Great as PG Kylie and Kevin Love is made out to be none of them has proved anything yet Teamwise
Other than meeting NBA criteria of 25%-40% of their NBA years being fragile or simply said being on IL.
That ain't going to change until both play 70 games out of 82 game NBA yr. And
King Lebron James presence isn't going to change their health woes until playoff-less Kylie and
Kevin Love prove it.
Paper stats on how great or talented Cavaliers will be in NBA east is going to take more time than
Experts realize. No pressure on LBJ
All pressures is on youths Kevin and Kylie.
Back in my day guys lesser i.e. John Starks, Ron Artest, James Worthy
And HOF Knick Bernard King played with broken hands, fingers , arms and noses.
These guys today can't stay healthy can't play with poke on eyes,
Sprain fingers, bump in nose and cannot prove to be durable cause of $contract and their money already in the banks.
NBA bodes well for current Knicks and Nets short term prospective,
Cavs will be good but lets not get carried away with Kylie and Kevin Love
Whom neither plays any defense and if the don't win at least NBA east in 2 years no one
Will ever want to hear health is as an excuse!
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I don't fear the Cavs...Love has never been in the playoffs...he's had winning teams but still was never healthy enough to keep his team in the mix. Kyrie hasn't made his team better either. He's had decent talent, especially last season.
Anyway, I want to get back in the playoffs so we can have a shot at competing with these guys. Love plays zero defense...Kyrie needs the rock in his hand. We'll see how good these guys really are. They are basically souped up versions Drew Gooden and Booby Gibson. They could win but I don't fear these guys. Our current team could compete with them if everything plays out the right way.
Can't wait to start this season
I have the Bulls at the top then the Cavs and the Knicks in 3rd in the East. I know some in the media and some fans have the Knicks way lower, but I think this team has the talent and now the system to get the most out of the players we have.
The Cavs will have some issues with chemistry and who knows what the new coach is going to do. Still with Lebron, Kyrie and Love they should be able to win a ton of games on talent alone. Bulls are tougher and have a built in culture that we know works and just needed offensive firepower. I can't see the Cavs beating the Bulls this year.
DJMUSIC wrote:Great as PG Kylie and Kevin Love is made out to be none of them has proved anything yet Teamwise
Other than meeting NBA criteria of 25%-40% of their NBA years being fragile or simply said being on IL.That ain't going to change until both play 70 games out of 82 game NBA yr. And
King Lebron James presence isn't going to change their health woes until playoff-less Kylie and
Kevin Love prove it.
Paper stats on how great or talented Cavaliers will be in NBA east is going to take more time than
Experts realize. No pressure on LBJ
All pressures is on youths Kevin and Kylie.
Back in my day guys lesser i.e. John Starks, Ron Artest, James Worthy
And HOF Knick Bernard King played with broken hands, fingers , arms and noses.
These guys today can't stay healthy can't play with poke on eyes,
Sprain fingers, bump in nose and cannot prove to be durable cause of $contract and their money already in the banks.
NBA bodes well for current Knicks and Nets short term prospective,
Cavs will be good but lets not get carried away with Kylie and Kevin Love
Whom neither plays any defense and if the don't win at least NBA east in 2 years no one
Will ever want to hear health is as an excuse!
THats some profound stuff there.
I think Love will adapt better to playing with Lebron than Irving will. He'll be open for the jumpers off drives by Irving and James and get his points inside based on getting position- not having to take 10+ seconds to dribble work his way inside.
Irving may be one of those offensive players who needs the ball so he can get into an offensive flow that allows him to make his shots. I don't necessarily see him as a guy waiting around for someone else to give him a pass for an open shot.
Looked up the Waiters/Irving problems, and one of the issues was Waiters feeling he was left out of the offense by Irving. Actually led to them being separated more often in terms of when each played.
James will have his work cut out for him bringing the Cavs together, but I suppose that if anyone can do it, he can.
Based on this story- James also seems to be getting ready to maximize his speed on the court- seems to have lost a lot of weight in preparation for playing next year.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/8/5/...
WaltLongmire wrote:I think Love will adapt better to playing with Lebron than Irving will. He'll be open for the jumpers off drives by Irving and James and get his points inside based on getting position- not having to take 10+ seconds to dribble work his way inside.Irving may be one of those offensive players who needs the ball so he can get into an offensive flow that allows him to make his shots. I don't necessarily see him as a guy waiting around for someone else to give him a pass for an open shot.
Looked up the Waiters/Irving problems, and one of the issues was Waiters feeling he was left out of the offense by Irving. Actually led to them being separated more often in terms of when each played.
James will have his work cut out for him bringing the Cavs together, but I suppose that if anyone can do it, he can.
Based on this story- James also seems to be getting ready to maximize his speed on the court- seems to have lost a lot of weight in preparation for playing next year.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/8/5/...
Yeah but watch when near playoffs either Love or Kylie to be out or injured,
Write it guaranteed.
These stars today are paper thin athletes, hurt and non durable
Sorry Cleveland is gonna do damage.
Keep in mind quality players remain
Dion Waiters
Thompson
Varejao
Mike Miller
Ray Allen will more than likely end up signing there.
