Knicks · Will Phil Coach The Knicks Via Proxy? (page 2)

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

One chant of "is Brooklyn in da house" (point at Brooklyn accross his chest) should seal the deal for Kerr!

misterearl wrote:Jim Cleamons.

Why?

I'd like him on the bench.

He got a raw deal in Dallas for sure, but Im curious why he never got a head job after.

Knick job I would think besides x's and o's would be more attractive if the coach was a bit charismatic. Winning first of course but a coach that can communicate is a plus. Might be why the color announcers get good gigs, and visa versa. They help sell the team as well. Phil, despite his arrogant manner was a good interview!

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

I love the combo... I think most would prefer to see Phil coach and Kerr run the team but what really matters is they are both part of the same page. I mean when Phil Jackson picks you to run a team he's building, the first team he's building I would expect that person to be totally in tune with what Phil wants to accomplish, and HOW he wants it accomplished. Lets see the man do his work.

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

nixluva wrote:Phil, Kerr and all the other winning former assistants n players that will be added will change the Knicks culture. The new culture will be the same winning culture Phil has established before. Kerr knows this culture plus the Spurs culture so why wouldn't he be a good man to lead this team?

+1. Totally agree that cultural change is the most important aspect of hiring Kerr and PJax. Knicks need to turn THAT around first and foremost. We've got deeply rooted LOSERness in the Garden and we need to do something about that.

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

whats your concern? That Kerr doesnt know enough hoops? That he cant lead? Forget last year's debacle.. how about the 54 win season? What did Woody do that Kerr couldnt do better?

Maybe my main concern is that Kerr's main resume bullet right now is "I know Phil". The rest is all really bad window dressing. Maybe to the rest of the NBA heads in here the Knicks are completely interchangeable with the Suns or the BobCats, but my humble homer opinion is there is possibly a little bit more required here then Phoenix. Just a hunch.

Very, very good question, what has Mr. Kerr led? The Phoenix Suns back office? Does that type of experience make Kiki Vandeweghe a great head coach? What makes you think Kerr can do anything better than an actual head coach who's actually had playoff experience?

Please be specific. I trust Phil is not an answer.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

For that matter, Rodman would be a good coach too!!!!!

My take on kerr is not that he is a good announcer but the job he does and how well he does it is indicitive of a sharp mind. Calling games kept him in the game. He has to study the teams and be prepared. Not the same as coaching, but he is watching tape, talking, and is in the game.

Was not highly recruited in high school, shows fortitide to get a spot on a team, keep it, succeed. Blew out the knee, redshirted and came back. Understands the process. Second round pick: Had to stick in the league.
Clutch moments: he executed when his number was called. Role player: They learn. CHampionships: understands winning. GM: Understands owner, roster, day to day............

How will he do? He might be a train wreck, but his resume is good. I agree with Jennie and Phil should coach. But that is not happening..

gunsnewing wrote:You think Phil frickin Jackson is only hiring Kerr because they know each other?

And I guess you think Stevie chuckin Kerr's a candidate because of his stellar record as a TV announcer?
Re-list all those great coaching qualifications for me, please.

Try to remember, you just downplayed knowing Phil (which would include knowing the Triangle).

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:You think Phil frickin Jackson is only hiring Kerr because they know each other?

Can you read?

And I guess you think Stevie chuckin Kerr's a candidate because of his stellar record as a TV announcer?
Re-list all those great coaching qualifications for me, please.

Try to remember, you just downplayed knowing Phil (which would include knowing the Triangle).

What made Hornacek "qualified"?

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

whats your concern? That Kerr doesnt know enough hoops? That he cant lead? Forget last year's debacle.. how about the 54 win season? What did Woody do that Kerr couldnt do better?

Basketball IQ, no concerns there.

Maybe my main concern is that Kerr's main resume bullet right now is "I know Phil". The rest is all really bad window dressing. Maybe to the rest of the NBA heads in here the Knicks are completely interchangeable with the Suns or the BobCats, but my humble homer opinion is there is possibly a little bit more required here then Phoenix. Just a hunch.

Very, very good question, what has Mr. Kerr led? The Phoenix Suns back office? Does that type of experience make Kiki Vandeweghe a great head coach? What makes you think Kerr can do anything better than an actual head coach who's actually had playoff experience?

Please be specific. I trust Phil is not an answer.

NBA coaching doesnt have a clearly defined skill set. Sometimes it leadership. Sometimes its the ability to teach, in Phil's case it was the ability to persuade and communicate. Kerr's experience running the Suns should not be dismissed either. Already having a handle on how to navigate a front office is a bonus..

Phil knows a lot of people and certainly has a lot of choices. Why do *you* think he would pick Kerr over any of the other 50+ qualified folks who he could interview?

I dont honestly have the answer but Im damn excited to find out.

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

whats your concern? That Kerr doesnt know enough hoops? That he cant lead? Forget last year's debacle.. how about the 54 win season? What did Woody do that Kerr couldnt do better?

Basketball IQ, no concerns there.

