Dagger wrote:Knixkik wrote:Dagger wrote:I find it hilarious melo can sit there and say he's all about winning and then give a strong endorsement of Woodson in the same sentence.
He is backing Woodson and many people, including Dolan and Phil understand why he is doing it. That it, he is distancing himself from the coaching situation and does not want to be viewed as playing a part in his firing. If he said "no comment" or did not at least provide a moderate endorsement, everyone in media would interpret it as he wants him fired, and even though its likely the case, he does not want to say anything or not say anything that associates him with the inevidible firing. He's just playing the game.
I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks melo is the reason Woodson will be fired. So don't think the while coach killer thing is relevant here. A simple That's out my hands, but I have confidence in Mike as a coach" would gave been politically correct without going overboard.
People out there will still associate him as a coach killer. Logical people won't, but its a sensitive subject with him i'm sure.
GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go again guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go aga guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Yeah only reason he should stay is because he trusts Phil has the ability to build a contender. Any other reason than that he can pack his bags.
Dagger wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go aga guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Yeah only reason he should stay is because he trusts Phil has the ability to build a contender. Any other reason than that he can pack his bags.
If Jackson didn't enter the picture I doubt that would have been enough to keep him in NY. What his wife wants is something Melo has to factor into his decision. It is what it is.
The writing is in the wall. melo is GONE. Read what he's saying. We can only hope we can get a couple picks for him
gunsnewing wrote:Melo might very well be the dumbest athlete ever unless you consider Bobo the wrestler an athlete
Marbury, JR Smith and John Starks are easily dumber, and that's just some Knick players. I'm sure there are lots more. I don't think Melo is particularly dumb. He is just not willing to sacrifice (ego, money, etc.) to win.
You have a point on those guys. I don't think JR is dumb. Just very adventurous
Melo comment about money was interesting.
basically melo and Lebron need to have a talk.
Dont know how, but Melo in Miami is real to me. LA LA cosmetic company whore group hangs there.
I have not read a thing but I used to do some consulting for Market America, the parent company to La La's cosmetic endeavor and these people are a trip.
TeamBall wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go again guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Lebron wasn't single
LeBron got married last year.
GustavBahler wrote:TeamBall wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go again guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Lebron wasn't single
LeBron got married last year.
I don't know how that makes him single. At the time, they had like 3 kids together and they were with each other for a while.
TeamBall wrote:GustavBahler wrote:TeamBall wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go again guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Lebron wasn't single
LeBron got married last year.
I don't know how that makes him single. At the time, they had like 3 kids together and they were with each other for a while.
It does take "whats mine is yours" up a notch, but you have a point.
GustavBahler wrote:TeamBall wrote:GustavBahler wrote:TeamBall wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bomani Jones was on PTI and made an interesting point, all the guys who took less to team up were single at the time. LaLa might not like the idea of leaving NYC and leaving 30 million on the table.
Here we go again guys staying with us for all the wrong reasons
Lebron wasn't single
LeBron got married last year.
I don't know how that makes him single. At the time, they had like 3 kids together and they were with each other for a while.
It does take "whats mine is yours" up a notch, but you have a point.
Thats true also. I get what Bomani is saying, but I think Lala is a different case since she had her own personal interest in Melo being in NY.
The guy has said on a number of occasions that money means very little to him, but people are still saying is going stay here for max money..
Why wouldn't melo back woody, he gave him free reign to shoot at will and run the team offensively, and that one of the main reason woodson has got to go. Any decent coach knows melo is not a leader, never will be, and should not put the ball in his hands unless some else sets him up (like kidd)
Knixkik wrote:Dagger wrote:I find it hilarious melo can sit there and say he's all about winning and then give a strong endorsement of Woodson in the same sentence.
He is backing Woodson and many people, including Dolan and Phil understand why he is doing it. That it, he is distancing himself from the coaching situation and does not want to be viewed as playing a part in his firing. If he said "no comment" or did not at least provide a moderate endorsement, everyone in media would interpret it as he wants him fired, and even though its likely the case, he does not want to say anything or not say anything that associates him with the inevidible firing. He's just playing the game.
Pretty much this ^^^
Glad to see Melo has handlers with some foresight. Good for him. Don't play the game, just get to winning.
Is he recruiting Lebron or someone else to NY? Let's hope so.
If not, and he heads to Chitown or Texas, so be it. He's not gonna screw us over. We'll get assets and picks for him.
IronWillGiroud wrote:TeamBall wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chris Herring @HerringWSJ 33sAmare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.
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Say whaaaaat?
The laziness Amare exhibits in this play will always infuriate me
I don't think it's laziness, he's just you know
He's shown he's capable of playing pretty good defense, but only very occasionally- it's like its so unnatural for him, he has to make a special dedicated effort.
Just watched Tysons exit interview- he said twice that we need a winning coach, which is odd as Woody hasn't been officially fired yet. Basically Tyson seems to think it's all Woody's fault, complaining that he never ran enough offence for him to take advantage of the jumper he allegedly developed in the offseason etc.
Amar'e seems to blame the players talking about the need for professionals, and how some people didn't buy in. Wonder if Amar'e is talking about Tyson, as he also said that professionals work on their body and stay healthy (think he was probably talking about Beno and JR, maybe Felton too.).
IronWillGiroud wrote:TeamBall wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chris Herring @HerringWSJ 33sAmare says he realizes that Woodson is under fire, but that he's learned more defensively under Woodson than any coach he's had.
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Say whaaaaat?
The laziness Amare exhibits in this play will always infuriate me
I don't think it's laziness, he's just you know
I think he thought there was going to be a 3 point shot, not a pass. He got faked very easily. It wasn't laziness as much as gullibility and bad instincts.
Clean wrote:I have been gone for a while since I knew the Knicks would treat this this season as a macrocosm of their futile attempts at winning actual games. They will come close in the end but ultimately fail, thus breaking their fans heart more. I happened to read some of the quotes melo said while going about my day and decided to say something. Short sighted melo is looking like it is rearing its ugly head again. The one difference between The Heats big 3 and Melo is that they all saw the big picture and Melo was always short sighted.The Big 3 conspired to all play together and take less money to be able to form a good team around themselves. What did Melo do? He got a longer contract so to he could get a bigger paycheck. His last year in Denver he could have signed with us in the offseason giving his team more assets to surround him with talent. He was so short sighed that all he could think about was getting the biggest paycheck possible while still playing with the Knicks(Endorsement Money). This thought backfired by giving Denver leverage they should have never had. There is a lot more example of this that I have in my head but I don't feel like putting the effort into listing them all. This team does not deserve my full effort with how badly they performed this year.
Melo is now at another fork in the road in his career and his quotes show me that he is ready to take the short sighted approached again. The gist one quote that sticks out the most is that he is not willing to endure a rebuilding season. He could end up going to the Bulls where they will always without a doubt be in the playoffs or he could endure one bad season with the Knicks and recruit Lebron and some others to be apart of something special in New York. Short sighted Melo will probably make 1 of 2 decisions when the time comes. He will either take a Max contract and handicap our team for years or he will leave for a good team that will always make the playoffs but will probably never win a championship. He always says he wants to win and I believe him. The problem with Melo is that he always takes the short sighted approach.
that fork in the road should be stuck in melo.
