Knicks · GAME THREAD: Knicks vs. Blazers (page 12)
yellowboy90 wrote:THis is a lose most probably could stomach in a winning season. They played hard. This game was a Fisher Tanking special though. He is not slick keeping Smith on the floor.
you mean jason, right?
Maybe Fisher should have had Calderon in
For that final possession, it's only 1 possession
Because Melo made the pass to Prigoni
I guess that's the difference between winning and losing
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
He is not a even a good defender(decent) but he does rebound now which is great. Well I woke you up maybe a few more will take the red pill.
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defender
Which probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should Aldridge
But if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucks
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:THis is a lose most probably could stomach in a winning season. They played hard. This game was a Fisher Tanking special though. He is not slick keeping Smith on the floor.you mean jason, right?
yes, Jr had his normal defensive miscues but had it going on O.
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.
Offensively they about the same... but rebounding and size in general make Algrige better.
Not much of a diff but I will never pay Melo more that Aldrige...
This mute point zo - both are max players.
mreinman wrote:so appropriate for THJ to airball the ending. if only he got more PT.
We've only been begging Fish and Proxy Phil
To get this kid developed properly since Game 1 of season
nixluva wrote:This is a totally new thing from the losing we've seen even last year! This is insane how many heartbreaking losses this team has logged so far this year. It's crazy and yet predictable. Remarkably consistent close losses.
That's what you want if the goal is a high draft pick. I'm sure Phil and fisher will present some stats to prospective free agents this summer showing how many close games could have been won with that players services.
nixluva wrote:This is a totally new thing from the losing we've seen even last year! This is insane how many heartbreaking losses this team has logged so far this year. It's crazy and yet predictable. Remarkably consistent close losses.
46-14 finish is still within grasp
Just need Calderon to close out games instead of Pablo
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucks
There are 3 players that I want from Portland and they are Lopez, Matthews, and Leonard. They will probably have to drop one of Matthews or Lopez because they will max out Aldrige. They can go over the cap for all three but that will lock them up for years to come even with the exploding cap because Battum is up next summer and Liilard will be looking for a max extension.
I think Portland could be a good blueprint for the knicks but they hit on some homeruns in trades and FA. Wes Matthews was an underrated gem and Lopez could have been had by anyone almost. Let's not forget hitting on Lillard.
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucks
so flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
mreinman wrote:yes! the knicks lose!we are operating operation tank to a tee
They are trying really hard to win games
Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:yes! the knicks lose!we are operating operation tank to a tee
They are trying really hard to win games
trying "haha" wink wink
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucksso flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
I'm going off of current market standards
But in an ideal world there should only be a handful of players making max
It's something these dumb owners have yet to figure out
What qualifies a player as Max worthy
Trying to reverse timelines wont fly with me
I'll say it again I'm one who doesn't think Gasol should get Max
But he will and justifiably so based on market
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucksso flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
I'm going off of current market standards
But in an ideal world there should only be a handful of players making max
It's something these dumb owners have yet to figure outWhat qualifies a player as Max worthy
Trying to reverse timelines work fly with meI'll say it again I'm one who doesn't think Gasol should get Max
But he will and justifiably so based on market
so if you were portlands GM, what would you pay him?
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucksso flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
I'm going off of current market standards
But in an ideal world there should only be a handful of players making max
It's something these dumb owners have yet to figure outWhat qualifies a player as Max worthy
Trying to reverse timelines work fly with meI'll say it again I'm one who doesn't think Gasol should get Max
But he will and justifiably so based on marketso if you were portlands GM, what would you pay him?
If L.A. pulled the same bullcrap that Melo pulled on us[I highly doubt it]
Then I'm looking into a S&T towards the team he's threatening to leave to
Because I still have Lillard and some very complementary pieces
Ummmmm but if he's truly committed to staying with no BS then yes I'm paying him Max
I'm gonna figure San Antonio and Dallas age out and we're 1 piece
Away from winning it all with a exploding Cap on the horizon
See the difference Portland is in contention, has the pieces around L.A.
And are a near lock to win 50gms a season in the West
They are as close as they can be to winning
And that's all any franchise can ask for, is for a shot
We're not anywhere close to that and we already have a maxed out dude
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucksso flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
I'm going off of current market standards
But in an ideal world there should only be a handful of players making max
It's something these dumb owners have yet to figure outWhat qualifies a player as Max worthy
Trying to reverse timelines work fly with meI'll say it again I'm one who doesn't think Gasol should get Max
But he will and justifiably so based on marketso if you were portlands GM, what would you pay him?
