

Coaches plays favorites.

Pjax did not play favorites?

Not that I like it, I hate it.

i don't know if he does or not. i only know that woodson does and popovich does not.

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

what's likable about a coach who plays favorites?

Coaches plays favorites.

Pjax did not play favorites?

Not that I like it, I hate it.

i don't know if he does or not. i only know that woodson does and popovich does not.

Steven Jackson says he does. I think almost every coach plays favorites. Some just don't do it as often.= or get a pass when they do. However, its no real way of telling. It's all opinions and I'm sure different players will say different things. The same as coaches.

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ha, damned by praise in the exit interview:

Amare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_yor...

Also Woody not part of the exit interviews, only Phil and Mills are. i.e., the Woody era is over. Weird really- he's a likeable person, and he seemed to win a lot of games with a terrible game plan and no ability to adjust. I don't really understand how he won so many games before the first half of this season, and I guess I never will!

what's likable about a coach who plays favorites?

Coaches plays favorites.

Pjax did not play favorites?

Not that I like it, I hate it.

i don't know if he does or not. i only know that woodson does and popovich does not.

Well ... perhaps. But this is not a utopia where we can all draft the classiest act and best PF of all time - Tim Duncan and have him lead our culture.