EnySpree wrote:Well Shump was posting pics of his vacations, of his music and of his brand where he actually has a logo where he's selling merchandise....fans are telling him he needs to be working on his game....so he started posting his workouts where he's just posting himself working on his jumpshot. He posted a mix tape of him playing well in a Chicago pro am league....Then he posted video of himself going to dykman to play....He wants to build his brand and put off a certain image to fans....then gets mad when some fans criticize. If everyone was adoring him he wouldn't have a problem. He has too much to prove on the NBA court that all this bullshit brand building is just not going to fly. This is why i want him off my team.
I will be a happy camper when Phil dumps him
His 90 crap is simply that, crap
Learn how to be better than you were 3yrs ago
Westbrook tore his knee up too
Got right back to being Westbrook
And he had 2 knee surgeries
Shump has been a bum, he knows it
He knows Phil is lurking and his days truly could be numbered
Helps that the scoreboard is 0-0 too
It starting to seem like last yrs nightmare had a lot more to do with injuries then woodsons rotation and system
It almost looks like melo was the only true healthy body we had all year long..
JR- knee was no where near 100%
shump- Knee woes kept him from being 100%
Amare- slow process coming back
tyson- broken leg, family issues
barg- Broken elbow
felton-injuries, and domestic issues
Prig- fractured toe
kmart- ankle issue
artest-knee issues
Not sure if i missed anybody, but it's no wonder we loss so many games
I'll provide an update hopefully today
When I read more about Shump and his leg recovery
Stating he wants to get after it defensively
Like when he first arrived in the league
Thus far seems his focus is strictly on the offense///// slashing and dunking
F500ONE wrote:EnySpree wrote:Well Shump was posting pics of his vacations, of his music and of his brand where he actually has a logo where he's selling merchandise....fans are telling him he needs to be working on his game....so he started posting his workouts where he's just posting himself working on his jumpshot. He posted a mix tape of him playing well in a Chicago pro am league....Then he posted video of himself going to dykman to play....He wants to build his brand and put off a certain image to fans....then gets mad when some fans criticize. If everyone was adoring him he wouldn't have a problem. He has too much to prove on the NBA court that all this bullshit brand building is just not going to fly. This is why i want him off my team.
I will be a happy camper when Phil dumps him
His 90 crap is simply that, crap
Learn how to be better than you were 3yrs ago
Westbrook tore his knee up too
Got right back to being Westbrook
And he had 2 knee surgeries
Shump has been a bum, he knows it
He knows Phil is lurking and his days truly could be numbered
Helps that the scoreboard is 0-0 too
What is with you writing posts with the layout of a poem?! 
Shump looks like another player who's lost some weight this offseason.
smackeddog wrote:Shump looks like another player who's lost some weight this offseason.
I hope so. He doesn't have the agility or quickness to get by anyone and he doesn't use his strength to get to the basket either. He has become a tweener who is unwilling to play SF. He needs to slim down any get his agility back if he is going to find his game at the 2.
knicks1248 wrote:It starting to seem like last yrs nightmare had a lot more to do with injuries then woodsons rotation and system
It almost looks like melo was the only true healthy body we had all year long..JR- knee was no where near 100%
shump- Knee woes kept him from being 100%
Amare- slow process coming back
tyson- broken leg, family issues
barg- Broken elbow
felton-injuries, and domestic issues
Prig- fractured toe
kmart- ankle issue
artest-knee issues
Not sure if i missed anybody, but it's no wonder we loss so many games
This was part of the problem, but there were issues with Woody's game plan, rotations, in game game management and the teams preparedness. So many issues that it's hard to just pin point one thing. Woody was a huge part of it as much as any player underperforming or injury.
