CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:BigRedDog wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angel...I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?
How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!
Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.
some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.
what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?
and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?
simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?
Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
your issue is with carmelo anthony not me. that has always been the case but you are too preoccupied with shooting the messenger.
maybe you are overdue for some genuine introspection?
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:BigRedDog wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angel...I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?
How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!
Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.
some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.
what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?
and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?
simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?
Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
your issue is with carmelo anthony not me. that has always been the case but you are too preoccupied with shooting the messenger.
maybe you are overdue for some genuine introspection?
Not at all. Trashing a guy based on media rumors and speculation is far from civil. I encourage you to look back on this forum to a time before you were banned at real gm to see my opinions on the trade and Melo prior to his becoming a Knick.
If he goes for LA maybe we can do a sign and trade for a TPE- maybe take on Nash's contract for a pick.
Don't underestimated the power of living of living in Los Angeles for Melo and especially LALA. She is named after the city
StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone.
Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I say we were told we would have a draft pick this year and ended up with 3.
I'd say we were told we couldn't move Felton and upgraded.
To say we won't compete is year is falling into the same pattern as the previous two falsities.
Time to be a fan. We will be competitive this year, much more competitive as the previous year and damn near close to the year before.
We have a bench, we have a coach with a system, we have a future near and far.
babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:BigRedDog wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angel...I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?
How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!
Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.
some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.
what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?
and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?
simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?
Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
your issue is with carmelo anthony not me. that has always been the case but you are too preoccupied with shooting the messenger.
maybe you are overdue for some genuine introspection?
Not at all. Trashing a guy based on media rumors and speculation is far from civil. I encourage you to look back on this forum to a time before you were banned at real gm to see my opinions on the trade and Melo prior to his becoming a Knick.
my dislike for the way melo plays the game itself and handles his business has absolutely nothing to do with the rules set forth on an internet forum vis a vis civility.
secondly, i am not earning 145 dollars per second so i am not going to waste a single second researching a point you are apparently trying to prove about yourself. so if you have had something to say back in the day about carmelo anthony that will surprise me then YOU provide the links for the forum to see.
meantime the dude is a mess and it is certainly possible that he is generating some not-so-good karma for himself.
Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong.
No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait... 
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:BigRedDog wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angel...I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?
How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!
Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.
some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.
what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?
and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?
simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?
Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
your issue is with carmelo anthony not me. that has always been the case but you are too preoccupied with shooting the messenger.
maybe you are overdue for some genuine introspection?
Not at all. Trashing a guy based on media rumors and speculation is far from civil. I encourage you to look back on this forum to a time before you were banned at real gm to see my opinions on the trade and Melo prior to his becoming a Knick.
my dislike for the way melo plays the game itself and handles his business has absolutely nothing to do with the rules set forth on an internet forum vis a vis civility.
secondly, i am not earning 145 dollars per second so i am not going to waste a single second researching a point you are apparently trying to prove about yourself. so if you have had something to say back in the day about carmelo anthony that will surprise me then YOU provide the links for the forum to see.
meantime the dude is a mess and it is certainly possible that he is generating some not-so-good karma for himself.
lmao... yea Melo's a mess and creating bad karma. Is that what you and tfk were discussing over tea this morning.
"Melo creates bad karma" is right in the news next to JayZ taking over for Hillary as secratary of state and aliens found in hedge fund leader's brain
http://weeklyworldnews.com/
fishmike wrote:Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong. No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait...
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
Fish you should be melo's agent
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:BigRedDog wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angel...I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?
How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!
Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.
some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.
what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?
and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?
simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?
Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
your issue is with carmelo anthony not me. that has always been the case but you are too preoccupied with shooting the messenger.
maybe you are overdue for some genuine introspection?
Melos agenda is to get enough Knick fans nervous he is going to leave so when he takes 30 million a year he is welcomed back as a savior
StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong. No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait...
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
Fish you should be melo's agent
I dont even love his game. Like Phil, the Mavs, Lakers, Rockets, Bulls, etc... I see him for what he is and what he can do for the Knicks. You just dont let 28/7 walk for flexibility. He's just too talented to lose. Also even as he gets older teams with assets pay if he's healthy. Look at what Pierce and KG got. The only concern is he gets hurt and thats not a concern in the NBA. You pay and hope he stays as healthy as he's been over the years.
