Knicks · "When the Garden was Eden" tonight at 9pm on ESPN (page 1)

GustavBahler @ 10/21/2014 6:55 AM
Some of my fondest memories from childhood was going Knick games with my Dad back then. Hope its good.
Hector @ 10/21/2014 7:01 AM
probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.
GustavBahler @ 10/21/2014 7:40 AM
Hector wrote:probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.

Puff piece? Its a tribute to the Garden in the glory days, not investigative journalism. SMH.

Hector @ 10/21/2014 4:15 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.

Puff piece? Its a tribute to the Garden in the glory days, not investigative journalism. SMH.

Shake your heal until it falls off for all I care.

GustavBahler @ 10/21/2014 4:22 PM
Hector wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.

Puff piece? Its a tribute to the Garden in the glory days, not investigative journalism. SMH.

Shake your heal until it falls off for all I care.

Why are you here? Almost all your posts are in the off topic section, and when you do post on the Knicks board, its never about the team, what they are or aren't doing, mostly dissing players, without anything to back it up. You contribute absolutely nothing to this forum.

Hector @ 10/21/2014 4:54 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.

Puff piece? Its a tribute to the Garden in the glory days, not investigative journalism. SMH.

Shake your heal until it falls off for all I care.

Why are you here? Almost all your posts are in the off topic section, and when you do post on the Knicks board, its never about the team, what they are or aren't doing, mostly dissing players, without anything to back it up. You contribute absolutely nothing to this forum.

Off topic section? I thought this was the off topic section? Everyone throws all their crap in the Knicks section anyway.

I like The Knicks, I'm just not a Garden/Knick sycophant.
If you want to be one go for it.

GustavBahler @ 10/21/2014 5:05 PM
Hector wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Hector wrote:probably gonna be a puff piece but we can hope.

Puff piece? Its a tribute to the Garden in the glory days, not investigative journalism. SMH.

Shake your heal until it falls off for all I care.

Why are you here? Almost all your posts are in the off topic section, and when you do post on the Knicks board, its never about the team, what they are or aren't doing, mostly dissing players, without anything to back it up. You contribute absolutely nothing to this forum.

Off topic section? I thought this was the off topic section? Everyone throws all their crap in the Knicks section anyway.

I like The Knicks, I'm just not a Garden/Knick sycophant.
If you want to be one go for it.

You don't like the Knicks enough to actually talk about them, mostly in the off topic section when you aren't acting like some bitch ass hall monitor. Most of us here are long time fans who bleed orange and blue, we mostly talk about the Knicks on a Knicks board. You talk about pretty much everything but the Knicks. I'll take a Knicks sycophant over a forum groupie any day of the week. Talk about puff.

gunsnewing @ 10/21/2014 5:06 PM
I'm looking forward to this but I also will be watching Rangers-Devils
Hector @ 10/21/2014 5:15 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I'm looking forward to this but I also will be watching Rangers-Devils

Maybe it will be good. I hope so, but this building hasn't seen much winning.
I never felt like it was a 'Garden of Eden'
It's been mostly loserville & that is a shame.

There hasn't been much to be positive about.

gunsnewing @ 10/21/2014 6:37 PM
It's about the 1969-73 knicks. That period was the Garden of Eden

Look forward to hearing all the stories especially from Phil Jackson

Hector @ 10/21/2014 6:42 PM
gunsnewing wrote:It's about the 1969-73 knicks. That period was the Garden of Eden

Look forward to hearing all the stories especially from Phil Jackson

I'm glad you're looking forward to it. Enjoy.

dk7th @ 10/22/2014 8:41 AM
Hector wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I'm looking forward to this but I also will be watching Rangers-Devils

Maybe it will be good. I hope so, but this building hasn't seen much winning.
I never felt like it was a 'Garden of Eden'
It's been mostly loserville & that is a shame.

There hasn't been much to be positive about.

as a native new yorker there was nothing better or more exciting than that 1973 knicks team.

maybe the 1986-7 giants or the 1998 yankees.

gunsnewing @ 10/22/2014 8:51 AM
That was awesome to watch. I love that they finally found footage of the Willis Reed vs The Lakers team literally. He literally beat the crap out of their entire team he was so furious after getting punched. He was not suspended because the laker threw the first punch
Hector @ 10/22/2014 8:55 AM
dk7th wrote:
Hector wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I'm looking forward to this but I also will be watching Rangers-Devils

Maybe it will be good. I hope so, but this building hasn't seen much winning.
I never felt like it was a 'Garden of Eden'
It's been mostly loserville & that is a shame.

There hasn't been much to be positive about.

as a native new yorker there was nothing better or more exciting than that 1973 knicks team.

maybe the 1986-7 giants or the 1998 yankees.

