I believe only Chicago has a chance to stop them
BRIGGS wrote:I believe only Chicago has a chance to stop them
Would I be way off to reason
The current Bulls team
Is better than the Bulls team
That went to the ECF a few yrs ago
Really it's more simplistic to say
The Cavs current team is far better than
The Cavs 2007 Finals team and any Cavs team in between
The Heat did go to 4 straight Finals and won 2
While I don't doubt the Cavs prowess
This isn't a chop liver benchmark
I think Chicago should be the favorites, Cleveland has a lot of talent but their "young" talent has no experience in the post season, so it would be a learning curb for them
While Chicago has their core/philosophies set already, the talents they added just fit in together very well, adding depth and defined roles, along with the experienced, skills developed, chemistry gained, and versatility in talents added while Rose was sidelined
They were a TOP DEFENSIVE team without Rose and were a TOP team every year despite being doutbted every year, they needed some scoring to go with their post season, they achieved that
In addition to the versatility in their BIGs and G/F's complimenting their cutting/3pt shooting/passing/ and multiple ways they can beat you with their spacing as a TEAM and 1v1
Bobcats are quite under the radar as well but I don't see how teams can match up with their speed/quickness/athleticism and shooting/spacing with Jefferson healthy, with the addition of Lance Stephenson
Their BIG's can all shoot, outside of Biyombo, so with Lance/Kemba being able to force double teams easily, they will be very tough
Maybe Wizards match up with the Bobcats the best
and
Orlando is my comlete possible sleeper, dependent on Elfrid Payton and development of Olindipo, health of Harris/Vucevic, 3pt shooting and spacing provided by Frye/Ben Gordon, and rotation of their athletic young bench on both ends being effective consistently with Harkless/Nicholson/Kyle O Quin/Aaron Gordon
What I don't understand is the trade for Fournier and losing a scoring threat like Affalo who was also very good as a defender and shooter/scorer as well
It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
I don't see it that way. I see an open field where any team can take the east. Chicago is ok and Cavs are good but I wouldn't say they are a lock for anything. The Knicks are in the mix as are 3-4 other teams.
Bonn1997 wrote:It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
Where did you hear that rumor? I think I started that one but I was dead serious. All I saw the media say is that he went on a meat, chicken, fish, veg, fruit diet which is BS. You don't lose 50lbs in 2months. Clearly stopped using HGH knowing they will test. Nice heads up by the nba protecting their star. Wouldn't want to pull a baseball and tarnish the game with Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Clemens and Arod
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
Where did you hear that rumor? I think I started that one but I was dead serious. All I saw the media say is that he went on a meat, chicken, fish, veg, fruit diet which is BS. You don't lose 50lbs in 2months. Clearly stopped using HGH knowing they will test. Nice heads up by the nba protecting their star. Wouldn't want to pull a baseball and tarnish the game with Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Clemens and Arod
That is one of the reason why I think this thing is wide open.
the cav's this year are better on paper then the heat in their first year. they have a deeper roster and a more balanced one at that since the heat were so talented on the wing but had only bosh in the post and chalmers and some randoms playing guard. but the Heat had a Finals MVP D Wade and HOF'er Pat Riley to go along with a younger LBJ and although their bench was then and untalented they were experienced. not to mention the heat could play D, the cav's will likely be about average if not below average on defense this year and will regress each year as LBJ ages unless they add some serious defensive presences to the roster.
20lbs I can believe. Not 50.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
Where did you hear that rumor? I think I started that one but I was dead serious. All I saw the media say is that he went on a meat, chicken, fish, veg, fruit diet which is BS. You don't lose 50lbs in 2months. Clearly stopped using HGH knowing they will test. Nice heads up by the nba protecting their star. Wouldn't want to pull a baseball and tarnish the game with Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Clemens and Arod
Where is this 50lb figure coming from? Did Lebron officially put that figure out there or is it just speculation? 50 lbs is a huge amount and but even in the pics I've seen it doesn't appear as if he lost that much. Maybe 25 at most.
And even estimating based on pics is tricky. Camera distortion and perspective distortion can have a huge affect and makes basing estimates like weight and weight loss fraught with error if based solely on viewing photos.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
Where did you hear that rumor? I think I started that one but I was dead serious. All I saw the media say is that he went on a meat, chicken, fish, veg, fruit diet which is BS. You don't lose 50lbs in 2months. Clearly stopped using HGH knowing they will test. Nice heads up by the nba protecting their star. Wouldn't want to pull a baseball and tarnish the game with Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Clemens and Arod
Hmmm. I don't know where I got it from actually. The reports I'm seeing say closer to 20-30.
