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nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Not sure but Dub fans probably feel incredibly optimistic
They improved the past 2yrs while/////Mark Jackson was fighting past love affairs, coaches, and mgmt
And they won 50+gms last year
Replace Jackson with Kerr and THE TRIANGLEOlympic experience of both Curry and Klay
Owner passionate about winning a chipWest possibly wide open, maybe they feel 7-12gm improvement from last year and a 1-2seed finish heading into playoffs
How is the West "wide open"? You think the Warriors can finish 1 or 2 in the West?
Who is clearly better than the Warriors if you factor in the Triangle?Keep in mind only 8gms separated them from being a 2 seed
Adding Livingston and Rush along with Barnes having a breakout season why not?Does the Triangle affect only work on the East team and not the West
The West isn't wide open as you stated. It's freakin tough and congested with good teams. They had 7 50 win teams and Dallas won 49!!! GS was a 6 seed and it was a really close fight but let's not make stuff up about it being wide open. If they struggle even a little bit to adjust to this new style of play that could be huge and keep them from being a 1 or 2 seed as you seem to think they have a chance to do. You're talking about a 60 win team. You can't have a slow start so better hope Kerr gets this right.
Why are you high on the impact of the Triangle with the Warriors and not the Knicks? The Warriors are a very good team. It's hard to know how much the Triangle will impact their roster. Kerr isn't going to run a strict Triangle Offense. He's doing a kind of hybrid thing. He's using other sets like "Horns". It will be very interesting to see how he does things. His team is slanted towards the PG spot and he's gonna have to have an offense where his PG can have the ball in his hands, which is counter to the Triangle's normal focus.
The Knicks situation is different. This team underachieved and has a lot of room to improve having NOTHING to do with the Triangle!!! If they simply played up to their abilities like they did to close out the year they would've won a ton more games. They showed that by going 16-7 to finish the year with no Triangle involved. This is part of what we've been trying to tell you. The Knicks have a huge upside compared to what we saw last year. Better leadership, players, coaching and system are a lot of areas of improvement. GS was closer to their max than the Knicks where. The impact of changes may not be as great since they already were playing well. Still it's possible that GS could improve a lot and everything goes perfectly. Just remember that they play in the West and not the East. Even with the East getting a little better they're not as good as the teams in the West.
If you go look back at our previous seasons, the back half
You'll see some similar trends
You're now allowing the finish to shape your overall perspective of the teamI'm not, you are what your record says you are
If the West is what you say it is, in terms of competitive balanceWell we play 32 of our games against many of those juggernauts
Hence if Warriors will struggle out that wayNo room for slippage even more so for us
That leaves the EastLet me guess you feel we'll run through our Conference with ease
Okay so when I showed how we did last year in splits across conferencesAsking to place victories where you feel so confidently in improvements/////
Why not say who we'll season best againstWe'll surely have to win several season series in the East, you realize this correct?
The West being "wide open" IMO means any team after the Spurs has a legit shotIf things break right, there wasn't great separation between 2-8
You realize the Dallas team you laud Jose playing onTaking the Spurs to 7gms, was an 8th seed right
I see what you guys are saying. Perhaps in my mind I just didn't quite understand the term wide open properly. For some reason for me I was taking it to be a very tough conference where you really can't have any hiccups and expect to have a chance to be a 1 or 2 seed. You pretty much have to be on point to get that high cuz the level of competition is stiff. I do get the point that all the teams are good and much closer in talent level and thus you could say any team is capable of moving up. Yes if things break right any team could move up. I do believe tho that there's no margin for error. A team like GS trying all this new stuff with a new coach won't have the luxury of stumbling out the gate of they'll drop real fast and may not be able to catch up.
GS has to be careful not to be caught from behind as well. It's not a static situation. So while they are hoping to make advances they have other good teams that aren't that far off from them. Not much separation from GS, Mem, Dal and Phx. Like I said they can't stumble for any serious period of time.
