I know Tyler may not even be in the league at this point, but I believe he is a far better player than both Smith and Cole. He was a foul machine, but he sure as hell defended and rebounded the ball better then the aforementioned. He is a far better passer than the two and could have served a purpose if he were retained. We should have kept that dude on the roster instead of the two softies.
mreinman wrote:hello fitzfarm
Fitzfarm???
Tyler is a concept in a useless ramp to complain.
Tyler could not find another NBA job so not only is 1969 correct about tyler on the knicks, he knows better than 29 other teams and thier exec's!!!
Foul machines don't defend better. They are telling also of players not quick enough, smart enough or in good enough shape to stay on the floor.
Nalod wrote:Tyler is a concept in a useless ramp to complain.
Tyler could not find another NBA job so not only is 1969 correct about tyler on the knicks, he knows better than 29 other teams and thier exec's!!!
Foul machines don't defend better. They are telling also of players not quick enough, smart enough or in good enough shape to stay on the floor.
Cole and Jayson Smith are no better
Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler is a concept in a useless ramp to complain.
Tyler could not find another NBA job so not only is 1969 correct about tyler on the knicks, he knows better than 29 other teams and thier exec's!!!
Foul machines don't defend better. They are telling also of players not quick enough, smart enough or in good enough shape to stay on the floor.
Cole and Jayson Smith are no better
Tyler is in China. Your arguing the abstract.
Tyler is obviouly not to have shown enough interest by the knicks for this season or beyond. He was given a chance and was let go.
Cole and Smith are stop game short term players. Tyler if shown potential would have been kept. He can always come back can't he?
No harm.
Nalod wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler is a concept in a useless ramp to complain.
Tyler could not find another NBA job so not only is 1969 correct about tyler on the knicks, he knows better than 29 other teams and thier exec's!!!
Foul machines don't defend better. They are telling also of players not quick enough, smart enough or in good enough shape to stay on the floor.
Cole and Jayson Smith are no better
Tyler is in China. Your arguing the abstract.
Tyler is obviouly not to have shown enough interest by the knicks for this season or beyond. He was given a chance and was let go.
Cole and Smith are stop game short term players. Tyler if shown potential would have been kept. He can always come back can't he?
No harm.
I see where you are heading with your argument. What is done is already done. I was just voicing my displeasure with Jayson Smith and Cole. I simply think that Tyler gave a lot more the. The two combined
Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler is a concept in a useless ramp to complain.
Tyler could not find another NBA job so not only is 1969 correct about tyler on the knicks, he knows better than 29 other teams and thier exec's!!!
Foul machines don't defend better. They are telling also of players not quick enough, smart enough or in good enough shape to stay on the floor.
Cole and Jayson Smith are no better
Tyler is in China. Your arguing the abstract.
Tyler is obviouly not to have shown enough interest by the knicks for this season or beyond. He was given a chance and was let go.
Cole and Smith are stop game short term players. Tyler if shown potential would have been kept. He can always come back can't he?
No harm.
I see where you are heading with your argument. What is done is already done. I was just voicing my displeasure with Jayson Smith and Cole. I simply think that Tyler gave a lot more the. The two combined
Cole and Smith are not good, and not expensive. Tyson is far better!!! This is part of the rebuilding. Calderone is here so Iman can get traded. Or JR.
Cleanthony Is not on the floor to justify the trade either way.
Root not for change, but for substansive moves to improve the future. Phil is using "not ruin the future". Short term patches is why we in the mess.
We even passed on Earl Clark for the 5 year in a row!
For most fans the frustration of losing with the muddy waters clouding any vision is not easy to blindly trust phils vision.
I have Faith. Its not much, but its all I got.
Nalod, I did not mention Tyson's name.
No point to compare non-NBA talent to non-NBA talent...
This all bunch of kind of bigs do not belong.
And at the time no NBA-talent is willing and available for the Knicks anything goes.
Same true about our guards.
This organization corner itself in such a hole that claiming back is no joke.
We will rip our nails off and fall back many times before getting out still stinky and shaky.
Patients bro... patience... and not for one season or 2, but much longer.
Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod, I did not mention Tyson's name.
Lamenting rant. You would have.
Cole Aldrich--why doesnt he get 3-5 games with 35 minutes as a starter?
There are always bad decisions made throughout the sports world that baffle everyone. This one gets me. Tyler was a good pick and roll defender, weak side defender, and shot blocker. He had more of a post game than both of them and is a better passer. He couldn't defend anyone in the post any better and I believe Cole us a better per min rebounder but on a team sorely lacking defense I just don't get it. Tyler could be our starting center. Not a good one, but Sam has zero offensive game and Amare plays zero defense. He's be the most well rounded center on the roster. The only issue is minutes, because like you said, he picks up an insane number of fouls.
Tyler has gotten multiple chances and not been able to stick here or anywhere else. Either his play has not impressed anyone who counts or he is a distraction off the court. In either case I don't think he would help this team.
He has the talent and abilties to play both PF/C on BOTH ends
However, when he didn't focus on developing his game prior to training camp/summer league and came in camp way out of shape, it was a sign that he wasn't taking it seriously
This was is 3rd stinct back and there are only so many chances one may have
With that said, I would still be willing to give him a chance with a non guaranteed deal with team option for 2nd year
Will Phil Jackson do the same with Bynum?
If he gave a chance for Odom, I cannot see why he wouldn't give Bynum a chance on a vet min deal with team option for 3rd that isn't guaranteed
RonRon wrote:He has the talent and abilties to play both PF/C on BOTH ends
However, when he didn't focus on developing his game prior to training camp/summer league and came in camp way out of shape, it was a sign that he wasn't taking it seriously
This was is 3rd stinct back and there are only so many chances one may have
With that said, I would still be willing to give him a chance with a non guaranteed deal with team option for 2nd year
Will Phil Jackson do the same with Bynum?
If he gave a chance for Odom, I cannot see why he wouldn't give Bynum a chance on a vet min deal with team option for 3rd that isn't guaranteed
Not sure. But I think giving Bynum a chance makes more sense then Tyler.
