Knicks · So Amar'e Has Beef With Tyson?///// "He Can't Guard Me" (page 2)
knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.
knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
did you watch the game last night?
for every point that amare scores he gives up 5.
Also, did you see his fugly turnovers on the double and triple teams? Carlisle made him look like the tool that he is.
Why in the world do you defend this guy??? I don't get it.
Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.
so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Tyson would have had similar numbers if the game didn't get out of hand. He only played 25 min last night.
mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.
Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.
Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. They're a dime a dozen. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?
Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?
Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.
mreinman wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
did you watch the game last night?
for every point that amare scores he gives up 5.
Also, did you see his fugly turnovers on the double and triple teams? Carlisle made him look like the tool that he is.
Why in the world do you defend this guy??? I don't get it.
It's not Amare I'm defending, it's the fact that you miss the 15 wide open 3's(45%) dallas made. we didn't lose the game because of amare's Defense.
As soon as you watch the entire game instead of focusing on a amare's lapses on defense, You will realize that he's a small part of the problem on defense. You guys hate amare so much that you turn a blind eye to our real issues. We have players on this roster that make amare look like Mutumbo
It's so narrow minded and box thinking to keep ridiculing every single word he says, especially when a he's talking about TYSON, who nobody lost a wink of sleep when he go traded.
Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.
tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.
Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.
I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.
MaTT4281 wrote:Putting "He can't guard me" in quotes implies Amar'e actually said those words.I read this as STAT boasting about himself, not taking shots at Tyson. 3 words came off poorly: "supposed to be". I don't have a high level of expectation for what an athlete blurts out in the post game and definitely not looking for the deeper meaning.
The dude is boasting for his next contract. He is disingenuous for Amare to speak about guarding me 1-1; that just shows that he doesn't believe in team basketball. No wonder why when he is given the ball he never looks to pass it even when he is being guarded by 3 defenders.
BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
LMAO bringing up 2nd and 3rd team and All-Star honors
Instead of DPOY and Championship
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.
Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.
I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.
And Amar'e didn't benefit from playing in SSOL and with a 2 time MVP
I'm completed baffled fans storming down doors to defend D-Bags and Losers
Knicks1969 wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:Putting "He can't guard me" in quotes implies Amar'e actually said those words.I read this as STAT boasting about himself, not taking shots at Tyson. 3 words came off poorly: "supposed to be". I don't have a high level of expectation for what an athlete blurts out in the post game and definitely not looking for the deeper meaning.
The dude is boasting for his next contract. He is disingenuous for Amare to speak about guarding me 1-1; that just shows that he doesn't believe in team basketball. No wonder why when he is given the ball he never looks to pass it even when he is being guarded by 3 defenders.
Here's another silly hater misconception, the guy has taking more the 11 shots just twice in the pass 20 games.
I agree he needs to know when to pass, but I personally don't want him to just pass for the sake of passing.. Him and melo are the only 2 player taking it to the paint. But it seems like you would prefer to see him pass to shump or jr, or Smith so they can take another low % long jump shot.
He's not a great passer like divac, he's more likely to throw an intercepted ill advise pass(like everybody on the roster) , then the "high IQ" right pass.
F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.
Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.
I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.
And Amar'e didn't benefit from playing in SSOL and with a 2 time MVPI'm completed baffled fans storming down doors to defend D-Bags and Losers
Any player is going to benefit from playing in a system that fits his skill set, thats a complete no brainer. I couldn't care less if it was amare, grant hill, or santa, when positives out weigh negatives i'm going to lean on the positives like I would want people to do with me.
When people starting turning your positives into negatives, that means they don't like you and nothing you do matters, welcome to Hatersville..
I'm sure each of us have cross paths with people like that..don't be
knicks1248 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:F500ONE wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
Yeah give Amar'e credit for locking up Chandler not
Allowing him to duplicate this performance
DATE OPP SCORE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTSWed 11/26 vs NY W 109-102 43 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 3-5 .600 25 1 2 1 3 2 17
Yeah, Tyson averaged 13 points and 20 rbs a game against the Knicks this year. You'd think Amare would have a little humility.so ironic ...
you can't make that sh1t up.
