Greg Anthony? Reggie Miller? Chris Webber?
yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:why in the world are people listing Derek Fisher?
He ain't even got color commentary experience.
More experience in the Triangle than Kerr
That is true. But does he have coaching in him. I'm sure Phil knows who might make a splash in coaching based on his interactions with his players.
He is a natural born leader. Kobe and Durant speak very highly of him. Kobe's favorite teammate. Pretty sure he's already talked about coaching when he hangs it up
Durant speaks highly of Scott Brooks and wants Westbrook to keep gunning. Why couldn't Fisher coach himself to have better shot selection. Maybe his weakness as a player makes him a great coach?
I don't understand
Durant lacks credibility because his stamp of approval is suspect and Fisher was not a floor leader or a good player. Sure he made some big shots but overall he is an highly overrated player. Sure he knows how to play the triangle but does he know how to coach it. Is he familiar with analytics, drawing up plays, and etc?
I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson didn't know anything either when he was winning championships with the Knicks 40yrs ago not as a great player but as a garbage man/enforcer/instigator. Same for Riley
gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:why in the world are people listing Derek Fisher?
He ain't even got color commentary experience.
More experience in the Triangle than Kerr
That is true. But does he have coaching in him. I'm sure Phil knows who might make a splash in coaching based on his interactions with his players.
He is a natural born leader. Kobe and Durant speak very highly of him. Kobe's favorite teammate. Pretty sure he's already talked about coaching when he hangs it up
Durant speaks highly of Scott Brooks and wants Westbrook to keep gunning. Why couldn't Fisher coach himself to have better shot selection. Maybe his weakness as a player makes him a great coach?
I don't understand
Durant lacks credibility because his stamp of approval is suspect and Fisher was not a floor leader or a good player. Sure he made some big shots but overall he is an highly overrated player. Sure he knows how to play the triangle but does he know how to coach it. Is he familiar with analytics, drawing up plays, and etc?
I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson didn't know anything either when he was winning championships with the Knicks 40yrs ago not as a great player but as a garbage man/enforcer/instigator. Same for Riley
Time to bring in Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, Bill Lambeer, and Antonio Davis. Bill has coaching experience.
Sure the names in Phil's coaching tree aren't sexy but I maintain that it does'nt matter who he names as coach as long as its someone with no previous ties. Someone he can mold like Riley did with Spoeltra. Then surrond the guy with veteran coaches like Cleamons, Rambis and Cartwright
Is Brian Shaw locked into Denver?
can Geno Auriemma coach the triangle?
JVG's a sensible man. Barring a significant blow to the head, there's no way he'll coach the Knicks. I could have seen him going to GS if the offered him the farm but the Knicks, no.
I just hope Phil doesn't give in to the pressure from the media and fans and hire Mark Jackson. It's Walsh hiring Dantoni all over again
I know he qualifies as a retread, but I hope they consider Sloan for the job. Hasnt bounced from team to team, Sloan has been to the finals and was a former player as well. Would make Nets games more interesting with DWill there. Not a Phil guy but that is not necessarily a bad thing.
NumberTwoPencil wrote:JVG's a sensible man. Barring a significant blow to the head, there's no way he'll coach the Knicks. I could have seen him going to GS if the offered him the farm but the Knicks, no.
I'd like JVG to be our coach, but now Phil is here it doesn't make sense- we'd just have constant media articles saying that they were at war with each other.
Yup and same with Mark jackson
Ha, watch OKC fire Scott Brooks and hire Derek Fisher!
smackeddog wrote:Ha, watch OKC fire Scott Brooks and hire Derek Fisher!
Wow hard to pass that up with you are Fisher
We might actually be in some troubl
gunsnewing wrote:I just hope Phil doesn't give in to the pressure from the media and fans and hire Mark Jackson. It's Walsh hiring Dantoni all over again
Media hired MDA?
Nalod wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I just hope Phil doesn't give in to the pressure from the media and fans and hire Mark Jackson. It's Walsh hiring Dantoni all over again
Media hired MDA?
1) It was a starphuch
2) Walsh went against everything he believed in while at Indiana to try to recreate the Phoenix Suns
For once the Knicks from top to bottom need to be on the same page. Like San Antonio and Miami
gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:why in the world are people listing Derek Fisher?
He ain't even got color commentary experience.
More experience in the Triangle than Kerr
That is true. But does he have coaching in him. I'm sure Phil knows who might make a splash in coaching based on his interactions with his players.
He is a natural born leader. Kobe and Durant speak very highly of him. Kobe's favorite teammate. Pretty sure he's already talked about coaching when he hangs it up
Durant speaks highly of Scott Brooks and wants Westbrook to keep gunning. Why couldn't Fisher coach himself to have better shot selection. Maybe his weakness as a player makes him a great coach?