Now we have a somewhat clean slate. New coach and staff, new system and seven new players. Gotta hope this re-energizes the team. I think it will. Having a big time winner like Phil around will give everyone confidence that if they stick with it, they will eventually be successful. Think about how you would feel if you knew Phil and his staff were coming in to show you how to win?
gunsnewing wrote:CrushAlot wrote:VDesai wrote:Begley's best tweet was about how Shump was excited to use his athletcism rather than just stand around in the corner (not so subtle shot at Woodson)
Wish he said he would hit the open shot.
Maybe he can't get in a rhythm and get a feel for the game just stand in the corner watching jr and Melo pound the ball?
I was wondering how long it would take for this to actually be Melo's fault. [Jr being the MiniMelo]
F500ONE wrote:I'll provide an update hopefully todayWhen I read more about Shump and his leg recovery
Stating he wants to get after it defensively
Like when he first arrived in the league
Thus far seems his focus is strictly on the offense///// slashing and dunking
Just please don't post anything critical. Save that shit for Melo.
smackeddog wrote:F500ONE wrote:EnySpree wrote:Well Shump was posting pics of his vacations, of his music and of his brand where he actually has a logo where he's selling merchandise....fans are telling him he needs to be working on his game....so he started posting his workouts where he's just posting himself working on his jumpshot. He posted a mix tape of him playing well in a Chicago pro am league....Then he posted video of himself going to dykman to play....He wants to build his brand and put off a certain image to fans....then gets mad when some fans criticize. If everyone was adoring him he wouldn't have a problem. He has too much to prove on the NBA court that all this bullshit brand building is just not going to fly. This is why i want him off my team.
I will be a happy camper when Phil dumps him
His 90 crap is simply that, crap
Learn how to be better than you were 3yrs ago
Westbrook tore his knee up too
Got right back to being Westbrook
And he had 2 knee surgeries
Shump has been a bum, he knows it
He knows Phil is lurking and his days truly could be numbered
Helps that the scoreboard is 0-0 too
What is with you writing posts with the layout of a poem?!
yeah, and he doesn't
even try to make it sound
like an EFF haiku ///
smackeddog wrote:Shump looks like another player who's lost some weight this offseason.
Nice this is what I expected. Unlike Woodson Phil actually has a brain and told Shump to slim down and play the 2 where you belong hounding the perimeter
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:It starting to seem like last yrs nightmare had a lot more to do with injuries then woodsons rotation and system
It almost looks like melo was the only true healthy body we had all year long..JR- knee was no where near 100%
shump- Knee woes kept him from being 100%
Amare- slow process coming back
tyson- broken leg, family issues
barg- Broken elbow
felton-injuries, and domestic issues
Prig- fractured toe
kmart- ankle issue
artest-knee issues
Not sure if i missed anybody, but it's no wonder we loss so many games
This was part of the problem, but there were issues with Woody's game plan, rotations, in game game management and the teams preparedness. So many issues that it's hard to just pin point one thing. Woody was a huge part of it as much as any player underperforming or injury.
Now we have a somewhat clean slate. New coach and staff, new system and seven new players. Gotta hope this re-energizes the team. I think it will. Having a big time winner like Phil around will give everyone confidence that if they stick with it, they will eventually be successful. Think about how you would feel if you knew Phil and his staff were coming in to show you how to win?
well both jr and shump admitted being limited in the things that they were capable of doing, that difinitly explains their lack of consistent production.
gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:Shump looks like another player who's lost some weight this offseason.
Nice this is what I expected. Unlike Woodson Phil actually has a brain and told Shump to slim down and play the 2 where you belong hounding the perimeter
Looking at his instagram page
Shump looks as he has been
I've never questioned his overall conditioning and weight
He may have been slightly heavier coming off knee injury
But Shump has always been built like a tank
His body isn't his problem
Built to play undersized SF when he should slim down to stay at guard and defend the perimeter
As some others have said, I think the biggest part of last year's problems for Shump were physical. He didn't have the explosion or athleticism of 2 years back. I can't remember more than 1 or 2 big dunks. Was weak finishing around the rim. Was not a dominating ball hawk. Certainly, he isn't the strongest guy mentally and being not quite right physically played with his confidence.