Those 2 Knick Championships must have been great fun. The Knick teams should be celebrated, but I don't think the garden is a big deal.

2 wins - in 4 years 40 plus years ago. (plus '94 I guess).

Nowadays Madison Square Garden is a 365 day a year Garden of Dreams telethon with some Basketball & Hockey here & there.

Even the concerts are lame now.

Vmart @ 10/22/2014 9:18 AM
The 70's championship team should be celebrated. But who really cares for the Garden. It's a building that gets hyped. Every telecast they beat our heads in with the Garden and every time we have to hear the same rhetoric. It's about the game not the building. I want championship banners not some bridge. The Garden isn't much of a home field advantage for the Knicks.
misterearl @ 10/22/2014 9:22 AM
VMart - The Answer Man cares for The Garden. Section 332.

If you do not understand how the building (its sights, smells and unique acoustics... the raw energy of the crowd... right down to the memorable voice of John Condon) is part of the fabric of the franchise, you only come across as ignorant.

knicks1248 @ 10/22/2014 9:34 AM
Vmart wrote:The 70's championship team should be celebrated. But who really cares for the Garden. It's a building that gets hyped. Every telecast they beat our heads in with the Garden and every time we have to hear the same rhetoric. It's about the game not the building. I want championship banners not some bridge. The Garden isn't much of a home field advantage for the Knicks.

Maybe You missed the point . He said MSG was the first Arena to have celebs regularly attending games, trust me when i tell you. I used to travel a lot for work, and I have been to at least 12 NBA arenas throughout the country. It is no place on earth better to watch an NBA game then MSG.

Dude we were TOP 10 in attendance in a 23 game win season with no super star on the roster.

THIS was the perfect timing for this to come out especially With a Culture changing era currently taking place, and ball hogging star on the roster.

I have already noticed a change in the way Melo plays now.

misterearl @ 10/22/2014 9:57 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:The 70's championship team should be celebrated. But who really cares for the Garden. It's a building that gets hyped. Every telecast they beat our heads in with the Garden and every time we have to hear the same rhetoric. It's about the game not the building. I want championship banners not some bridge. The Garden isn't much of a home field advantage for the Knicks.

Maybe You missed the point . He said MSG was the first Arena to have celebs regularly attending games, trust me when i tell you. I used to travel a lot for work, and I have been to at least 12 NBA arenas throughout the country. It is no place on earth better to watch an NBA game then MSG.

Dude we were TOP 10 in attendance in a 23 game win season with no super star on the roster.

THIS was the perfect timing for this to come out especially With a Culture changing era currently taking place, and ball hogging star on the roster.

I have already noticed a change in the way Melo plays now.

What you said.

There are few NBA arenas whose managers understand the nuance of lighting, sound and production as the people at The Garden have. What makes the Garden special is New Yorkers who never hold back. One would need to sit in the blue seats back in the day... or better still, the upper deck of the OLD Garden, to know the legacy.

To be certain, things change. The place is not the same. However, it maintains a lot of its former vibe and as a result, its special interaction with the game. The championship Knicks were serenaded with derisive noise into timeouts when they were sluggish. The moment they went on a run the place would go nuts.

There is no place like it.

Hector @ 10/22/2014 10:27 AM
Vmart wrote:The 70's championship team should be celebrated. But who really cares for the Garden. It's a building that gets hyped. Every telecast they beat our heads in with the Garden and every time we have to hear the same rhetoric. It's about the game not the building. I want championship banners not some bridge. The Garden isn't much of a home field advantage for the Knicks.

I don't think your ignorant like the poster implied.
I think you said it the way some people feel & there's northing wrong with that.
If you have been there for big games & were underwhelmed that doesn't make you any less of a fan than anyone else.

It is comical how far some people take the slant that NY is so superior to everywhere else.
The old Boston Garden was a great building & much closer to Eden than MSG, that is for sure.

JoeyBagadonuts @ 10/22/2014 10:57 AM
The old Boston Garden was a dump. The Miracle on 33rd St era Knicks were the first NBA team to transcend the sport of basketball. Anyone who cashes an NBA paycheck can thank those guys for getting that ball rolling.
Hector @ 10/22/2014 11:35 AM
JoeyBagadonuts wrote:The old Boston Garden was a dump. The Miracle on 33rd St era Knicks were the first NBA team to transcend the sport of basketball. Anyone who cashes an NBA paycheck can thank those guys for getting that ball rolling.

The crowd was awesome there & I hate Boston
(My brother in law worked there)


It isn't the building as much as it's everything else that makes a good vibe to a championship season...or dynasty.

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