Bonn1997 wrote:It depends on what's going on with Lebron. The rumor is he lost 50 lbs because he stopped using HGH. I'm sure he'll still be very good but I don't know if he'll be the same.
I'm not sure I believe that- people said exactly the same thing a few years ago when he joined the Heat, though they were citing his diminished athleticism. To be honest he doesn't look that much different- just looks like a guy who lost a little weight because he was turning 30.
In the spirit of poetry:
There once was a guy on the Cavs
Who lost in the finals to the Mavs
He left for the Heat
'Till twice they got beat
But his team is always the favs 
I read this quote below recently
And I was wondering to myself
Which team are these comments coming from
It sounds very familiar
Insert Team' players are enjoying the Princeton offense of Insert Coach.Insert Name described Blatt's offense as "borderline genius."
“I like his offense a lot," said Insert Name. "There’s great ball movement, which is very key in the game of basketball. There isn’t as much of one-on-one. There’s a lot of the ball being kicked from one side of the court to another, which is important. But I said ‘Spurs-esque’ because it’s really all about ball movement—like how the Spurs create those mismatches with defenses by moving the ball so precisely. It doesn’t let the defense lock in on one guy. That’s a lot of what he wants, as far as back-screens, dribble-hand-offs, coming off screen and rolls, kicking and advancing the ball. It’s all about ball movement, that’s key to being a successful team.”
Solace wrote:In the spirit of poetry:There once was a guy on the Cavs
Who lost in the finals to the Mavs
He left for the Heat
'Till twice they got beat
But his team is always the favs
I like your poem but in the spirit of accuracy the Cavs lost to the Spurs, no? Then the Mavs beat the Heat in lebrons first year there.
F500ONE wrote:I read this quote below recentlyAnd I was wondering to myself
Which team are these comments coming from
It sounds very familiar
Insert Team' players are enjoying the Princeton offense of Insert Coach.Insert Name described Blatt's offense as "borderline genius."
“I like his offense a lot," said Insert Name. "There’s great ball movement, which is very key in the game of basketball. There isn’t as much of one-on-one. There’s a lot of the ball being kicked from one side of the court to another, which is important. But I said ‘Spurs-esque’ because it’s really all about ball movement—like how the Spurs create those mismatches with defenses by moving the ball so precisely. It doesn’t let the defense lock in on one guy. That’s a lot of what he wants, as far as back-screens, dribble-hand-offs, coming off screen and rolls, kicking and advancing the ball. It’s all about ball movement, that’s key to being a successful team.”
Lol you left Coach Blatts name in there, so it's obviously the cavs. but I doub that player is LeBron. Sounds more like a role player who believes he'll get more touches...likely a big man who said this.
but yeah, all team say this stuff, it could be plug and plugged into virtually any training camp roster.
knickscity wrote:F500ONE wrote:I read this quote below recentlyAnd I was wondering to myself
Which team are these comments coming from
It sounds very familiar
Insert Team' players are enjoying the Princeton offense of Insert Coach.Insert Name described Blatt's offense as "borderline genius."
“I like his offense a lot," said Insert Name. "There’s great ball movement, which is very key in the game of basketball. There isn’t as much of one-on-one. There’s a lot of the ball being kicked from one side of the court to another, which is important. But I said ‘Spurs-esque’ because it’s really all about ball movement—like how the Spurs create those mismatches with defenses by moving the ball so precisely. It doesn’t let the defense lock in on one guy. That’s a lot of what he wants, as far as back-screens, dribble-hand-offs, coming off screen and rolls, kicking and advancing the ball. It’s all about ball movement, that’s key to being a successful team.”
Lol you left Coach Blatts name in there, so it's obviously the cavs. but I doub that player is LeBron. Sounds more like a role player who believes he'll get more touches...likely a big man who said this.
but yeah, all team say this stuff, it could be plug and plugged into virtually any training camp roster.
I tried and failed
Blaaaaatttttttt!!!! ha ha
Almost sounds as if these quotes
Were written for Nixluva's eyes only
Every team is sitting around the camp fires
Singing and roasting Marshmellows and whatnot
The quotes are from Mike Miller and Brendan Haywood