If L.A. pulled the same bullcrap that Melo pulled on us[I highly doubt it]
Then I'm looking into a S&T towards the team he's threatening to leave to
Because I still have Lillard and some very complementary piecesUmmmmm but if he's truly committed to staying with no BS then yes I'm paying him Max
I'm gonna figure San Antonio and Dallas age out and we're 1 pieceAway from winning it all with a exploding Cap on the horizon
See the difference Portland is in contention, has the pieces around L.A.And are a near lock to win 50gms a season in the West
They are as close as they can be to winningAnd that's all any franchise can ask for, is for a shot
We're not anywhere close to that and we already have a maxed out dude
lmfao ... treading water
its fine ... you have a right to be biased
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:Aldridge not a bunch of 3s, hasn't gone to the line muchBecause he makes high percentage shots near and/or in the paint
FG% FTWShould aldridge add a 3 to his game?
His 10reb/gm probably says NO!
10 rebounds a game means he does not need to improve his game?
No it means I don't want 10reb/gmTo turn into 7reb/gm, because my big is trying to be cute
Shooting 3s at 33-36%, because that's what will be the median resultAldridge has taken more 3s this year and what does cutting out long range 2s for 3s have to do with defensive rebounding
Yes ... I just wanted to see if he realized that because I am sure that he did not.
Aldridge needs to add the 3 to his game and he is obviously starting.
Hhhhhmmmm really ??
I knew he took more 3s
of course you did
WHat gets me is that Aldrige offensively is a worse version of Melo yet that's okay. I am not even talking about F5 either but most people view him as a great offensive player even though he takes a lot of contested mid range jumpers.yes. people are clueless and just like to say stuff and pound their chest.
Melo is a better offensive player than aldridge. there is no question about that.
I don't think anyone would disagree
The game has more to it than offense right?
Aldridge better rebounder and defenderWhich probably makes up the offensive gap whatever it may be
Therefore since Melo makes Max so should AldridgeBut if you guys have beefs with his contested offensive play
Don't bring him into any discussion for free agent signing at boo-koo bucksso flip it around ...
if aldridge deserves the max than melo deserves the max?
didn't you say that melo was worth about 14 million?
I think that aldridge deserves the max if he cuts out those stupid long 2's and turns them into 3's. His efficiency is awful.
As you say ... he is in the league for all these years and has made it to the second round only once ... and his playoff performances ...
I'm going off of current market standards
But in an ideal world there should only be a handful of players making max
It's something these dumb owners have yet to figure outWhat qualifies a player as Max worthy
Trying to reverse timelines work fly with meI'll say it again I'm one who doesn't think Gasol should get Max
But he will and justifiably so based on marketso if you were portlands GM, what would you pay him?
If L.A. pulled the same bullcrap that Melo pulled on us[I highly doubt it]
Then I'm looking into a S&T towards the team he's threatening to leave to
Because I still have Lillard and some very complementary piecesUmmmmm but if he's truly committed to staying with no BS then yes I'm paying him Max
I'm gonna figure San Antonio and Dallas age out and we're 1 pieceAway from winning it all with a exploding Cap on the horizon
See the difference Portland is in contention, has the pieces around L.A.And are a near lock to win 50gms a season in the West
They are as close as they can be to winningAnd that's all any franchise can ask for, is for a shot
We're not anywhere close to that and we already have a maxed out dudelmfao ... treading water
its fine ... you have a right to be biased
Once again giving 30yr olds max is not my thing
But you asked me a loaded question gun to head
I answered honestly, I think you think I'm in love with Aldridge
Believe me I'm not
And as far as Aldridge with 2's and 3's, I don't think that you get this either.
The only thing that I still know for sure is that you dislike Carmelo immensely.
mreinman wrote:F5 ... my issue is that you are all over the place. You say and post many things that just clash and then you back track. To be fair, I don't believe you are consistent at all. And, when I ask you direct questions, you avoid them like the plague.And as far as Aldridge with 2's and 3's, I don't think that you get this either.
The only thing that I still know for sure is that you dislike Carmelo immensely.
You're making this real complicated and it's not
Only because you actually have a preference of Max guy{I truly don't]
My personal preference is not to give 30yr olds Max
But of the crop of bigs entering free agency if I had to pay Max
With exception to Gasol[who is a no brainer at this point]
I'd give it to Aldridge, what's so complicated and inconsistent about this
Since you had a gripe with me bringing Melo into the convo
Very briefly mind you as a means to reason what market offer should reflect
Then sub out Melo for Chris Bosh, does that make you feel better