With him or without him... same sht. Is he a 0 impact player?
New York 33-45
DEnver 33-44
I am not hating on the man. He is a great scorer.
But all things considering - production, making other players better, price, leadership, celeb status...
Is he a net-positive or just like risky stock which never even bit the inflation over 4 years?
I guess you could say it was a wash. But there is still a pick left for Denver. If that pick turns out to be a top three and heavens forbid a number one then the deal turns into a favorable deal for Denver.
Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht.
And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
It's baaaaaaaaaaack! Believe it!
toad wrote:jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
And what was our record for the years before we got CancerMelo? And how many times did Denver miss the playoffs with Melo?
jrodmc wrote:toad wrote:jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
And what was our record for the years before we got CancerMelo? And how many times did Denver miss the playoffs with Melo?
Neither of those questions has anything to do with the Melo trade
jrodmc wrote:toad wrote:jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
And what was our record for the years before we got CancerMelo? And how many times did Denver miss the playoffs with Melo?
Aren't we missing the playoffs with SuperstarMelo? In a conference where 10 under .500 is going to get you in. lol.
Bonn1997 wrote:jrodmc wrote:toad wrote:jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
And what was our record for the years before we got CancerMelo? And how many times did Denver miss the playoffs with Melo?
Neither of those questions has anything to do with the Melo trade
Right. Carmelo Anthony on the Knicks and Denver without Carmelo Anthony has nothing to do with the trade. Check.
jrodmc wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:jrodmc wrote:toad wrote:jrodmc wrote:Yes, definitely, because we were so much better off before Melo got here. Shandon Anderson = Carmelo Anthony...same sht. And for the ten billionth post, the assets we gave up have obviously pushed Denver to the point where 4 years later they are positioned to make a serious run at a chip, right? Or maybe they just plan on making the playoffs someday?
Gallo - IR, ummm, IR, but very, very efficient and economical IR player.
Moz - 2 good highlight games per season; the neverending project player, be patient, it will happen.
Mayor - mostly invisible middle of the road bench player
Draft picks - Iggy and Faried and what else? Of course, the whole plan of ridding Denver of Melo-noma was the 2015 lottery!!!
3 million - Dolan spends that on guitar strings each year.
Cue tkf with the "Denver's in a better spot then we are! I like the way that team is run! The Western Conference is where real NBA basketball is played! Melo couldn't carry Gallo's jockstrap!"
What's our record this year again?
And what was our record for the years before we got CancerMelo? And how many times did Denver miss the playoffs with Melo?
Neither of those questions has anything to do with the Melo trade
Right. Carmelo Anthony on the Knicks and Denver without Carmelo Anthony has nothing to do with the trade. Check.
That's actually correct. Both were before the Melo trade. The question was about how the Melo trade impacted us.
Record wise its a wash. The proof is in the records.
The pick will be very telling.
Was it worth it? Moving right along.............
I think we payed a bit too much. Not that Moz would have tipped the scales, but its just a thought.
Denver got more assets. Shy Wilson and Gallo's injury took them off the court this season.
Bottom line was Melo wanted out and Knicks wanted a bankable face of a franchise.
Nalod said at the time you gotta give it 5 years to see. In two years we'll know.
Melo walks the wash goes away in an instant and we lose. Melo gets Zenitized and knicks contend with him rostered we get favorable.
Denver drafts a player that proves to be a cornerstone (won't know for two years perhaps) then we lose.
BTW, "wash" usually means there was no winner or loser. It looks more like both teams were losers. Melo's a great player at the right price but a bad one at the wrong price. We paid the wrong price. We paid an even worse price for other players, obviously, and that too is part of the losing.
It's amazing. Results are defined as getting out of the "junior varsity" regular season.
Player A is on Team D. Team D makes the playoffs every year.
Team K hasn't smelled the playoffs in nearly a decade.
Player A goes to Team K, Team K is now in the playoffs each year.
How is the trade of Player A a wash for Team K?
Why is this so difficult? Why was Team K suddenly in the playoffs every year? Was it the superb coaching? Brilliant management and ownership? Was it the sudden influx of fabulous talent around Player A? Was it the MSG facade upgrade? Was it part of a league conspiracy in the Eastern conference?
