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Knicks1969 wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think one thing that tends to get lost in the shuffle is typically you fit the offense around the personnel, at least in the short term. We are taking a team without triangle parts and implimenting the triangle regardless. Most around the league would say the triangle isn't a good fit for this particular group of players, but that doesn't matter because long-term that is going to be how this team is built. So really this offense is designed for 2 or 3 long-term players and that's it, whereas the rest of the group is misfit and the overall performance will suffer because of that.Other then the TRIANGLE, Fisher can't coach anything else.
How's that old saying go?
Give a fish a five year contract and they eatin good, but teach a fish to coach and they can coach for a lifetime.
Nalod wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think one thing that tends to get lost in the shuffle is typically you fit the offense around the personnel, at least in the short term. We are taking a team without triangle parts and implimenting the triangle regardless. Most around the league would say the triangle isn't a good fit for this particular group of players, but that doesn't matter because long-term that is going to be how this team is built. So really this offense is designed for 2 or 3 long-term players and that's it, whereas the rest of the group is misfit and the overall performance will suffer because of that.Other then the TRIANGLE, Fisher can't coach anything else.
And why would he try to? He was hired to run the system his boss tells him to.
Then they are to be honest about their approach. Let us know that we will be losing a hell of a lot of games because the players on the roster simply don't fit their system. Right now, majority of fans have a hard time understanding what is happening. We are not playing the young dudes, we giving a hell of a lot of minutes to guys with expiring contracts.
Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.
if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
Knicks1969 wrote:Nalod wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think one thing that tends to get lost in the shuffle is typically you fit the offense around the personnel, at least in the short term. We are taking a team without triangle parts and implimenting the triangle regardless. Most around the league would say the triangle isn't a good fit for this particular group of players, but that doesn't matter because long-term that is going to be how this team is built. So really this offense is designed for 2 or 3 long-term players and that's it, whereas the rest of the group is misfit and the overall performance will suffer because of that.Other then the TRIANGLE, Fisher can't coach anything else.
And why would he try to? He was hired to run the system his boss tells him to.
Then they are to be honest about their approach. Let us know that we will be losing a hell of a lot of games because the players on the roster simply don't fit their system. Right now, majority of fans have a hard time understanding what is happening. We are not playing the young dudes, we giving a hell of a lot of minutes to guys with expiring contracts.
The last thing in the world Phil Jackson should be catering to is your need for transparency. This has to be an inside job. Running a franchise is poker game with a couple dozen other GMs holding their cards close to their vests. Phil owes you nothing. His only $12M a year obligation is to improve the club and if that means sending out false smoke signals, then that is part of his job.
mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
The show is on broadway. People need hope.
mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
+1
mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
I think after last night, Phil will take a more engaging approach with the coaching staff. I am for certain he is not too happy with the record. Fisher needs help figuring out his lineups
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
Exactly
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
Melo is playing through injury and heavy minutes because of Digital Enterprise brand and sponsorship obligations. Melo misses games or plays fewer minutes his brand plummets.
Also "dumb Knicks fans" fill the Garden to see $124mil Melo. Winning or losing is irrelevant to them. Keeps Dolan happy
gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
Melo is playing through injury and heavy minutes because of Digital Enterprise brand and sponsorship obligations. Melo misses games or plays fewer minutes his brand plummets
oh please ... thats just silly.
melo is playing because they are paying him a sh1t load to play and sell tickets
Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
Exactly
+1
Bonn1997 wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
Exactly
+1
Did you watch the Charlotte game. Did you see how many Knicks moved out of the way for Kemba to get the game winning layup? Starting with JR putting zero pressure on the inbounder. Prigs not fouling with a foul to give and Melo making no effort to stop Kemba at the rim?
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
Exactly
+1Did you watch the Charlotte game. Did you see how many Knicks moved out of the way for Kemba to get the game winning layup? Starting with JR putting zero pressure on the inbounder. Prigs not fouling with a foul to give and Melo making no effort to stop Kemba at the rim?
so you think that they intentionally allowed him to score because they are under tank rules?
crazy garbage.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Vmart wrote:There is a plan in place. Phil won't say it because it's not right to but we must keep losing to get better. With losses comes higher first and second round pick. With that comes infusion of talent. This team needs serious talent up grade.if he wants to lose, why play the starters so many minutes? and why is he taking so many chances almost winning? These close games must be killing him!
That's the only $64,000 question I have right now too. There are mixed signals in how they have handled Melo and the way minutes are being distributed.
It could be gross incompetence. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem coherent.
It makes me wonder if Phil is letting Fisher fuk up for a reason and not meddling or if all of this has either Phil's blessing or is actually by his design and Fish is fulfilling Phil's wishes. It is troubling.
or they are just trying to win with the bad team that they have and hope that they hit in the draft (with whatever pick that they get) and have some good signings in the off season.
They are not trying to lose. They want desperately to win. That is obvious.
Exactly
+1Did you watch the Charlotte game. Did you see how many Knicks moved out of the way for Kemba to get the game winning layup? Starting with JR putting zero pressure on the inbounder. Prigs not fouling with a foul to give and Melo making no effort to stop Kemba at the rim?
Dude, that is poor coaching. Fish always stand around silently as if he is an accomplished coach. Great coaches are constantly barking instructions, not fish.
gunsnewing wrote:
Did you watch the Charlotte game. Did you see how many Knicks moved out of the way for Kemba to get the game winning layup? Starting with JR putting zero pressure on the inbounder. Prigs not fouling with a foul to give and Melo making no effort to stop Kemba at the rim?
Nobody is going to give you a satisfactory explanation for that, because that was either an atrocity or a conscious decision. Melo stood there like a statue and did nothing. Either he is a POS or he was told not to contest.
gunsnewing wrote:maybe not but the biggest indication of tanking is Fisher's substitutions like sticking with Jason Smith in the 4th quarter yesterday. Maybe some of the guys are trying to win but Fisher is controlling the talent level on the court. Not subbing defense for offense vice versa. They are doing a masterful job subliminally tanking
Dude please...you are giving FISHER way too much credit. Call it like it is, FISHER is simply a horrible coach RIGHT NOW