Knicks · I'm convinced that JR and Shump are not fully healthy (page 1)

There is no other reason that 2 of the most athletic players in the league are not going to the hole. I haven't seen JR dunk a ball in god knows how long. Even wide open fast breaks, he just does a simple layup. Were talking high flying JR, even his (once in a blue moon)layups in traffic, have no lift,which is why he doesn't get the calls.

Shump has 4 dunks for the season.

I just can't believe two of the most athletic players in league, all of a sudden stop penetrating and dunking.

I'm convinced they've never been healthier

I dont think health has much to do with it, both are just inconsistent players

They are both garbage

knicks1248 wrote:There is no other reason that 2 of the most athletic players in the league are not going to the hole. I haven't seen JR dunk a ball in god knows how long. Even wide open fast breaks, he just does a simple layup. Were talking high flying JR, even his (once in a blue moon)layups in traffic, have no lift,which is why he doesn't get the calls.

Shump has 4 dunks for the season.

I just can't believe two of the most athletic players in league, all of a sudden stop penetrating and dunking.

not fully healthy.. may be true
Also believe JR and Shumpert are full_y of sh_'t!
is why there offensive play is of NO help to any NBA team.
Shump and JR 2 vet guys on knickerbockers whom bring nothing

You men not 100% mentally healthy?
Probably, but this is bad taste to go at mentally deficient people.
Have mercy man...

My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

arkrud wrote:You men not 100% mentally healthy?
Probably, but this is bad taste to go at mentally deficient people.
Have mercy man...

This aint about Dementia my brother

100% mentally healthy , what u talking about?

DJMUSIC wrote:

arkrud wrote:You men not 100% mentally healthy?
Probably, but this is bad taste to go at mentally deficient people.
Have mercy man...

This aint about Dementia my brother

100% mentally healthy , what u talking about?

What is has to do with current management.
This dudes are around here for a while and for a reason.
No one wanted them ever... even for bag of chips.

I'm with the contingent who simply aren't convinced they are very good. Sadly. It's mind boggling that Shumpert is so atrocious at the rim. Wtf. JR is JR, trying to integrate the unselfish tenets of the triangle probably shorts some wiring in his brain causing something like when a computer is low on RAM and a graphic heavy website loads and it just slows to a crawl or just freezes. JR taking a silly jumper is like his CRTL-ALT-DELETE.

Splat wrote:My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

And to think how many ppl were bent out of shape because phil didn't extend shump and larkin. I think thats the best move phil has done since he got here.

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

And to think how many ppl were bent out of shape because phil didn't extend shump and larkin. I think thats the best move phil has done since he got here.

well larkin would have only cost about 1.5 million which is peanuts

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

And to think how many ppl were bent out of shape because phil didn't extend shump and larkin. I think thats the best move phil has done since he got here.

well larkin would have only cost about 1.5 million which is peanuts

but he's only worth 500k

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

And to think how many ppl were bent out of shape because phil didn't extend shump and larkin. I think thats the best move phil has done since he got here.

Yeah, whether we get anything now for Shump can't be the focus. That's a missed opportunity, but at least you don't have to build a team with him on it. His only chance at having a longer career is landing with a top organization that utilizes him well off the bench. He is not a starter.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:My primary disappointment is both guys must be at their lowest points value-wise. We're stuck with JR and the window to get something for Shump was squandered. Way to go Knicks management!

And to think how many ppl were bent out of shape because phil didn't extend shump and larkin. I think thats the best move phil has done since he got here.

well larkin would have only cost about 1.5 million which is peanuts

Larkin won't be getting paid big bucks by anyone. If we wanted to keep him, it will probably still be an option.

Wally is slamming Shump in post-game. They basically said Shump's reputation for defense is not being earned any longer.

Maybe Shump was told he will survive the purge but he must tank. Knicks started well as did Shump than when it became evident to Phil that we must tank players like Melo, Shump & THJ wear given orders to tank.

Amare, JR & company were not given those orders because they won't be here. So they are still trying.

How bout that Zen?!

gunsnewing wrote:Maybe Shump was told he will survive the purge but he must tank. Knicks started well as did Shump than when it became evident to Phil that we must tank players like Melo, Shump & THJ wear given orders to tank.

Amare, JR & company were not given those orders because they won't be here. So they are still trying.

How bout that Zen?!

It is like that, only different.

Phil doesn't risk giving them verbal instructions. Leave no trails.

Phil communicates his intentions like Magneto and telepathically guides the players to do his bidding.

Maybe JR, Shump and rest of knickerbockers don't get enough practice

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Maybe Shump was told he will survive the purge but he must tank. Knicks started well as did Shump than when it became evident to Phil that we must tank players like Melo, Shump & THJ wear given orders to tank.

Amare, JR & company were not given those orders because they won't be here. So they are still trying.

How bout that Zen?!

It is like that, only different.

Phil doesn't risk giving them verbal instructions. Leave no trails.

Phil communicates his intentions like Magneto and telepathically guides the players to do his bidding.

The order is simple - Be smart.
But not everybody can... Here comes selection criteria.

gunsnewing wrote:Maybe Shump was told he will survive the purge but he must tank. Knicks started well as did Shump than when it became evident to Phil that we must tank players like Melo, Shump & THJ wear given orders to tank.

Amare, JR & company were not given those orders because they won't be here. So they are still trying.

How bout that Zen?!

maybe phil doesn't know what the hell he's doing and were in for another decade of laughing stock..