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jrodmc wrote:It's amazing. Results are defined as getting out of the "junior varsity" regular season. Player A is on Team D. Team D makes the playoffs every year.
Team K hasn't smelled the playoffs in nearly a decade.
Player A goes to Team K, Team K is now in the playoffs each year.
How is the trade of Player A a wash for Team K?
Why is this so difficult? Why was Team K suddenly in the playoffs every year? Was it the superb coaching? Brilliant management and ownership? Was it the sudden influx of fabulous talent around Player A? Was it the MSG facade upgrade? Was it part of a league conspiracy in the Eastern conference?
Well now (unlike before) you're at least talking about what happened after the Melo trade. You've at least got the timing correct this time. You're glorifying mediocrity, though. You only have to be roughly a top 20 NBA team to make the playoffs in the east. You can have a player who helps the team but still acquire him in a bad deal if the player doesn't help the team as much as someone you're giving up guys on rookie contracts, future picks, and 40% of your total cap space for should help the team.
jrodmc wrote:It's amazing. Results are defined as getting out of the "junior varsity" regular season. Player A is on Team D. Team D makes the playoffs every year.
Team K hasn't smelled the playoffs in nearly a decade.
Player A goes to Team K, Team K is now in the playoffs each year.
How is the trade of Player A a wash for Team K?
Why is this so difficult? Why was Team K suddenly in the playoffs every year? Was it the superb coaching? Brilliant management and ownership? Was it the sudden influx of fabulous talent around Player A? Was it the MSG facade upgrade? Was it part of a league conspiracy in the Eastern conference?
But without attractive assets Denver does not make a deal with us, so basically its not like Melo "Turned it around" on his own. He was a talent infusion but there was a talant upgrade in progress.
Its hard to quantify Melo alone as the sole reason for our play the last few years. No roster is static so this gets harder and harder.
Bonn1997 wrote:jrodmc wrote:It's amazing. Results are defined as getting out of the "junior varsity" regular season. Player A is on Team D. Team D makes the playoffs every year.
Team K hasn't smelled the playoffs in nearly a decade.
Player A goes to Team K, Team K is now in the playoffs each year.
How is the trade of Player A a wash for Team K?
Why is this so difficult? Why was Team K suddenly in the playoffs every year? Was it the superb coaching? Brilliant management and ownership? Was it the sudden influx of fabulous talent around Player A? Was it the MSG facade upgrade? Was it part of a league conspiracy in the Eastern conference?
Well now (unlike before) you're at least talking about what happened after the Melo trade. You've at least got the timing correct this time. You're glorifying mediocrity, though. You only have to be roughly a top 20 NBA team to make the playoffs in the east. You can have a player who helps the team but still acquire him in a bad deal if the player doesn't help the team as much as someone you're giving up guys on rookie contracts, future picks, and 40% of your total cap space for should help the team.
Not in the playoffs. In the playoffs. I'm not glorifying anything, I'm defining "winning" as "making the playoffs" and "losing" as being in the lottery. It's not really that difficult. Your rookies haven't done anything great, our record with picks is legendarily abominable (Fred Weiss says HI!) and Lebron didn't want our cap space. And KD ain't coming here, either.
Maybe the thread should be re-titled "Was Carmelo a Wash for Denver?".
And then moved to the Off-Topic forum.
And then locked. 
jrodmc wrote:It's amazing. Results are defined as getting out of the "junior varsity" regular season. Player A is on Team D. Team D makes the playoffs every year.
Team K hasn't smelled the playoffs in nearly a decade.
Player A goes to Team K, Team K is now in the playoffs each year.
How is the trade of Player A a wash for Team K?
Why is this so difficult? Why was Team K suddenly in the playoffs every year? Was it the superb coaching? Brilliant management and ownership? Was it the sudden influx of fabulous talent around Player A? Was it the MSG facade upgrade? Was it part of a league conspiracy in the Eastern conference?
Stop it. Team K was already going to the playoffs the year PlayerA came in. I think we played .500 after the trade. Team K with Player A isn't going to make the playoffs every year unless you're going to conveniently ignore this year's debacle. Team D is getting a lotto pick thanks to the trade. They're not regretting the trade at all.
