Bonn1997 wrote:I'd go to Chicago. It's a much clearer path to the finals. They have a .600 team without him.
Bonn did you even read my post? He can't go to the Bulls they have no money for him... They have to amnesty Boozer just to give him a pay cut, then they have to trade Gibson to free the money necessary to get Melo. The bulls haven't done that. They are instead rumored to sign Pau Gasol.
Sorry I should have read it more carefully. I still think Chi would do what it takes to get him if he made it clear they were his 1st choice
They should. They are the ones that want Melo. Don't assume Phil will accept garbage in a sign and trade.
We already have ThJr so we don't need Snell. We have Early so we don't need McDermott or that Euro dude. We have our own in Thanasis. Boozer can play but we have A mare and Bargs so we have no use for him.
Getting a future Draft pick isn't worth take all that stuff back.
You had me up until THJr is better than Tony Snell. There's a reason McDormett was taken +20picks ahead of Early and it has nothing to do with his boyishly handsome good looks. Kid can ball but has flaws (defense) like any player entering the league. But there is precedent for players of his build and skillset having succeeded in this: Peja Stojakovic. But unlike Stojakovic, McDormett also has a refined low post and midrange game.
As for Thansis, the dude has demonstrated to be a marginal player at best. His skillset (which is non-existant outside of defense) is a dime a dozen in this league, which is how/why Wesley Matthews, Kelenna Azuibuike and the likd went undrafted. "The Euro" aka Nikola Mirotic, on the other hand, offers a skillset that is at a premium. It wouldn't be offbase to call him a Kevin Love clone that is not as prolific a rebounder...the kid is that good.
If we can get him, McDormett, Butler and picks for ourselves, we'd have done quite well.
NardDogNation@ 7/12/2014 11:30 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I would rather lose Melo for nothing than take back the scraps that Chicago throws our way.
Im not enamored with their pieces either. Had they done this trade before the draft It would of been much better. I really dont want Mcdermott, the guy cant defend or put it on the floor.His ceiling Kyle Korver which wouldnt be that bad if it wasnt the center piece in a trade for a 10 time All Star. The Euro is much more interesting to me
I'm higher on McDormett than you are but I will admit that he is risky. I see him as a Peja Stojakovic but he could just as easily turn into a Luke Jackson, Adam Morrison, Joe Alexander, Luke Babbit or some other 6"8' jump shooting white guy that didn't make it, lol. It's why I also preferred to have come to an arrangement before the draft because I thought that players available at 16 and 19 were far more valuable. The future picks should help to make up for that lost opportunity though. Remember, the Bulls have the right to swap picks with the Cavs who.....fuck they just acquired LeBron, lol.
anrst@ 7/12/2014 12:03 PM
Melo is just waiting for the news cycle to open up for him
thought this was a good read about what the Bulls can do to help us clear cap and add some nice assets.
I'd do this deal in a second.
And for anyone concerned about all the draft picks and finding a spot on the roster - you could always trade up in a draft, or build a team out like Boston did where you've got plenty of youthful assets and can trade them away at the right time for the right winners.
Better to trade Melo and have and keep cap room for future stars/deals, and accumulate some assets and try to build out a strong foundation.
thought this was a good read about what the Bulls can do to help us clear cap and add some nice assets.
I'd do this deal in a second.
And for anyone concerned about all the draft picks and finding a spot on the roster - you could always trade up in a draft, or build a team out like Boston did where you've got plenty of youthful assets and can trade them away at the right time for the right winners.
Better to trade Melo and have and keep cap room for future stars/deals, and accumulate some assets and try to build out a strong foundation.
I'd rather be San Antonio than Miami.
+1. But why be one when you can be both? You shouldn't build a team through free agent signings OR draft picks. You should do it with every tool at our disposal.
smackeddog@ 7/12/2014 1:10 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:I'd go to Chicago. It's a much clearer path to the finals. They have a .600 team without him.
My worry with Chicago is I see Noah and Rose as both at risk of breaking down. I like Noah's passion and game, but he has played a lot of minutes, and had quite a few injuries. Rose looked awful last season, who knows what he looks like after yet another year away?
Plus there's some sort of power struggle going on with their coach and GM- I like Thibs a lot, but I wonder if he gets fired next year for BS reasons.
Bonn1997@ 7/12/2014 5:56 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:I'd go to Chicago. It's a much clearer path to the finals. They have a .600 team without him.
My worry with Chicago is I see Noah and Rose as both at risk of breaking down. I like Noah's passion and game, but he has played a lot of minutes, and had quite a few injuries. Rose looked awful last season, who knows what he looks like after yet another year away?
Plus there's some sort of power struggle going on with their coach and GM- I like Thibs a lot, but I wonder if he gets fired next year for BS reasons.
Oh I'm not counting on Rose. They're a .600 team without him and they're only competing in the east though. Anyone can break down but you have a teammate currently playing at the level of a top 5 MVP candidate if you go there. Lebron's played a lot of minutes too after all.
yellowboy90@ 7/12/2014 6:17 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:I'd go to Chicago. It's a much clearer path to the finals. They have a .600 team without him.
My worry with Chicago is I see Noah and Rose as both at risk of breaking down. I like Noah's passion and game, but he has played a lot of minutes, and had quite a few injuries. Rose looked awful last season, who knows what he looks like after yet another year away?
Plus there's some sort of power struggle going on with their coach and GM- I like Thibs a lot, but I wonder if he gets fired next year for BS reasons.
Oh I'm not counting on Rose. They're a .600 team without him and they're only competing in the east though. Anyone can break down but you have a teammate currently playing at the level of a top 5 MVP candidate if you go there. Lebron's played a lot of minutes too after all.
True but he is not coached by Thibs and does not have Plantar issues. If it wasn't a foot issue I would not be worried. Foot issues and big men do not mix.
they are the better team though. If I was in his shoes I would just be worried.
Bonn1997@ 7/12/2014 6:59 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:I'd go to Chicago. It's a much clearer path to the finals. They have a .600 team without him.
My worry with Chicago is I see Noah and Rose as both at risk of breaking down. I like Noah's passion and game, but he has played a lot of minutes, and had quite a few injuries. Rose looked awful last season, who knows what he looks like after yet another year away?
Plus there's some sort of power struggle going on with their coach and GM- I like Thibs a lot, but I wonder if he gets fired next year for BS reasons.
Oh I'm not counting on Rose. They're a .600 team without him and they're only competing in the east though. Anyone can break down but you have a teammate currently playing at the level of a top 5 MVP candidate if you go there. Lebron's played a lot of minutes too after all.
True but he is not coached by Thibs and does not have Plantar issues. If it wasn't a foot issue I would not be worried. Foot issues and big men do not mix.
they are the better team though. If I was in his shoes I would just be worried.
Well there's plenty to worry about with our team too.
