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meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

His homophobia and his overall reluctance to leave his church in Cali just screams trouble to me. And I'm a firm believer that religion is a private matter. And did someone say he called people he didn't like the devil?

Edit: but I'm not against religion in general though

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

I dunno, my spidersense is tickling.. just seems misplaced in a professional environment. And this video...

TeamBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

Is he praying for Jason Collins too or just his family? I dunno, this is obviously a matter where you tread lightly. I don't doubt that MJax is a smart man.

And I might definitely be wrong, I just thought I read somewhere that he said he was against homosexuality

skeng wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

Is he praying for Jason Collins too or just his family? I dunno, this is obviously a matter where you tread lightly. I don't doubt that MJax is a smart man

He is praying for him to get healed.

skeng wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

Is he praying for Jason Collins too or just his family? I dunno, this is obviously a matter where you tread lightly. I don't doubt that MJax is a smart man.

And I might definitely be wrong, I just thought I read somewhere that he said he was against homosexuality

When you respond to a topic about someone coming out with saying that you have beliefs about what's right and wrong and that you're praying for them, I'd have to think he's not a fan of homosexuality.

TeamBall wrote:

skeng wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

Is he praying for Jason Collins too or just his family? I dunno, this is obviously a matter where you tread lightly. I don't doubt that MJax is a smart man.

And I might definitely be wrong, I just thought I read somewhere that he said he was against homosexuality

When you respond to a topic about someone coming out with saying that you have beliefs about what's right and wrong and that you're praying for them, I'd have to think he's not a fan of homosexuality.

Lol, it's late over here, I should read better... But yeah, glad we agree that he seems/is homophobic

Agreed.

skeng wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

skeng wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

skeng wrote:Big NO on MJAX. That religious background irks me big time. I can most definitely imagine PJax and MJax not getting along.

I have already stated that I don't him hired. But curious about why his religion bothers you? Is there some extreme religious views he has expressed? sorry I just don't know.

I looked it up after reading his posts cause I didn't know either. In response to Jason Collins coming out, Jackson said:

As a Christian man, I serve a God that gives you free will to be whomever you want to be. As a Christian man, I have beliefs about what’s right and what’s wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins. I know his family. I’m certainly praying for them at this time.

Is he praying for Jason Collins too or just his family? I dunno, this is obviously a matter where you tread lightly. I don't doubt that MJax is a smart man.

And I might definitely be wrong, I just thought I read somewhere that he said he was against homosexuality

When you respond to a topic about someone coming out with saying that you have beliefs about what's right and wrong and that you're praying for them, I'd have to think he's not a fan of homosexuality.

Lol, it's late over here, I should read better... But yeah, glad we agree that he seems/is homophobic

Completely agree. I don't want that here.

This is about Mark Jackson being from queens. Nothing more

I say we make Ron Artest head coach since he's also from Queens

with the advent of gay citizens making inroads in the nba and nfl it looks like mark jackson is going to have to do some soul searching if he wants to find work. he's un-hireable.

gunsnewing wrote:This is about Mark Jackson being from queens. Nothing more

I say we make Ron Artest head coach since he's also from Queens

The guy don't want to give up his ministry in Van Nuy's, has his mission in life, his own thoughts and perhaps not all them are "Correct" with a very public entertainment company.

I doubt there was a synapse of consideration for him as a coach in NY other than he is from queens and a former knick and thats driven my the media and fans longing for the "good old days"!

I would bring in Ewing and teach him the triangle before I bring in Mark. Last thing we need is tension between coach and front office

MJax has strong christian values and while thats great, a man who does not support gay marriage is a public relations liabilty if his view is revealed.
It can become a problem with sponsers who pay big money to MSG. That translates to revenue loss.

Personally I have no problem with a man expressing his views but when your paid by a company and put on the podium by that company the views become attached by association.

Wife went to ST Johns when MJax played there and we always a big fan of him and his game. Donnie I thought wanted Mully to be his successor and I am sure the Interst in MJax was real at the time but why he never was seriously considered will never be known to us. SOmetimes a GM will interview a guy to get him exposure in hopes he gets another gig down the line.

THink is, did MJax ever really want to coach in NYC?

Pick Up The Phone Phil

Q. did MJax ever really want to coach in NYC?

A. Is pig pork?

Any public relations issues are offset by Mark Jackson being a product of New York. Expert media communications can diffuse any issue that needs to be handled.

When considering a coaching RESUME, and his ability to get the best from his PLAYERS, Mark Jackson is the best available head coach.

Make the call.

misterearl wrote:Pick Up The Phone Phil

Q. did MJax ever really want to coach in NYC?

A. Is pig pork?

Any public relations issues are offset by Mark Jackson being a product of New York. Expert media communications can diffuse any issue that needs to be handled.

When considering a coaching RESUME, and his ability to get the best from his PLAYERS, Mark Jackson is the best available head coach.

Make the call.

you seem to be living in a bizarro world where down is up, left is right, triangles are iso sets and homophobia is trumped by being a native new yorker.

it would be a public relations nightmare to hire jackson now.

Nalod wrote:MJax has strong christian values and while thats great, a man who does not support gay marriage is a public relations liabilty if his view is revealed.
It can become a problem with sponsers who pay big money to MSG. That translates to revenue loss.

Personally I have no problem with a man expressing his views but when your paid by a company and put on the podium by that company the views become attached by association.