Western W L PCT GB CONF DIV HOME ROAD L 10 STREAK
San Antonio 62 20 0.756 0.0 38-14 12-4 32-9 30-11 6-4 L 2
Oklahoma City 59 23 0.720 3.0 36-16 11-5 34-7 25-16 6-4 W 1
L.A. Clippers 57 25 0.695 5.0 36-16 12-4 34-7 23-18 7-3 L 1
Houston 54 28 0.659 8.0 31-21 11-5 33-8 21-20 5-5 L 1
Portland 54 28 0.659 8.0 31-21 13-3 31-10 23-18 9-1 W 5
Golden State 51 31 0.622 11.0 31-21 11-5 27-14 24-17 6-4 W 2
Memphis 50 32 0.610 12.0 29-23 4-12 27-14 23-18 7-3 W 5
Dallas 49 33 0.598 13.0 29-23 9-7 26-15 23-18 6-4 L 1
Phoenix 48 34 0.585 14.0 28-24 8-8 26-15 22-19 5-5 W 1
Neither can we
I think DK has been predicting a slow start
After the schedule came out I recall you made a post
Saying we may start off slow
In case you didn't know if we start off slow
I'll translate this to be first month out the gate slow
We'll play 26 of the remaining 64 games against West teams
Go ahead and think we can do this while reaching close to 50wins
The East is no more "wide open" than the West
For us to move from 37 wins to 50 wins
Than for Golden State to move from 50 wins to 58-59 wins
Using the Triangle System
nixluva wrote:Slow in the East verses slow in the West is a big difference. I don't think there are as many teams that will run away from us in the East if we did start somewhat slow. By Slow I don't mean like last year which was an unmitigated disaster. That's not slow that was just losing. It's gonna be an interesting thing to watch with these teams. GS is a very talented team and I like what Kerr is trying to do. I just don't now if they can get to 1 or 2 seed even with the move to a bit of the Triangle. They may not have as much of a strict Triangle style as we have due to the make up of the roster. We don't have a Steph Curry.
So Kerr can teach Triangle and another system due to Curry factor?
That would make Kerr more diverse wouldn't it
Warriors don't have Melo either
We supposedly have a very unique talent ourselves
Wouldn't this call for some Triangle modification tweaking sophistication
Let's be more reasonable here
There will only be about 2-3 teams in the East reaching 50 wins or more
We are not 1 of those teams
Now if you want to scale back and say we'll improve from 37 wins
To getting enough wins to make the playoffs whatever that may be
Okay maybe, if everything breaks right
I still have my druthers
The East overall is much better than you think
The West will find this out more than anyone
F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:Slow in the East verses slow in the West is a big difference. I don't think there are as many teams that will run away from us in the East if we did start somewhat slow. By Slow I don't mean like last year which was an unmitigated disaster. That's not slow that was just losing. It's gonna be an interesting thing to watch with these teams. GS is a very talented team and I like what Kerr is trying to do. I just don't now if they can get to 1 or 2 seed even with the move to a bit of the Triangle. They may not have as much of a strict Triangle style as we have due to the make up of the roster. We don't have a Steph Curry.So Kerr can teach Triangle and another system due to Curry factor?
That would make Kerr more diverse wouldn't it
Warriors don't have Melo eitherWe supposedly have a very unique talent ourselves
Wouldn't this call for some Triangle modification tweaking sophisticationLet's be more reasonable here
There will only be about 2-3 teams in the East reaching 50 wins or moreWe are not 1 of those teams
Now if you want to scale back and say we'll improve from 37 winsTo getting enough wins to make the playoffs whatever that may be
Okay maybe, if everything breaks rightI still have my druthers
The East overall is much better than you thinkThe West will find this out more than anyone
Melo is one of the most tailor made players to be in the Triangle. PG's are diminished in their role in the Triangle in terms of being ball dominant. The entire point of the Triangle is to get the ball out of the PG's hands and have as many players touch the ball as possible. They want to keep things moving and so you don't even need a PG in order to run the Triangle effectively. Phil actually played without a PG in his starting lineup when he used Ron Harper in the back court.
I'm not saying that Steph can't play in the Triangle. That's stupid, but you're not running a traditional Triangle offense with a ball dominant PG doing all the things he would usually do and still call it a Triangle offense. Kerr will likely want to mix it up so that it fits his team. Here in NY Phil was able to tweak the team roster to fit the Triangle better. Kerr is dealing with a team that wasn't built to play the Triangle. Doesn't mean he won't do a good job or that they won't win. Just saying they will be a bit different due to personnel.
Why you think the Knicks can't win 50 games is based solely on your own opinion and from what i've seen nothing really based on any reasoned explanation. It's possible in some peoples minds that the Knicks could win 45 games which isn't gangbusters and i'm just 5 more wins above that. It's not like i'm way out there. The East is better but let's not exaggerate the issue. There are some brutal teams in the East still. I don't know why you are so convinced that the Knicks can't win 50 games. If they win 48 will you be shocked? They have enough talent to be able to do that. It's not some huge number of wins that is unattainable. I definitely don't see this team repeating a 37 win season that's for sure.