If Bulls remain healthy they should be the team to beat but Cavs have a winning recipe on paper
nixluva wrote:I have the Bulls at the top then the Cavs and the Knicks in 3rd in the East. I know some in the media and some fans have the Knicks way lower, but I think this team has the talent and now the system to get the most out of the players we have. The Cavs will have some issues with chemistry and who knows what the new coach is going to do. Still with Lebron, Kyrie and Love they should be able to win a ton of games on talent alone. Bulls are tougher and have a built in culture that we know works and just needed offensive firepower. I can't see the Cavs beating the Bulls this year.
The Nets could be really good. Bropez and DWill are supposed to be healthy. A Plumlee and Bropez frontline could be dominant.
Cleveland is going to be nasty, and the team fits better and is way deeper than Miami did. They do still need another big because Varejao absolutely can't be relied on. But if they can get a decent backup big and if Waiters or Delledova can handle the 2 they should absolutely be the favorites to come out of the East.
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:I have the Bulls at the top then the Cavs and the Knicks in 3rd in the East. I know some in the media and some fans have the Knicks way lower, but I think this team has the talent and now the system to get the most out of the players we have. The Cavs will have some issues with chemistry and who knows what the new coach is going to do. Still with Lebron, Kyrie and Love they should be able to win a ton of games on talent alone. Bulls are tougher and have a built in culture that we know works and just needed offensive firepower. I can't see the Cavs beating the Bulls this year.
The Nets could be really good. Bropez and DWill are supposed to be healthy. A Plumlee and Bropez frontline could be dominant.
Don't sleep on Jarrett Jack he can be a real solid addition comparable to Calderon.
Depends if they get GSW and Pacers Jack or Cleveland Jack
F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:I have the Bulls at the top then the Cavs and the Knicks in 3rd in the East. I know some in the media and some fans have the Knicks way lower, but I think this team has the talent and now the system to get the most out of the players we have. The Cavs will have some issues with chemistry and who knows what the new coach is going to do. Still with Lebron, Kyrie and Love they should be able to win a ton of games on talent alone. Bulls are tougher and have a built in culture that we know works and just needed offensive firepower. I can't see the Cavs beating the Bulls this year.
The Nets could be really good. Bropez and DWill are supposed to be healthy. A Plumlee and Bropez frontline could be dominant.
Don't sleep on Jarrett Jack he can be a real solid addition comparable to Calderon.
Depends if they get GSW and Pacers jack or Cleveland Jack
Jack was a great pickup. Especially with a guy like Williams playing ahead of him.
EnySpree wrote:I don't fear the Cavs...Love has never been in the playoffs...he's had winning teams but still was never healthy enough to keep his team in the mix. Kyrie hasn't made his team better either. He's had decent talent, especially last season.Anyway, I want to get back in the playoffs so we can have a shot at competing with these guys. Love plays zero defense...Kyrie needs the rock in his hand. We'll see how good these guys really are. They are basically souped up versions Drew Gooden and Booby Gibson. They could win but I don't fear these guys. Our current team could compete with them if everything plays out the right way.
Can't wait to start this season
Dude, souped up golden and Gibson? That's like saying Jordan is just a souped up version of tony Campbell.
Cavs are clear favorites for title.
When did waiters and Thompson become quality players? I guess Thompson does do some glass work but what else does he do? He is okay I guess but what does Waiters give you?
LOL, Love is about 1000x better than Drew Friggin Gooden. And Irving is 1000x better than Booby Gibson. Sure. , they are young but come on they just hit the basketball version of Powerball 300 million dollar jackpot playing with Lebron James the most inclusive, unselfish basketball superstar probably ever. He is the ultimate glue guy and the Cavs are going to wreck the eastern conference next season.
H1AND1 wrote:LOL, Love is about 1000x better than Drew Friggin Gooden. And Irving is 1000x better than Booby Gibson. Sure. , they are young but come on they just hit the basketball version of Powerball 300 million dollar jackpot playing with Lebron James the most inclusive, unselfish basketball superstar probably ever. He is the ultimate glue guy and the Cavs are going to wreck the eastern conference next season.
Yea but K.Love ain't better than Carmelo Anthony
If Love immediately is a wade sidekick to L.James
Let them win nba east title 1st much less division
Let us see when Noah/bulls PF slap some D
On Klove.
Will take time to gel
yellowboy90 wrote:When did waiters and Thompson become quality players? I guess Thompson does do some glass work but what else does he do? He is okay I guess but what does Waiters give you?
I'm guessing the same thing as THJR going by All-Star performance.
Comparable numbers between the two, slight edge Waiters not by much.
F500ONE wrote:Sorry Cleveland is gonna do damage.Keep in mind quality players remain
Dion Waiters
Thompson
Varejao
Mike Miller
Ray Allen will more than likely end up signing there.
If Bulls remain healthy they should be the team to beat but Cavs have a winning recipe on paper
Yup hate to agree, but it's true they are way deeper than Miami was. Plus Marion may end up there as well.
East is gonna be interesting and won't be surprised if Washington and Charlotte (very good NYC backcourt) are in the mix.
Think the Knicks will be a 5/6 seed.