He came back pretty quickly, perhaps before he was ready (look how much time Rose took). I'm hoping he'll be back to where he was physically this year and that his confidence will come back too. I could see a big bounceback year for him.
gunsnewing wrote:Built to play undersized SF when he should slim down to stay at guard and defend the perimeter
Here I thought sf play on the wing?
yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Built to play undersized SF when he should slim down to stay at guard and defend the perimeter
Here I thought sf play on the wing?
6'7-6'8 players he guards don't play on the wing
bernard wrote:As some others have said, I think the biggest part of last year's problems for Shump were physical. He didn't have the explosion or athleticism of 2 years back. I can't remember more than 1 or 2 big dunks. Was weak finishing around the rim. Was not a dominating ball hawk. Certainly, he isn't the strongest guy mentally and being not quite right physically played with his confidence. He came back pretty quickly, perhaps before he was ready (look how much time Rose took). I'm hoping he'll be back to where he was physically this year and that his confidence will come back too. I could see a big bounceback year for him.
Why compare to Rose and not to Westbrook?
Obviously everybody heals differently but
Picking the example to try to fit the preferred picture
To paint is a little disingenuous
gunsnewing wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Built to play undersized SF when he should slim down to stay at guard and defend the perimeter
Here I thought sf play on the wing?
6'7-6'8 players he guards don't play on the wing
Toney Allen says yes they do.
F500ONE wrote:bernard wrote:As some others have said, I think the biggest part of last year's problems for Shump were physical. He didn't have the explosion or athleticism of 2 years back. I can't remember more than 1 or 2 big dunks. Was weak finishing around the rim. Was not a dominating ball hawk. Certainly, he isn't the strongest guy mentally and being not quite right physically played with his confidence. He came back pretty quickly, perhaps before he was ready (look how much time Rose took). I'm hoping he'll be back to where he was physically this year and that his confidence will come back too. I could see a big bounceback year for him.
Why compare to Rose and not to Westbrook?
Obviously everybody heals differently but
Picking the example to try to fit the preferred picture
To paint is a little disingenuous
He probably picked Rose because they were injured on the same day with the same injury. The rehab time for a meniscus is different than an ACL in most cases.
yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:bernard wrote:As some others have said, I think the biggest part of last year's problems for Shump were physical. He didn't have the explosion or athleticism of 2 years back. I can't remember more than 1 or 2 big dunks. Was weak finishing around the rim. Was not a dominating ball hawk. Certainly, he isn't the strongest guy mentally and being not quite right physically played with his confidence. He came back pretty quickly, perhaps before he was ready (look how much time Rose took). I'm hoping he'll be back to where he was physically this year and that his confidence will come back too. I could see a big bounceback year for him.
Why compare to Rose and not to Westbrook?
Obviously everybody heals differently but
Picking the example to try to fit the preferred picture
To paint is a little disingenuous
He probably picked Rose because they were injured on the same day with the same injury. The rehab time for a meniscus is different than an ACL in most cases.
Okay but Westbrook actually had 3 surgeries not 2
As I had figured
Check out some differences below
The point I was getting at////// Westrbook
Looked like his old self almost immediately coming back
Yet his injury is one producing continual discomfort
Scarily, meniscus tears are oftentimes more frightening than ACL tears, in spite of the relatively short recovery time. While an ACL tear may keep a player out for up to a year, and a meniscus tear results in half as long to return from, a compromised repaired meniscus can often lead to perpetual swelling and knee pain, sometimes resulting a career-altering microfracture surgery. While an ACL tear can often result in a cut and dry return to action after an extended period of time, meniscus tears can lead to operation after operation as the player in question experiences continuing discomfort – as we’ve seen with Westbrook’s two post-tear surgeries.
Shump was out pretty much a whole year
He performed well in the playoffs the year he returned
Had a full offseason to recoup
Came back playing like trash