Maybe my main concern is that Kerr's main resume bullet right now is "I know Phil". The rest is all really bad window dressing. Maybe to the rest of the NBA heads in here the Knicks are completely interchangeable with the Suns or the BobCats, but my humble homer opinion is there is possibly a little bit more required here then Phoenix. Just a hunch.

Very, very good question, what has Mr. Kerr led? The Phoenix Suns back office? Does that type of experience make Kiki Vandeweghe a great head coach? What makes you think Kerr can do anything better than an actual head coach who's actually had playoff experience?

Please be specific. I trust Phil is not an answer.

same reason Doc Rivers, Jason Kidd and Marc Jackson all got jobs with less experience than Kerr... they are bringing *something* to the table that prompted a GM to hire them.

NBA coaching doesnt have a clearly defined skill set. Sometimes it leadership. Sometimes its the ability to teach, in Phil's case it was the ability to persuade and communicate. Kerr's experience running the Suns should not be dismissed either. Already having a handle on how to navigate a front office is a bonus..

Phil knows a lot of people and certainly has a lot of choices. Why do *you* think he would pick Kerr over any of the other 50+ qualified folks who he could interview?

I dont honestly have the answer but Im damn excited to find out.

Difference is these guys were leaders everywhere they played..Phil is working on his coaching tree..Even JVG has a coaching tree..The greatest winner of all time has zero coaches in the NBA..

But the upside for me is if Kerr blows then Phil has to step in if it's the triangle ..

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:"living for the Cit-Tay............"

Stevie "Kerr" Wonder

Blasphemy.

Riley used to talk about credibility. You are JR Smith. You are Carmelo. You are staring down at the Little Phil-E Wonder.
What are you thinking?
"By golly, he was GM in Phoenix when they got Shaq!"
"He hit that three when MJ passed him the ball!"
"He's run triangles!"
"At least he's not Lawrence Frank!"

Pony up some useless picks and Dolans checks, and get me Thibs. The triangle is not fuhucking brain surgery.
One of Phil's best quotes to date: "chop wood, haul water".

Move your feet. The basics, gentlemen. "This, is a basketball..."

And your point is???

What does being a GM in Phoenix buy you here, in the Cit-Tay?
Phoenix??? Really? To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Is the CAA Tamany Hall machine really going to be afeerd of that? Or impressed?

Thibs hasn't run the Triangle. To borrow a phrase, BFD.
Anyone know Thibs IQ?

Robert Horry hit lotsa clutch 3's too, and has more rings, does that mean he could be your coach?

What is this guy's coaching credibility based on? He knows PJax. Is that the main criteria?

Kerr retired awhile ago, so stop with the playing crap. I don't give a sheet since he isn't suiting up. And he hasn't spent last season doing the JKidd prepatory approach to head coaching in this league.

Tell me something good.

We need someone to hold all these misfit toys accountable, agreed?
What we don't need is a Phil MiniMe.

Coach or GM. Make up your mind.

If your cred is based solely on your nepotistic relationship to the boss, do your grunts respect you or think you're an instant troll?
Magnify that answer 20 times. This is a big business, with millionaire 20 and 30 somethings. With really big egos.
None of that changes no matter what we type about here in fanfantasyland.

whats your concern? That Kerr doesnt know enough hoops? That he cant lead? Forget last year's debacle.. how about the 54 win season? What did Woody do that Kerr couldnt do better?

Basketball IQ, no concerns there.

Maybe my main concern is that Kerr's main resume bullet right now is "I know Phil". The rest is all really bad window dressing. Maybe to the rest of the NBA heads in here the Knicks are completely interchangeable with the Suns or the BobCats, but my humble homer opinion is there is possibly a little bit more required here then Phoenix. Just a hunch.

Very, very good question, what has Mr. Kerr led? The Phoenix Suns back office? Does that type of experience make Kiki Vandeweghe a great head coach? What makes you think Kerr can do anything better than an actual head coach who's actually had playoff experience?

Please be specific. I trust Phil is not an answer.

same reason Doc Rivers, Jason Kidd and Marc Jackson all got jobs with less experience than Kerr... they are bringing *something* to the table that prompted a GM to hire them.

NBA coaching doesnt have a clearly defined skill set. Sometimes it leadership. Sometimes its the ability to teach, in Phil's case it was the ability to persuade and communicate. Kerr's experience running the Suns should not be dismissed either. Already having a handle on how to navigate a front office is a bonus..

Phil knows a lot of people and certainly has a lot of choices. Why do *you* think he would pick Kerr over any of the other 50+ qualified folks who he could interview?

I dont honestly have the answer but Im damn excited to find out.

I don't honestly know either, but all I'm reading is Kerr knows Phil, Kerr ran the triangle. Not too terribly exciting, is all I'm saying.

And running a backoffice in Phoenix, or almost anywhere else is actually going to be a plus coming into the documented menageri we have here in Dolanville? C'mon.
You keep coming up with guesses.

I guess we will find out, since they're don't seem to be any other serious candidates to worry about.