Phil came. He saw a path. He will illuminate it for us when the time is right.
VDesai wrote:Jackson disciples on their own haven't been that succesful as head coaches (Cleamons and Rambis are perfect examples), but some Jackson disciples with the real thing lurking in the background gives me a lot more confidence.
I always think it's amazing how many good coaches came from working under Pat Riley- think he must have by far the most in league history?
smackeddog wrote:VDesai wrote:Jackson disciples on their own haven't been that succesful as head coaches (Cleamons and Rambis are perfect examples), but some Jackson disciples with the real thing lurking in the background gives me a lot more confidence.I always think it's amazing how many good coaches came from working under Pat Riley- think he must have by far the most in league history?
Larry Brown's "Tree" is also quite bountiful!
Roy Williams, Bill Self, Alvin Gentry was an assistant for Brown on the 1988 National Championship team that also included future San Antonio Spurs General Manager R. C. Buford as an assistant coach. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich also spent a year as a volunteer to Brown at Kansas. Brown took all three with him to San Antonio when he became the Spurs coach in 1988. Also, current University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari was an assistant under Brown at Kansas. Former Kansas players Mark Turgeon and Tad Boyle, coaches of the University of Maryland, College Park and the University of Colorado at Boulder respectively, played for Brown at Kansas.
Danny Manning, who played for Brown at Kansas from 1984 to 1988, served as the Jayhawks' assistant coach under Self from 2007 to 2012 and is now the head coach at Wake Forest University. Kevin Pritchard, the starting point guard on Kansas' 1988 NCAA Division I men's championship team with Manning and Brown, was coach/general manager of the ABA's Kansas City Knights as well as interim coach/general manager of the Portland Trail Blazers. He is now GM in Indy.
Former New York Knicks head coach Mike Woodson served as an assistant to Brown during Brown's brief time coaching the Detroit Pistons. Woodson left after the 2004 NBA championship to become head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.
Under phil is Kerr and Phish as well. Cleamons and Rambis actually got head coaching gigs which itself is impressive! There are not many jobs to be. Off the top of my Head Phil has placed Brian Shaw,Paxton (Front office) Kerr, Fish, Rambis, Frank Hamblin (interm for Rudy T.) Cartright (brief), Walton and Cleamons. Thats Nine!!! Lets put it this way, while Jordan was going to be wealthy with or with out phil, It wasn't until PHil came to Bulls in Jordans Sixth Season, and did not win his first chip until his seventh season. That set the wage scale thru the roof on and off the court and perhaps we can say Jackson's tree extends to Jordan, the first player to own a team!!!!
No other coach has a player who went on to own his own team!!!
Phil's tree is not littered with success but the guys got the gigs and it demonstrates how tough it is to assemble the right formula for front office to be in synch with its coach and construction of a proper roster to impliment a system guy. Patience is not a virtue many owners have!!!!!
Nalod wrote:smackeddog wrote:VDesai wrote:Jackson disciples on their own haven't been that succesful as head coaches (Cleamons and Rambis are perfect examples), but some Jackson disciples with the real thing lurking in the background gives me a lot more confidence.I always think it's amazing how many good coaches came from working under Pat Riley- think he must have by far the most in league history?
Larry Brown's "Tree" is also quite bountiful!
Roy Williams, Bill Self, Alvin Gentry was an assistant for Brown on the 1988 National Championship team that also included future San Antonio Spurs General Manager R. C. Buford as an assistant coach. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich also spent a year as a volunteer to Brown at Kansas. Brown took all three with him to San Antonio when he became the Spurs coach in 1988. Also, current University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari was an assistant under Brown at Kansas. Former Kansas players Mark Turgeon and Tad Boyle, coaches of the University of Maryland, College Park and the University of Colorado at Boulder respectively, played for Brown at Kansas.
Danny Manning, who played for Brown at Kansas from 1984 to 1988, served as the Jayhawks' assistant coach under Self from 2007 to 2012 and is now the head coach at Wake Forest University. Kevin Pritchard, the starting point guard on Kansas' 1988 NCAA Division I men's championship team with Manning and Brown, was coach/general manager of the ABA's Kansas City Knights as well as interim coach/general manager of the Portland Trail Blazers. He is now GM in Indy.
