Knicks · Taking the positive approach (page 1)

Melo was a part of many winning teams including ours which may have even gone farther if it didnt collapse physically. We can win with him again.

It's in my believe that we need to build this roster in cohesion from interior out. I "believe" we can really score big from this draft and when we do we will put an interior foundation in place for 12-14 years. I also believe we can grab two role players from rd 2. We are on a rebuild--accept it and approach it in a smart way. The more lines you throw out the more fish you catch.

Free agency has to be methodical and smart. The more I look at it, the one name that pops in my head is Leonard. I do not think that the Spurs are going to give him a free agency max contract--but I think we should. He is the epitome of the player we need to focus on two ways 23 and still has incredible upside in front of him. A guy like Kawhi can help us move Melo back to SG--yep I said it. Melo's new best position is a 6-8 SG. He's a shooter--thats what he is so take advantage of his frame and play him to strengths. At Sg it mitigates defensive deficiencies.

This is a 2 yr plan and we have allocated so much to Calderon PG might have to be fixed the next year. BUt Im willing to find a new vet for 2-3mm as a stop gap and if needed move Calderon to bac k up status

Let me stop there for one minute and show off an imaginary roster that actually has a chance to be real.

Lets say we get Ok4 and Dakari Johnson in this draft by winning the lottery and trading a top 5 restricted pick in 2017 to any team in the mid range who does not want to draft in rd 1 this year. Im immediately start both

That puts me at

C-7-0 260 Dakari Johnson

PF 6-10 270 J Okafor

SF 6-7 230 Kwahni Leoanard

SG Carmelo Anthony

PG TBD but I need someone who can run

If I can I want to resign amare for 1 year and a team option for 4mm per. I know some people dont like him but he's still a guy who can really play in this league and we need him as a quality frontcourt player UNTIL such time we have additional max cap space to replace him.

JR Smith --gone hes never playing one more minute for the Knicks past this season hes just done prigs is also gone Bargs etc.. F gone.

Look at this foundation these cats are young and I know they can play--all of them. A 100% culture change in the next 6 months. Moving Melo to 2--fcking genius.

Role players in rd 2 with some left overs like Acy and maybe Wear.

While we need some luck with this--this is something that CAN actually happen--I mean how many F Knick fans would be going crazy for something like this? <elo +- doesnt need to bring the whole ship down--you just put him in the right position for the best of the team. hes a jumpshooter hes our new Reggie Miller/Allan Houston. This will take stress off of his body and at 6-8 he becomes an asset on defense.

BasketballJones wrote:That's the answer! An imaginary roster.

You have to visualize the future!

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Waste gases can be converted into the fuel of the future!

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

As Clyde would say, you are posting with Gusto!

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Waste gases can be converted into the fuel of the future!

You're right.

Lets trade our second round pick + Jason and a future ... uh ... 3rd rounder to Phil for their 2015 and 2016 trade exceptions and move those to NJ for their rights to Euro X

This should put us in a better cap position for next year and it will reduce our risk to our QO to shump.

THEY HAVE a GM, a PRESIDENT AND A BUNCH OF FUKKIN ACTUARIES!!

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

As Clyde would say, you are posting with Gusto!

Its just the truth--it is what it is--we have what we have. We have a high draft pick and maximum cap space. With some thought process and the right partner--we can also move an asset up in time.

I love basketball--and have made dozens of different potential rosters and scenarios. But the roster that makes the most sense WITH MELO is moving him to SG. It makes 100% sense--hes a jumpshooter. the SF position needs to be a better athlete and Melo is overwhelmed at 4 defensively. So moving him to SG @ 6-88 makes us a bigger team. The whole time we thought we had no SG--we do--his name is Carmelo.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

But why spend so much time trying to suggest scenarios that will never happen?

If its just a hobby playing fantasy basketball GM then I get it, but we know that none of this actually happens.

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

As Clyde would say, you are posting with Gusto!

Its just the truth--it is what it is--we have what we have. We have a high draft pick and maximum cap space. With some thought process and the right partner--we can also move an asset up in time.