In what sense? If you're talking about Tyson, at least he has real achievements to fall back on. Tyson's also never talked trash about a player who outplayed him as far as I'm aware. So I don't see any parallel here, though I recognize your effort.Oh Jees man Amare was once first team all NBA 7 times an all star had season Tysons could only dream about. That is not close
All-star appearances? That doesn't come to mind when I think of ultimate basketball achievements. I think a DPOY, a ring, and an Olympic gold medal are more impressive.
What would make you happier? If you learned the guy we draft with our lotto pick will make a bunch of all-star appearances or that he'll play a key role in bring a ring here?Hey Mario Chalmers has two rings--right time right place. Being elected to first team all NBA is only second to MVP. I think people ten to forget just how good Amare was. Even his first year here your talking 25+ points 9 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks--those are NBA MVP numbers.
Right, that's why rings were not the only thing I cited. Amare has never helped his team as much as Tyson did in their championship run, and I've never seen a team fall apart when Amare left or was out like we're seeing. If you salivate over PPG (and really nothing else you cited is impressive), you should add lots of Amares and Melos, though.tyson is benefiting from the system he's in, he's a PnR big man, who swats rebounds. The only reason he won (the most debated)DPOY with the knicks, was simple because the knicks(under MDA) happen to be the worst defensive team in the league , and he made us respectable.
Those olympic gold medals don't mean sht to me, your playing with 14 of the best players in the world, and being coach by the absolute best in the business, so thats not all that impressive.
I don't see cuban even utter one single word about extended tyson, not one. He took tyson for a one yr rental and gets cap space, and a 4 million ray felton..thats pocket change for him.
And Amar'e didn't benefit from playing in SSOL and with a 2 time MVPI'm completed baffled fans storming down doors to defend D-Bags and Losers
Any player is going to benefit from playing in a system that fits his skill set, thats a complete no brainer. I couldn't care less if it was amare, grant hill, or santa, when positives out weigh negatives i'm going to lean on the positives like I would want people to do with me.
When people starting turning your positives into negatives, that means they don't like you and nothing you do matters, welcome to Hatersville..
I'm sure each of us have cross paths with people like that..don't be
Until Amar'e turns his negative[play defense] into a positive
He deserves all the hate he gets, he's an absolute delusional imbecile
F500ONE wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/12/17/amare-tyson...Stoudemire couldn’t help himself from pointing out Chandler needed help.“Tyson’s supposed to be a great defensive player, but they still sent double- and triple-teams at me,” Stoudemire said. “So that’s kind of a compliment if you ask me. For a guy known for his defensive presence the team still sends a double-team. It shows the coaching staff still has a lot of respect for my inside game.”
Something must have got back to StoudemireEven Tyson words after the game showed more concern for
What Melo is going through than anyone else on the teamThose comments are incredibly tacky and embarrassing from Amar'e
I mean who does he guard 1 on 1
55% 55% 55%
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knicks1248 wrote:mreinman wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amare is a beast offensively giving the touches, Tyson is not a beast defensively and definitely not offensively. tyson is a solid player, but he can't guard no one 1 on 1 either, lets not forget slow ass hibert schooled his ass in the playoffs.Tyson is a solid help defender, if he's playing with other solid defenders, but lets not get it twisted.
Amare has step up his defense this yr, 5 blocks one game, 5 steals the next, But the haters won't reconize it, they won't reconize that our overall defensive philosophy (let everybody shoot 3's just guard the paint)is so 90's. You remember the 90's when they were maybe 1 or 2 good 3 point shooters on a team, not 5 or 6 like it is in todays game.
Besides, if your not a stretch 4 your worthless on most teams
did you watch the game last night?
for every point that amare scores he gives up 5.
Also, did you see his fugly turnovers on the double and triple teams? Carlisle made him look like the tool that he is.
Why in the world do you defend this guy??? I don't get it.
It's not Amare I'm defending, it's the fact that you miss the 15 wide open 3's(45%) dallas made. we didn't lose the game because of amare's Defense.
As soon as you watch the entire game instead of focusing on a amare's lapses on defense, You will realize that he's a small part of the problem on defense. You guys hate amare so much that you turn a blind eye to our real issues. We have players on this roster that make amare look like Mutumbo
It's so narrow minded and box thinking to keep ridiculing every single word he says, especially when a he's talking about TYSON, who nobody lost a wink of sleep when he go traded.
do I just talk about amare? you don't see all my comments about other knick players?
Amare is just one of our many stinkers ... he is competing to be our dumbest player though