gunsnewing wrote:well at least Shumpert is still trying to run the triangle and telling Melo where he should be
My first thought on seeing Shump starting was "Melo doesn't play nice with Shump". Not sure we can expect Melo to take directions from Shump.
knicks1248 wrote:I'm starting to really think this is a tank season. I never seen a coach shuffle a line up this much.
knicks be honest did you actually think this team was gonna be good. Best case scenerio is we get a top pick clear bad contracts and add talent in free agency
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
raven wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Why is Wear directing our offenseTelling guys where to go
Somebody's got to do it?
He actually understands the offense and what is supposed to be done. Showed the same understanding of it in the pre-season.
Acy did the same earlier in the game.
We won every game ACY started preseason & regular season. The spacing and energy is so much better to start games. Don't know what the hell Fisher is doing the last 3 games
StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I'm starting to really think this is a tank season. I never seen a coach shuffle a line up this much.
knicks be honest did you actually think this team was gonna be good. Best case scenerio is we get a top pick clear bad contracts and add talent in free agency
I never thought we would see a 13 man rotation
knicks1248 wrote:I'm starting to really think this is a tank season. I never seen a coach shuffle a line up this much.
He's still tryin stuff out cuz it's so early and we have no PG's. I'm not that worried about how many guys are playing. The moves in this system are the same no matter who is playing. The moves are prescribed and the rules for when to cut are too. The only difference is how you get into the offense which is all messed up cuz our guards are having trouble making the initial read and over dribbling. Not feeding the post and cutting hard. Etc. It matters how you start the play cuz everything after that is effected.
Is Klay playing like an MVP?
He's on a mission this guy.
knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
team doesnt have enough talent. I like what fisher is doing. He is trying to find right combinations
StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
team doesnt have enough talent. I like what fisher is doing. He is trying to find right combinations
I'm sorry, thats what training camp and preseason was for. these guys are playing bad because thats what they are. individually they have some talent, all NBA players do. But collectively they are not nearly as good as their opponent.
knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
Yes chemistry is important but in the Triangle HOW you start each set matters. Our guards are not starting the plays right and it's throwing off everything after that.
Let's see if they can execute better in the 2nd half. There were some flashes of better execution but so inconsistent.
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
Yes chemistry is important but in the Triangle HOW you start each set matters. Our guards are not starting the plays right and it's throwing off everything after that.
all i see if shumpert try to start the plays but guys particularly Melo needing to be told where to go.
Does Melo really know where to go on the floor? It doesn't look like it.
Shumpert, Acy and THJ the only ones trying to run the triangle, The rest are just standing around and iso and overdribbling when they have the ball
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
Yes chemistry is important but in the Triangle HOW you start each set matters. Our guards are not starting the plays right and it's throwing off everything after that.
They set up a triangle, the initial pass is usually good, after that, guys look lost most of the time.
On the defensive end, its even more confusion, and less communication.
Splat wrote:Does Melo really know where to go on the floor? It doesn't look like it.
He aborted the triangle 3 games ago. It got too complicated for him.
He wants Mike Woodson back
knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:Every time down our guards are dribbling too much and not making the entry pass into the post. Then they make bad decisions from there. It starts with the PG's making the right read and passing the ball correctly.
Nix, we can't get any chemistry playin all these guys,why do you think we have a 100 TO's?
I think it's the Guards not making the right decisions with the ball. They have to recognize where to pass and make the D move the way you want. Our guards aren't setting the D up by making the right read.
Your right in a sense, but I have played and watched enough basketball to know that chemistry comes with familiarity, and if everytime you turn around you have a different teammate doing something different, and your not even sure where they want the ball, your going to turn the ball over trying to get it to him.
Yes chemistry is important but in the Triangle HOW you start each set matters. Our guards are not starting the plays right and it's throwing off everything after that.
They set up a triangle, the initial pass is usually good, after that, guys look lost most of the time.
On the defensive end, its even more confusion, and less communication.
yup
Splat wrote:Does Melo really know where to go on the floor? It doesn't look like it.
during the preseason it look like he was one of the only player truly getting it.