Former New York Knicks head coach Mike Woodson served as an assistant to Brown during Brown's brief time coaching the Detroit Pistons. Woodson left after the 2004 NBA championship to become head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.Under phil is Kerr and Phish as well. Cleamons and Rambis actually got head coaching gigs which itself is impressive! There are not many jobs to be. Off the top of my Head Phil has placed Brian Shaw,Paxton (Front office) Kerr, Fish, Rambis, Frank Hamblin (interm for Rudy T.) Cartright (brief), Walton and Cleamons. Thats Nine!!! Lets put it this way, while Jordan was going to be wealthy with or with out phil, It wasn't until PHil came to Bulls in Jordans Sixth Season, and did not win his first chip until his seventh season. That set the wage scale thru the roof on and off the court and perhaps we can say Jackson's tree extends to Jordan, the first player to own a team!!!!
No other coach has a player who went on to own his own team!!!Phil's tree is not littered with success but the guys got the gigs and it demonstrates how tough it is to assemble the right formula for front office to be in synch with its coach and construction of a proper roster to impliment a system guy. Patience is not a virtue many owners have!!!!!
the difference is, none of those names assemble a back office from top to bottom, this is a unique situation we have here. Were talking about a president hiring everybody of his liking. No owner favorites, or coachng favorites. I'm sure D fisher was cool with all the hirings, but this is a recipe for complete success.
Now in NY we have a Prez/GM who is in 100% support of the Coach and is providing support and tailoring the roster to make it all work. Phil's other assistants who have gone on to coach haven't had that.
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:Slow in the East verses slow in the West is a big difference. I don't think there are as many teams that will run away from us in the East if we did start somewhat slow. By Slow I don't mean like last year which was an unmitigated disaster. That's not slow that was just losing. It's gonna be an interesting thing to watch with these teams. GS is a very talented team and I like what Kerr is trying to do. I just don't now if they can get to 1 or 2 seed even with the move to a bit of the Triangle. They may not have as much of a strict Triangle style as we have due to the make up of the roster. We don't have a Steph Curry.So Kerr can teach Triangle and another system due to Curry factor?
That would make Kerr more diverse wouldn't it
Warriors don't have Melo eitherWe supposedly have a very unique talent ourselves
Wouldn't this call for some Triangle modification tweaking sophisticationLet's be more reasonable here
There will only be about 2-3 teams in the East reaching 50 wins or moreWe are not 1 of those teams
Now if you want to scale back and say we'll improve from 37 winsTo getting enough wins to make the playoffs whatever that may be
Okay maybe, if everything breaks rightI still have my druthers
The East overall is much better than you thinkThe West will find this out more than anyone
Why you think the Knicks can't win 50 games is based solely on your own opinion and from what i've seen nothing really based on any reasoned explanation. It's possible in some peoples minds that the Knicks could win 45 games which isn't gangbusters and i'm just 5 more wins above that. It's not like i'm way out there. The East is better but let's not exaggerate the issue. There are some brutal teams in the East still. I don't know why you are so convinced that the Knicks can't win 50 games. If they win 48 will you be shocked? They have enough talent to be able to do that. It's not some huge number of wins that is unattainable. I definitely don't see this team repeating a 37 win season that's for sure.
Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle because
He's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremost
Or we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
If anything THJR's game is tailor made for the triangle
Curry is great for the Triangle actually
Just because he plays point guard and handles the ball a lot does not mean
Kerr will have to rewrite the tri-system for Curry
He's a ball mover hence his 8.5ast/avg last year and
He can shoot the rock on the perimeter allowing interior operation for system
Curry also has some two guard in him, quick release, can get his own shot, very good off ball
In the end you haven't done a good job explaining how we will win 50gms other
Than saying we have Phil, Fish, Calderon
I'm considering the entire landscape of the NBA
You're considering the Knicks backyard
Not what HAS been, but what CAN be?
They'll play games and provide answers.
CrushAlot wrote:Fisher has a mix of guys that have been on championship staffs and up and comers. He played for two of the guys. Kerr has one guy with head coaching experience but it was a guy that worked under him in Phoenix. From a distance it looks like Kerr picked guys he is comfortable being over. Fisher/Phil picked guys that will be comfortable telling/helping Fisher through some situations. I think Fisher has the better staff. Warriors have the better roster.
Very reasonable breakdown.