Wife went to ST Johns when MJax played there and we always a big fan of him and his game. Donnie I thought wanted Mully to be his successor and I am sure the Interst in MJax was real at the time but why he never was seriously considered will never be known to us. SOmetimes a GM will interview a guy to get him exposure in hopes he gets another gig down the line.

THink is, did MJax ever really want to coach in NYC?

Really??...There are politicians who uses this as their platform to get into office....Our current President just change his public view on the topic just before last election..I have never heard of any sponsors boycotting any business because of their view on gay marriage...

Chris Broussard of ESPN called the act an abomination on during an interview, while working for ESPN, who probably have the most sponsors known to man, and he still has a job...

Glad you bumped this Nalod.

So lets recap:
Mark Jackson got hired as a completely untried, unexperienced head coach for a Bay Area NBA franchise. Near San Francisco. As a supposedly homophobic Christian man. And lasted there a few years and got the team to a level it hadn't been since Rick Barry was playing.

Mark Jackson develops documented issues with members of ownership and the management, but is well-liked by his players.

After bowing out in the 1st round this season, he is summarily fired. No one mentions the personality issues have anything to do with homophobia, which most would agree, if possible, any casual person observing the media today would know the media would sell their own bodily organs to be able to publicize.

Now Mark Jackson, the ex-Knick, ex-NYC native is not a fit for the Knicks because he doesn't happen to morally agree with the sexual preference of homosexuality, for stated religious reasons. I would think most in here would be able to acknowledge that what you prefer to do with your dick is a question of morality. Especially if you feel the need to announce it to the world and label yourself by said preference.

Charlie Ward, John Starks and Alan Houston are all Christians and ex-Knicks and some present/former members of management who would probably hold somewhat the same opinion along the same lines.

Now follow me, here, because I realize many of you post and type words without bothering to even wonder what they actually mean.

Homophobia is defined as an irrational fear, aversion or discrimination against homosexuals. Does Mark Jackson strike you as someone who's afraid, averse or discriminating against homosexuals? Is a man's morality now something he should keep in the closet, in order not to offend those who think their morality is the only one fit for public display? Is morality irrational, unless you leave it in your own home?

There are those of you truly living in a bizarro world where you would actually worry about a person's moral stance costing some shekels to an owner who has had some of the most documented public relations nightmares in the history of the NBA (and seems to enjoy them) and use this angst as your primary reason to keep from endorsing someone for a coaching job. I suppose if he was gay, we'd be waving banners and picking out ties for him to wear on the bench at MSG. Does that strike you as just a bit intolerant and bigoted?

Can the man coach this team? Would he be a hard azz with JR? Would he be able to push Melo? Can he get more out of Tyson? Would he be able to embrace the Dear Triangle and possibly get Shump/Pablo/Toure to run it? What affect would he have on THJr? What kind of talent scout is he?
These are important questions.

jrodmc wrote:Glad you bumped this Nalod.

So lets recap:
Mark Jackson got hired as a completely untried, unexperienced head coach for a Bay Area NBA franchise. Near San Francisco. As a supposedly homophobic Christian man. And lasted there a few years and got the team to a level it hadn't been since Rick Barry was playing.

Mark Jackson develops documented issues with members of ownership and the management, but is well-liked by his players.

After bowing out in the 1st round this season, he is summarily fired. No one mentions the personality issues have anything to do with homophobia, which most would agree, if possible, any casual person observing the media today would know the media would sell their own bodily organs to be able to publicize.

Now Mark Jackson, the ex-Knick, ex-NYC native is not a fit for the Knicks because he doesn't happen to morally agree with the sexual preference of homosexuality, for stated religious reasons. I would think most in here would be able to acknowledge that what you prefer to do with your dick is a question of morality. Especially if you feel the need to announce it to the world and label yourself by said preference.

Charlie Ward, John Starks and Alan Houston are all Christians and ex-Knicks and some present/former members of management who would probably hold somewhat the same opinion along the same lines.

Now follow me, here, because I realize many of you post and type words without bothering to even wonder what they actually mean.

Homophobia is defined as an irrational fear, aversion or discrimination against homosexuals. Does Mark Jackson strike you as someone who's afraid, averse or discriminating against homosexuals? Is a man's morality now something he should keep in the closet, in order not to offend those who think their morality is the only one fit for public display? Is morality irrational, unless you leave it in your own home?

There are those of you truly living in a bizarro world where you would actually worry about a person's moral stance costing some shekels to an owner who has had some of the most documented public relations nightmares in the history of the NBA (and seems to enjoy them) and use this angst as your primary reason to keep from endorsing someone for a coaching job. I suppose if he was gay, we'd be waving banners and picking out ties for him to wear on the bench at MSG. Does that strike you as just a bit intolerant and bigoted?

Can the man coach this team? Would he be a hard azz with JR? Would he be able to push Melo? Can he get more out of Tyson? Would he be able to embrace the Dear Triangle and possibly get Shump/Pablo/Toure to run it? What affect would he have on THJr? What kind of talent scout is he?
These are important questions.

Bravo!!

Bring in Mark Jackson and sit Tyronn Lue next him..Have Kurt Rambis sit a few seats down the bench or who the hell ever played in the system, which seems to be the only requirement to coach these days...

Does ESPN know something we don't know? Maybe Action Jackson is heading to Houston.