Our young guys will look a lot better playing next to him. Fisher's job is easier. Phil's job is easier. Bring MElo back. Bring in another stud next year. Keep building through the draft and adding young pieces... the team's prior mistakes were no because Melo was here. They were because the people making the decisions sucked.
I know others feel different. Thats ok. I understand the want to move on from this player. I also remember the same with Ewing.. lets usher in the new era of uptempo more athletic bla bla bla. I just want to see the Knicks win. Much easier with Melo here IMO. I think we go back to winning 50 and the Atlantic next year if he stays. Even as currently constructed.
fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong. No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait...
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
Fish you should be melo's agent
I dont even love his game. Like Phil, the Mavs, Lakers, Rockets, Bulls, etc... I see him for what he is and what he can do for the Knicks. You just dont let 28/7 walk for flexibility. He's just too talented to lose. Also even as he gets older teams with assets pay if he's healthy. Look at what Pierce and KG got. The only concern is he gets hurt and thats not a concern in the NBA. You pay and hope he stays as healthy as he's been over the years.Our young guys will look a lot better playing next to him. Fisher's job is easier. Phil's job is easier. Bring MElo back. Bring in another stud next year. Keep building through the draft and adding young pieces... the team's prior mistakes were no because Melo was here. They were because the people making the decisions sucked.
I know others feel different. Thats ok. I understand the want to move on from this player. I also remember the same with Ewing.. lets usher in the new era of uptempo more athletic bla bla bla. I just want to see the Knicks win. Much easier with Melo here IMO. I think we go back to winning 50 and the Atlantic next year if he stays. Even as currently constructed.
Except Garnetts contract was worth 12 million not 26 million. Melos contract makes sense for some teams not the Knicks. The Knicks dont have the young core to offset Melos money. Dont give me THJ,Larkin, Early and the Greek as a young core. They are at best rotation players
Jmpasq wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong. No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait...
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
Fish you should be melo's agent
I dont even love his game. Like Phil, the Mavs, Lakers, Rockets, Bulls, etc... I see him for what he is and what he can do for the Knicks. You just dont let 28/7 walk for flexibility. He's just too talented to lose. Also even as he gets older teams with assets pay if he's healthy. Look at what Pierce and KG got. The only concern is he gets hurt and thats not a concern in the NBA. You pay and hope he stays as healthy as he's been over the years.Our young guys will look a lot better playing next to him. Fisher's job is easier. Phil's job is easier. Bring MElo back. Bring in another stud next year. Keep building through the draft and adding young pieces... the team's prior mistakes were no because Melo was here. They were because the people making the decisions sucked.
I know others feel different. Thats ok. I understand the want to move on from this player. I also remember the same with Ewing.. lets usher in the new era of uptempo more athletic bla bla bla. I just want to see the Knicks win. Much easier with Melo here IMO. I think we go back to winning 50 and the Atlantic next year if he stays. Even as currently constructed.
Except Garnetts contract was worth 12 million not 26 million. Melos contract makes sense for some teams not the Knicks. The Knicks dont have the young core to offset Melos money. Dont give me THJ,Larkin, Early and the Greek as a young core. They are at best rotation players
The young core is not the finished product. That comes later.
fishmike you will keep repeating 28/7 as though the league looks the other way at his miserable playoff record, which remains among the worst if not the worst since he began his career. so he has suitors-- since when does the desire correlate with winning titles? it doesn't. but i have seen what he's done here in new york and if he lands with another team then that will be good for new york.
carmelo is incorrigible but there will always be some "neighborhood chick" who believes he is worth the trouble to turn into a winner.
jackson knows better which is why he wants to hold melo to the discount melo himself volunteered but is now reneging on. (do you like that he is reneging?) whatever he ends up being paid in new york it will still be too much.
Jmpasq wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:Silverfuel wrote:babyKnicks wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysNice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.
unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
Correction. A few would not share. I with papa!
I want the Knicks to get Melo back so I guess "I with papa" too.
I want him back to. Not because I know in my heart he's taking us to a title. Not because he's the savior. Not because I spoon his poster at night. In fact the only Melo anything I have is a give away t-shirt that Marv gave me one night I was too drunk to go home and I crashed on his couch. Ive since cut the sleaves off that shirt and use it to the gym, so I guess you could say the shoulders are shot but that shirt is going strong. No, I want Melo back because he's an impact player who produces and its strikes me as utterly insane to let a guy as talented and as productive as him walk to gain "flexibility." The same flexibility we used to lure Amare and Joe Johnson here. Oh wait...