Gentry and Adams are about as season assistance as one can get, no pushovers
But I think Cleamons' close connection with Phil gives us a very slight edge.
No question they have a better roster
I'll be watching Curry and Kerr to see if Triangle
Is implemented and players prove effective
Curry will be a potential free agent in 2017
So if there is any doubt about his fit in the triangle
Well I guess we should be suspect in pursuing him then
He's already hinted he may be open to leaving the bay area to play back home[Charlotte]
F500ONE wrote:Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle becauseHe's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremostOr we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. Melo has the kind of talent that is perfect for the Triangle. The Triangle benefits players who can be effective from different spots on the floor because the motion in the offense puts players in different spots. He can be effective in any spot on the floor. It's called the Triple Post offense and really a player like Melo is always going to be a threat no matter where he ends up with the ball.
Melo is one of the best catch and shoot players. Melo can pass the ball and he can move fluidly. He's not really going to have to learn any new skills, but of course he's not going to be playing the way he was when he wasn't playing in this system. That's just common sense. It doesn't mean he lacks the skills to do it tho.
This coach explains why Melo should be very good in the Triangle
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle becauseHe's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremostOr we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.
More like you have no idea what you're talking about
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From the horses mouth at the conference on Stephen Curry
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This conference took place right before we hired him
Yet he didn't mention Melo.
Now you can carry on as you wish
But everyone sees this massive truth revealed
The constant Youtube drops from you are so adorable, keep em coming
F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle becauseHe's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremostOr we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.More like you have no idea what you're talking about
http://seen.co/event/mit-sloan-sports-an...
From the horses mouth at the conference on Stephen CurryJavascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/statuses/439534838232907776
Click here to view the TweetThis conference took place right before we hired him
Yet he didn't mention Melo.
Now you can carry on as you wish
But everyone sees this massive truth revealed
The constant Youtube drops from you are so adorable, keep em coming
Steph Curry is a great shooter and overall offensive player so of course Phil would like him. What does that have to do with Melo and whether he has the skills to be great in the Triangle offense??? As usual you're confusing the issue. It's not whether there could be a BETTER player for the Triangle in the NBA. The issue is whether Melo and his skills would work well in the Triangle. Phil CHOSE to come here and he CHOSE to resign Melo. If Phil was as convinced as you that Melo is a poor fit NO WAY he makes the decisions he has in coming here and resigning Melo as a priority. Stop trying so hard to one up me with dumb observations like this. It's not exactly a news flash that Curry is a great offensive player. You just stated the obvious, which is that a player as talented as Curry is gonna be liked by top coaches. What coach wouldn't like a player like Curry???
You didn't refute anything I posted you just added another point that really has NOTHING to do with whether MELO can play in the Triangle. If Curry can, great, but SO WHAT? How does that impact my points about Melo? You seem to always try and do that. I make a point and you change the subject by bringing up a mostly unrelated point that doesn't refute or disprove anything I said.
Kerr is tweaking the Triangle and adding other plays because he knows that the normal flow of the Triangle doesn't feature the PG in all the ways the Curry can excel. Go and name the PG's who Phil has had that plays like Curry??? Now as a purely skilled offensive player, Curry could operate more like an MJ or Kobe with some tweaks. He's not gonna be used the way Fisher and many other PJax PG's were used at the PG spot. Still this has NOTHING to do with how Melo's game fits the Triangle.
F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Fisher has a mix of guys that have been on championship staffs and up and comers. He played for two of the guys. Kerr has one guy with head coaching experience but it was a guy that worked under him in Phoenix. From a distance it looks like Kerr picked guys he is comfortable being over. Fisher/Phil picked guys that will be comfortable telling/helping Fisher through some situations. I think Fisher has the better staff. Warriors have the better roster.
Very reasonable breakdown.Gentry and Adams are about as season assistance as one can get, no pushovers
But I think Cleamons' close connection with Phil gives us a very slight edge.No question they have a better roster
I'll be watching Curry and Kerr to see if TriangleIs implemented and players prove effective
Curry will be a potential free agent in 2017So if there is any doubt about his fit in the triangle
Well I guess we should be suspect in pursuing him thenHe's already hinted he may be open to leaving the bay area to play back home[Charlotte]
They asked him if he'd like to play at home. They all say "yes"!!! Like a rock star screems "Your the greatest crowd" and everyone eats that crap up!!!!!
Durant didn't just blurt it out either, he was asked in an interview!!!