I love basketball--and have made dozens of different potential rosters and scenarios. But the roster that makes the most sense WITH MELO is moving him to SG. It makes 100% sense--hes a jumpshooter. the SF position needs to be a better athlete and Melo is overwhelmed at 4 defensively. So moving him to SG @ 6-88 makes us a bigger team. The whole time we thought we had no SG--we do--his name is Carmelo.

So no penetration, just jump shots from our guards? Melo camped out in three point land? He'll go to the free throw line six times a season. Sounds like making lemonade out of lemons, but not exactly a competitive outcome from our SG position.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

Not if the perception out there this summer

The place is still toxic as ever and Melo carries on with his loser type ways

The only thing we really have going for us is the pick

Remember we had Cap Space before about the same as we will now back in 2010

We almost whiffed that whole offseason

I agree with mreinman no need to get cute off in La-La land[pun intended]

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

But why spend so much time trying to suggest scenarios that will never happen?

If its just a hobby playing fantasy basketball GM then I get it, but we know that none of this actually happens.

Don't harsh on his trade jones. It gets him out of bed.

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

As Clyde would say, you are posting with Gusto!

Its just the truth--it is what it is--we have what we have. We have a high draft pick and maximum cap space. With some thought process and the right partner--we can also move an asset up in time.

I love basketball--and have made dozens of different potential rosters and scenarios. But the roster that makes the most sense WITH MELO is moving him to SG. It makes 100% sense--hes a jumpshooter. the SF position needs to be a better athlete and Melo is overwhelmed at 4 defensively. So moving him to SG @ 6-88 makes us a bigger team. The whole time we thought we had no SG--we do--his name is Carmelo.

So no penetration, just jump shots from our guards? Melo camped out in three point land? He'll go to the free throw line six times a season. Sounds like making lemonade out of lemons, but not exactly a competitive outcome from our SG position.

Who is the Spurs penetrators on unit 1--just the PG.

callmened wrote:U lost me BRIGGS. Melo can barely guard 3s now u want him to guard 2s. Smh

Jose and Melo would the All-Defensive NBA backcourt of the year.

They'd funnel all penetration into the lane where Tyson somebody would swat away their shots.

2014
1. Season ending surgery for melo
2. Trade jr if possible
3. Play out the rest of the yr...tank

2015
1. Draft a big (towns)
2. Pay max money to rondo
3. Use the rest of money to buy role players like rivers, Cunningham or whoever

2016
1. Spend money on real stars once the cap increases

callmened wrote:U lost me BRIGGS. Melo can barely guard 3s now u want him to guard 2s. Smh

Im not worried about Melo locking anyone down in a team concept--I like his size on the perimeter against 2's(both ways) and if somoen goes around him I have two rim protectors Im funneling them to. I do need speed at the 1--that is the position defense really matters. I can easily get by with Melo at 2 guard if Klay Thompson is an all world 2.

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:I try to concentrate on the current (stench)

that is why I never propose wild fantasy trades or predict / scout college players.

Its kinda worthless since its just talk that never actually happens.

Well the honesty is we really sck and we haev a draft pick which is going to be high--check
We have 24-25mm in cap space---check
We have a first round pick in 2017 we can potentially trade up to this draft---check

Can we move Melo to SG? Absolutely it makes a ton of sense.

There is no fantasy-we have the assets to improve mightily and quickly.

As Clyde would say, you are posting with Gusto!

Its just the truth--it is what it is--we have what we have. We have a high draft pick and maximum cap space. With some thought process and the right partner--we can also move an asset up in time.

I love basketball--and have made dozens of different potential rosters and scenarios. But the roster that makes the most sense WITH MELO is moving him to SG. It makes 100% sense--hes a jumpshooter. the SF position needs to be a better athlete and Melo is overwhelmed at 4 defensively. So moving him to SG @ 6-88 makes us a bigger team. The whole time we thought we had no SG--we do--his name is Carmelo.

So no penetration, just jump shots from our guards? Melo camped out in three point land? He'll go to the free throw line six times a season. Sounds like making lemonade out of lemons, but not exactly a competitive outcome from our SG position.

Who is the Spurs penetrators on unit 1--just the PG.