With MElo here and no clue from management we still advanced once and made the playoffs 3 atraight years and won 54 two seasons ago. I expect better results with new management. I also expect (already seeing this) a legit pipeline and players that compliment, rather than complicate. I look forward to winning the Atlantic again next year and punching a certain Raptor's fan in the nuts for fun along the way. Thats what I see. Thats what I want.
Fish you should be melo's agent
I dont even love his game. Like Phil, the Mavs, Lakers, Rockets, Bulls, etc... I see him for what he is and what he can do for the Knicks. You just dont let 28/7 walk for flexibility. He's just too talented to lose. Also even as he gets older teams with assets pay if he's healthy. Look at what Pierce and KG got. The only concern is he gets hurt and thats not a concern in the NBA. You pay and hope he stays as healthy as he's been over the years.Our young guys will look a lot better playing next to him. Fisher's job is easier. Phil's job is easier. Bring MElo back. Bring in another stud next year. Keep building through the draft and adding young pieces... the team's prior mistakes were no because Melo was here. They were because the people making the decisions sucked.
I know others feel different. Thats ok. I understand the want to move on from this player. I also remember the same with Ewing.. lets usher in the new era of uptempo more athletic bla bla bla. I just want to see the Knicks win. Much easier with Melo here IMO. I think we go back to winning 50 and the Atlantic next year if he stays. Even as currently constructed.
Except Garnetts contract was worth 12 million not 26 million. Melos contract makes sense for some teams not the Knicks. The Knicks dont have the young core to offset Melos money. Dont give me THJ,Larkin, Early and the Greek as a young core. They are at best rotation players
when Garnett was traded to Boston he was making $23.7mm and was 31 years old.
So Melo walks.. your in the "now we have cap space to sign max stars" camp I assume? If thats the case OK, but who are these guys we are signing? If the Knicks have Melo and win 50 games next year they will still be able to add a max guy with Amare and Bargs coming off the books. A full $20mm a year guy. I would think coming to a 50 win team would attract a bigtime player. Thats Phil and Fisher's challenge. However without Melo its looking like a 35ish win season at best. Can you tell me the last time star player(s) signed big contracts with a losing team? Amare? Joe Johnson (I think Deron was already there). Are those the type of guys your shooting for?
dk7th wrote:fishmike you will keep repeating 28/7 as though the league looks the other way at his miserable playoff record, which remains among the worst if not the worst since he began his career. so he has suitors-- since when does the desire correlate with winning titles? it doesn't. but i have seen what he's done here in new york and if he lands with another team then that will be good for new york.carmelo is incorrigible but there will always be some "neighborhood chick" who believes he is worth the trouble to turn into a winner.
jackson knows better which is why he wants to hold melo to the discount melo himself volunteered but is now reneging on. (do you like that he is reneging?) whatever he ends up being paid in new york it will still be too much.
Pretty sure the Bulls, Rockets, Mavs and Lakers looked the other way. But those are NBA cellar dwelling franchises who dont care about winning, just selling some tickets right? Dude one half of your brain literally makes up bullsh!t, the other half of your brain believes it.
dk7th wrote:fishmike you will keep repeating 28/7 as though the league looks the other way at his miserable playoff record, which remains among the worst if not the worst since he began his career. so he has suitors-- since when does the desire correlate with winning titles? it doesn't. but i have seen what he's done here in new york and if he lands with another team then that will be good for new york.carmelo is incorrigible but there will always be some "neighborhood chick" who believes he is worth the trouble to turn into a winner.
jackson knows better which is why he wants to hold melo to the discount melo himself volunteered but is now reneging on. (do you like that he is reneging?) whatever he ends up being paid in new york it will still be too much.
SMDH, dude your post are hilarious sometimes, how on earth are we so sure that melo is asking for the max.
The media reported Rose was part of the recruiting process, then 2 days later a report came out that he just happen to be in the building practicing, and the only thing he did was give melo a pound and hug.
At some point you have to think phil is a smart man, and knows how to formulate a winning culture.
From Day 1 I always said that Melo and woodson will never work, EVER. Woodson is a Heavy Iso coach, and Melo is a heavy Iso player. If woodson was still coaching, I would be praying that melo leaves, but thats not the case. I strongly believe this is the best situation for melo as a player, with the kind of leadership in the front office, and coaching staff, the type of players that phil will surround melo with,the mind set and is going to change.
