Knicks · Let's face it, Melo Gone (page 3)

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This sounds good to me 7th. And Melo is not a one way player. Why is the Heat, Lakers, Houston, Chicago, Maveriks all trying to get him? Is LeBron stupid? 12 million - 13 Million is Mello's worth to you. Each one of these will be willing to pay him the max.Maybe not Miami because they can't. One day we will find out what Melo did to you. Maybe you was a water boy on one of his team and he smacked you for spilling water on him? He took your girl friend? He violated you I just can't under stand why the hate for Melo by you is so not normal compared to everyone else on this forum. You have a personal hate for him beyond basketball I believe and one day I will find out.

actually lebron is stupid.... what we should be following is the spurs example.. do they have a player on their team like carmelo? NO actually what they have is the complete opposite...

I want a winner..

not someone to worship!!

Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This sounds good to me 7th. And Melo is not a one way player. Why is the Heat, Lakers, Houston, Chicago, Maveriks all trying to get him? Is LeBron stupid? 12 million - 13 Million is Mello's worth to you. Each one of these will be willing to pay him the max.Maybe not Miami because they can't. One day we will find out what Melo did to you. Maybe you was a water boy on one of his team and he smacked you for spilling water on him? He took your girl friend? He violated you I just can't under stand why the hate for Melo by you is so not normal compared to everyone else on this forum. You have a personal hate for him beyond basketball I believe and one day I will find out.

actually lebron is stupid.... what we should be following is the spurs example.. do they have a player on their team like carmelo? NO actually what they have is the complete opposite...

I want a winner..

not someone to worship!!

Papabear Says

Now I heard it all LeBron is stupid says TKF. I think you and the 7th is drinking the same coolaid and using the same bath water.

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

Papabear Says

Yes he has those rings and he can thank Michael Jordan (the greatest) I think MJ had something to do with it also Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, Scottie Pippen also
I now see where this is going! The 7 called TFK for help and here comes the troll team.
I will not discuss this any more. Martin Martin here they come

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This sounds good to me 7th. And Melo is not a one way player. Why is the Heat, Lakers, Houston, Chicago, Maveriks all trying to get him? Is LeBron stupid? 12 million - 13 Million is Mello's worth to you. Each one of these will be willing to pay him the max.Maybe not Miami because they can't. One day we will find out what Melo did to you. Maybe you was a water boy on one of his team and he smacked you for spilling water on him? He took your girl friend? He violated you I just can't under stand why the hate for Melo by you is so not normal compared to everyone else on this forum. You have a personal hate for him beyond basketball I believe and one day I will find out.

actually lebron is stupid.... what we should be following is the spurs example.. do they have a player on their team like carmelo? NO actually what they have is the complete opposite...

I want a winner..

not someone to worship!!

Papabear Says

Now I heard it all LeBron is stupid says TKF. I think you and the 7th is drinking the same coolaid and using the same bath water.

lebron is a great talent, yet the dude is fragile mentall... he is stupid in the way he goes about his business at times... so now you are going to champion lebron because he feels sorry for carmelo.. great they can both play together somewhere else..

I am a knick fan first.. You are a carmelo fan.. that is clear!!

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

Papabear Says

Yes he has those rings and he can thank Michael Jordan (the greatest) I think MJ had something to do with it also Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, Scottie Pippen also
I now see where this is going! The 7 called TFK for help and here comes the troll team.
I will not discuss this any more. Martin Martin here they come

right and all of those guys are superior to carmeloser..

and phil doesn't want to give him the max.. what does that tell you babybear?

Personally i wont be upset if Melo leaves and that isnt a shot at melo. I trust Phil and the mavs trade showed us that the guy knows what he is doing. he took the worst pg in the nba and FluTyson and turned that into Calderon,larkin(first round pick), ellington, dalembert, and cleanthony early(a first round talent). If melo wants to come back he needs to take a discount. melo said he would but talk is cheap he needs to do it.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

I actually think you make a good point. Melo would be the perfect second guy on the championship team. However he needs to play with someone who si a better overall player. melo can still be the top scorer without being the best player/leader. Thats not a knock on melo just how it is.