I don't understand
Durant lacks credibility because his stamp of approval is suspect and Fisher was not a floor leader or a good player. Sure he made some big shots but overall he is an highly overrated player. Sure he knows how to play the triangle but does he know how to coach it. Is he familiar with analytics, drawing up plays, and etc?
I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson didn't know anything either when he was winning championships with the Knicks 40yrs ago not as a great player but as a garbage man/enforcer/instigator. Same for Riley
Which is why you can be pretty sure he and his championship winning back went and sat on the bench for the Albany Patroons for a few years. Can we stop with the "he played, so that makes him a great coaching candidate" logic? It's stupid and there's more and better examples of it not working than it working.
Nobody voting for ex-COTY Karl. LOL.
Avery Johnson?
Larry Frank?
Golden Boy Vogel?
Willie Randolph?
jrodmc wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:why in the world are people listing Derek Fisher?
He ain't even got color commentary experience.
More experience in the Triangle than Kerr
That is true. But does he have coaching in him. I'm sure Phil knows who might make a splash in coaching based on his interactions with his players.
He is a natural born leader. Kobe and Durant speak very highly of him. Kobe's favorite teammate. Pretty sure he's already talked about coaching when he hangs it up
Durant speaks highly of Scott Brooks and wants Westbrook to keep gunning. Why couldn't Fisher coach himself to have better shot selection. Maybe his weakness as a player makes him a great coach?
I don't understand
Durant lacks credibility because his stamp of approval is suspect and Fisher was not a floor leader or a good player. Sure he made some big shots but overall he is an highly overrated player. Sure he knows how to play the triangle but does he know how to coach it. Is he familiar with analytics, drawing up plays, and etc?
I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson didn't know anything either when he was winning championships with the Knicks 40yrs ago not as a great player but as a garbage man/enforcer/instigator. Same for Riley
Which is why you can be pretty sure he and his championship winning back went and sat on the bench for the Albany Patroons for a few years. Can we stop with the "he played, so that makes him a great coaching candidate" logic? It's stupid and there's more and better examples of it not working than it working.
That's exactly what I said. You don't have to be a great player to be a great coach
jrodmc wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Vmart wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:why in the world are people listing Derek Fisher?
He ain't even got color commentary experience.
More experience in the Triangle than Kerr
That is true. But does he have coaching in him. I'm sure Phil knows who might make a splash in coaching based on his interactions with his players.
He is a natural born leader. Kobe and Durant speak very highly of him. Kobe's favorite teammate. Pretty sure he's already talked about coaching when he hangs it up
Durant speaks highly of Scott Brooks and wants Westbrook to keep gunning. Why couldn't Fisher coach himself to have better shot selection. Maybe his weakness as a player makes him a great coach?
I don't understand
Durant lacks credibility because his stamp of approval is suspect and Fisher was not a floor leader or a good player. Sure he made some big shots but overall he is an highly overrated player. Sure he knows how to play the triangle but does he know how to coach it. Is he familiar with analytics, drawing up plays, and etc?
I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson didn't know anything either when he was winning championships with the Knicks 40yrs ago not as a great player but as a garbage man/enforcer/instigator. Same for Riley
Which is why you can be pretty sure he and his championship winning back went and sat on the bench for the Albany Patroons for a few years. Can we stop with the "he played, so that makes him a great coaching candidate" logic? It's stupid and there's more and better examples of it not working than it working.
Its a thought process and we just talking to better exchange ideas as to why it is, or isn't a good idea. Nobody here makes the decision.
Media really seems to take a lot of conjecture into the writing. The whole "Kerr's relationshiip" thing with Jax is pretty obvious because few quality humans with with other choices would work for Dolan if they can live closer to home, have a better roster, and had the leverage to demand big money for longer term!
IM not fretting on losing Kerr or second guessing Phil Jax existence and if his inability to land Kerr speaks about his effectiveness going forward and able to attract/retain talent.
For all we know GS was always Kerr's first choice and Phil Jax boasted his value so Lacob would fall over himself and pay up. Phil had advised Detroit owner last year on many. They never fired Dumars but they did make a bad hire in Cheeks and Signed Smith. That would be on Dumars. Maybe Phil was in on the plan to identify SVG for the duel role and had a strong idea that SVG would land their. We only know how things play out in the Media. SVG to Detroit media wise was never dragged out and seemingly was a very short courtship. Ainge Got Brad Stevens last year similarly.
Is/Was Kerr the only candidate? Is the media correct that Phil was only focused on him and now looks stupid? Was or has there been another plan all along?
Stay tuned.
