y2zipper wrote:We know the plan. Phil is going to hire a guy off his coaching tree to mentor and groom, and the team is going to try and convince Melo to stay. If Melo stays, they'll make small one-year moves to contend again like last year and wait for the 2015 cap space. If Melo leaves, it's tank city for the year.
I don't think we'll be that bad if Melo leaves- I'm not discounting him at all - but I think with healthy Amar'e, better system day one and some tweaks- we have a 35+/- win team.
Which either gets us to the 8th seed, or just to the back of the lottery 
franco12 wrote:y2zipper wrote:We know the plan. Phil is going to hire a guy off his coaching tree to mentor and groom, and the team is going to try and convince Melo to stay. If Melo stays, they'll make small one-year moves to contend again like last year and wait for the 2015 cap space. If Melo leaves, it's tank city for the year.
I don't think we'll be that bad if Melo leaves- I'm not discounting him at all - but I think with healthy Amar'e, better system day one and some tweaks- we have a 35+/- win team.
Which either gets us to the 8th seed, or just to the back of the lottery
Yeah if Melo walks they should dump Amare for maximum tankage. Whether they can deal Amare or not (expirings are not the commodity they once were sadly) what they should do to be as mad as possible is to play Bargs as many minutes as they can. Like Melo/Durant level minutes and usage. Throw Bargs at center and point forward and have him run pick and rolls and bang down low with beastly centers and forwards. 
That should be enough to really be terrible and get that high pick.
franco12 wrote:y2zipper wrote:We know the plan. Phil is going to hire a guy off his coaching tree to mentor and groom, and the team is going to try and convince Melo to stay. If Melo stays, they'll make small one-year moves to contend again like last year and wait for the 2015 cap space. If Melo leaves, it's tank city for the year.
I don't think we'll be that bad if Melo leaves- I'm not discounting him at all - but I think with healthy Amar'e, better system day one and some tweaks- we have a 35+/- win team.
Which either gets us to the 8th seed, or just to the back of the lottery
I think if you are counting on a healthy amare you are in trouble, especially if melo leaves. Also, the ball sticks when it goes to amare.
Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:Kerr is not a coach, he is an intern and has no aspirations to coach long term. Get into the f*&^%ng truck. I would much rather look at Derek Fisher if I go down the triangle road. Knicks should be talking to Stan, this is bullshit.
Why Derek Fisher over Kerr?
Do we know just becuase he played in the triangle he'd coach it? Wants to be a coach?
Papabear Says
You guys and the triangle!! Remember Phil had MJ in Chicago and Kobe and Shaq in LA they were the top players in the league. With Melo gone how does the Triangle work? This is another big joke for the Knicks and all you guys wanting the best player to be gone.Give 2 years and all you guys will be calling for Phils head.
djsunyc wrote:coach is very relevant imho. look at kidd with the nets.ok, knicks re-sign melo and get kerr. then they end up with love or whomever you want to say. then they don't win a title b/c kerr is just not experienced enough to get it done. you just wasted a year of melo's prime with love (not to mention a wasted year next season as well). if the knicks are serious about contending, then you either hire a big name guy now or a 1 year stop gap.
phil wants his triangle and everyone else be damned. problem is that phil is not the coach.
So if the Knicks sign Love to pair with Melo (two guys who play no defence and have had little to no sucesses in the post season) and they fail to win a title in year one it's going to be because of Kerrs lack of experience? This is exactly why he's holding out for as much money as he can. If we're supposed to be trusting Phil and this is who Phil wants then cut the check. Kerrs not gonna be on the cap and his contract won't prevent us from replacing him so what difference does it make?
Papabear wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:Kerr is not a coach, he is an intern and has no aspirations to coach long term. Get into the f*&^%ng truck. I would much rather look at Derek Fisher if I go down the triangle road. Knicks should be talking to Stan, this is bullshit.
Why Derek Fisher over Kerr?
Do we know just becuase he played in the triangle he'd coach it? Wants to be a coach?
Papabear SaysYou guys and the triangle!! Remember Phil had MJ in Chicago and Kobe and Shaq in LA they were the top players in the league. With Melo gone how does the Triangle work? This is another big joke for the Knicks and all you guys wanting the best player to be gone.Give 2 years and all you guys will be calling for Phils head.
It will be difficult to win with Melo in triangle any way you look at it. One thing in the triangle is you need players that move without the ball. I have seen Melo enough to know that he doesn't much care for moving without the ball. That is what D'Antoni tried to implement with Melo and his effort level was piss poor. Same with triangle he is going to have to move and cut for easy opportunities at scoring. Something MJ, Pippen and Kobe all did well.