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

Papabear Says

Yes he has those rings and he can thank Michael Jordan (the greatest) I think MJ had something to do with it also Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, Scottie Pippen also
I now see where this is going! The 7 called TFK for help and here comes the troll team.
I will not discuss this any more. Martin Martin here they come

dude i am not trying to mug you so quit calling the police

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

Papabear Says

Yes he has those rings and he can thank Michael Jordan (the greatest) I think MJ had something to do with it also Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, Scottie Pippen also
I now see where this is going! The 7 called TFK for help and here comes the troll team.
I will not discuss this any more. Martin Martin here they come

dude i am not trying to mug you so quit calling the police

especially after he is the one who is coming after you..LOL..

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

phil has more rings than all of them put together..why isn't he trying to pay this bum the max? that should be your question...

Papabear Says

Yes he has those rings and he can thank Michael Jordan (the greatest) I think MJ had something to do with it also Kobe, Shaq, Gasol, Scottie Pippen also
I now see where this is going! The 7 called TFK for help and here comes the troll team.
I will not discuss this any more. Martin Martin here they come

dude i am not trying to mug you so quit calling the police

especially after he is the one who is coming after you..LOL..

i took him off ignore and NOW look at the mess he's made!

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

why stop at those two? surely there are others.

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

why stop at those two? surely there are others.

I just pointed those 2 out because they were mentioned. Obviously there are others

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

and it really isn't about them just being better.. but people are saying, get carmelo pay him the max and then pair him with lebron? really?

how about get two guys who can defend, play team ball, pass, score efficiently for under the max combined and then still get lebron... wouldn't that be better..

in other words, why not Get a guy like Parsons and rondo and pair them with lebron, I am sure you can win with that..

why not add lebron to the Hawks squad, I am sure he could win with that..

why not add lebron with noah I am sure he can win with that..

I mean there are a lot of scenarios in which you can add lebron and Durant and have a pretty good friggin team... why must ours include paying a flawed player near max money to do that?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

why stop at those two? surely there are others.

I just pointed those 2 out because they were mentioned. Obviously there are others

how many others?

Marc Stein reported late Friday night that the Knicks are optimistic about their chances of re-signing Anthony in part because of the relationship that’s been established between Anthony and Jackson.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/...

tkf wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Now the 7th is a music man and he failed to answer my question. Why is The Maveriks, Heat, Chicago, the Lakers,Houston and others trying to get Melo since to you he is such a bad player? They are willing to pay him the max. Why is that? why does lebron want him. Answer the damn question! or shut up.

think about it: melo can't go far with him as the team's best player-- he needs to go to a team with at least one player who is better at playing the game than he is. he is a loser otherwise. he needs to hitch his wagon to a better situation or he will end up ringless.

this is the 800-pound gorilla in the room-- everyone realizes he is not that good, including melo. they can SAY whatever they want but it does not change the fact that when a player realizes his limitations he must go elsewhere if there isn't someone better than himself to play with.

put another way, you should think carefully about how you rank melo. if he were truly a top 5 player would he not be more of a winner?

please respond with some insight and coherence instead of the usual lumbering blather. here, have a smiley on me

ps i know PLENTY about music . maybe this is a subject you and i can become friends over. here, have another smiley on me

here is an even bigger problem.. the solution for most in here is to keep carmelo, pay him max and get him help.. now check out who the help is..

Lebron, Durant.. LOL.. I mean why do I need carmelo if I can get those guys? It is safe to say you can build a winner with most players by adding lebron and durant....

I do defend Melo BUT i agree lebron and durant are on another level especially lebron

and it really isn't about them just being better.. but people are saying, get carmelo pay him the max and then pair him with lebron? really?

how about get two guys who can defend, play team ball, pass, score efficiently for under the max combined and then still get lebron... wouldn't that be better..

in other words, why not Get a guy like Parsons and rondo and pair them with lebron, I am sure you can win with that..

why not add lebron to the Hawks squad, I am sure he could win with that..

why not add lebron with noah I am sure he can win with that..

I mean there are a lot of scenarios in which you can add lebron and Durant and have a pretty good friggin team... why must ours include paying a flawed player near max money to do that?

People name Durant and Lebron because of the cap space available and they are the best players. Clearly you shoot for the best players and after they pass you adjust. Most fans don't want Melo at max and some would rather give it to him then lose him for nothing and some would rather lose him for nothing. Free agents like Rondo or Parsons etc aren't going to come to the Knicks unless we offer them ridiculous contracts ala Amare Stoudemire if we are in a rebuilding situation. Some fans are mindful of that and would rather have Melo under contract. There is value in both sides of the equation.

IMO you exaggerate Melo being a loser but I understand your beef with his game especially with the price tag. But the truth is none of the players you want are going to come to the Knicks.