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Kerr is tweaking the Triangle and adding other plays because he knows that the normal flow of the Triangle doesn't feature the PG in all the ways the Curry can excel.nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle becauseHe's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremostOr we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.More like you have no idea what you're talking about
http://seen.co/event/mit-sloan-sports-an...
From the horses mouth at the conference on Stephen CurryJavascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/statuses/439534838232907776
Click here to view the TweetThis conference took place right before we hired him
Yet he didn't mention Melo.
Now you can carry on as you wish
But everyone sees this massive truth revealed
The constant Youtube drops from you are so adorable, keep em coming
Bottomline, in this thread you implied Curry is not as ideal for the triangle
I posted a direct quote from our beloved and trusted Phil
Who has told you in the past Curry is a profile beyond for the triangle
Because if Curry were here, your illogical reasoning would conclude Fisher would have to rework much of the triangle for Curry
No way would you succumb to such reply
Curry is gonna make it seamless for Kerr to implement it whenever he decides to run it
The tweaking of his offense has more to do with remaining roster outside of Curry
Show me a quote from Phil that says Melo is tailor made for this system
Last time I checked Fisher is "tweaking" things so Melo doesn't chit the bed in second halves
F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Kerr is tweaking the Triangle and adding other plays because he knows that the normal flow of the Triangle doesn't feature the PG in all the ways the Curry can excel.nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Actually Melo's game is not tailor made for the Triangle becauseHe's not a ball mover nor does he move fluidly within an offense himself
He will have to make major adjustments first and foremostOr we will have to tweak it some to fit his habits and tendencies better
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.More like you have no idea what you're talking about
http://seen.co/event/mit-sloan-sports-an...
From the horses mouth at the conference on Stephen CurryJavascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/statuses/439534838232907776
Click here to view the TweetThis conference took place right before we hired him
Yet he didn't mention Melo.
Now you can carry on as you wish
But everyone sees this massive truth revealed
The constant Youtube drops from you are so adorable, keep em coming
Bottomline, in this thread you implied Curry is not as ideal for the triangleI posted a direct quote from our beloved and trusted Phil
Who has told you in the past Curry is a profile beyond for the triangleBecause if Curry were here, your illogical reasoning would conclude Fisher would have to rework much of the triangle for Curry
No way would you succumb to such replyCurry is gonna make it seamless for Kerr to implement it whenever he decides to run it
The tweaking of his offense has more to do with remaining roster outside of CurryShow me a quote from Phil that says Melo is tailor made for this system
Last time I checked Fisher is "tweaking" things so Melo doesn't chit the bed in second halves
You simply misunderstood what I was saying. Kerr is tweaking the Triangle to better fit Curry and his skills. The standard triangle PG is not asked to be as prominent as Curry is in his normal role. I asked you to show me a PG Phil has had in his career that was like Curry? You're not actually addressing that. My point is only that the main tenants of the Triangle gets the ball out of the PG's hands very quickly and other players are making decisions and passes. It's not normally a ball dominant PG offense. I never said Curry would stink in the Triangle. I just said that they have to tweak it in order for Curry to still do many of the things he normally does. He's not BJ, Paxson, Harper, Kerr, Shaw or Fisher. Curry had a Usage of 28.3%. He would be used differently than the usual PG in the Triangle.
You want to go off on a rant about me and Curry and I really don't make a huge deal about Curry at all in my posts. Any Guard that can shoot and pass like Curry is gonna be good in any system. They just have to make a tweak to how they run the plays, which Kerr is doing. I'm sure Phil would make similar tweaks if he had to but in the past he hasn't really had any ball dominant PG's. You're talking about a man who started a SG as his PG for years!!! How do you explain Ron Harper or Shaw??? The Truth is that Phil likes talented BB players and Curry has the kind of talent that any coach would love.
None of this has anything to do with Melo and how his game fits the Triangle. Melo may never have played this way, but neither had MJ or Kobe, that's not the issue. It does matter if he has the literal skills to be effective in the Triangle. Melo can pass and he can handle the ball. Melo is a great catch and shoot player as well as being able to work off screens and post up. He's got a complete game which in the Triangle means he can be anywhere and be effective. I'm not saying he's the best Triangle player ever. He does have a game that should slide right into many of the typical options in the triangle and that's what I mean by tailor made. He'd be a great Pinch Post or low post in the Triangle. He can roam and catch and shoot from anywhere.