How do you guys blame anyone for losses, when that is the plan.
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..
Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys
Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..
Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money
Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago
I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys
To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]
Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??
How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms
How much money does he make in comparison to THJR
As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes
And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically
Due to conditioning issues is criminal
Bro, you are all over the place with this..
No I'm not you clearly understand what you did
Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR
Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part
No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...
holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..
Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys
Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..
Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money
Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago
I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys
To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]
Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??
How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms
How much money does he make in comparison to THJR
As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes
And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically
Due to conditioning issues is criminal
Bro, you are all over the place with this..
No I'm not you clearly understand what you did
Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR
Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part
No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...
Okay so Melo and Amare along with everyone else
Who's had good stats here and there this season are EMPTY stats
GOTCHA!
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..
Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys
Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..
Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money
Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago
I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys
To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]
Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??
How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms
How much money does he make in comparison to THJR
As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes
And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically
Due to conditioning issues is criminal
Bro, you are all over the place with this..
No I'm not you clearly understand what you did
Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR
Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part
No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...
Okay so Melo and Amare along with everyone else
Who's had good stats here and there this season are EMPTY stats
GOTCHA!
Melo and STAT have carried their teams to conference finals...stop it...But of course it meaningless..
holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:We lost 4 of those 5 games..
Aren't we 5-24 with Max guys and non Max guys
Correct and said max guy has been the main guy on many 50 win teams..
Therefore your ire-dig of 4 of 5 should lie on the guys making Max money
Not a 2nd yr player who just started receiving consistent playing time about a week ago
I'm including Amar'e and if you want Bargnani[for salary sakes] Max guys
To take off the Amber Alert sensitivity on said Max guy{Melo]
Bargs is not playing and isn't a max guy and Amare is hurt, why include them??
How many games did Amar'e play past 5gms
How much money does he make in comparison to THJR
As to Bargs, I said for salary purposes
And the fact he makes $12-13mil/yr and has missed every game practically
Due to conditioning issues is criminal
Bro, you are all over the place with this..
No I'm not you clearly understand what you did
Pinning-Highlighting 4 of 5 losses on THJR
Instead of the money makers is idiotic on your part
No you are wrong about what I was trying to do..He isn't the reason for the losses...18 pts per game towards a losing situation doesn't mean anything...18 points per towards a winning situation means something..Means u are contribute towards a winning situation...18 pts per on a bad team doesn't mean much...Affalo was lighting it up on the Magic last year...
Okay so Melo and Amare along with everyone else
Who's had good stats here and there this season are EMPTY stats
GOTCHA!
Melo and STAT has carried their teams to conference finals...stop it...
No one cares about their past of many moons ago
The contempt you have towards a 2nd yr player
Who's been treated like crap but showing signs of life
Is astounding and yet apropos
Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
Typo on "content", EDIT: contempt
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter?? But he scored 18 pts...So it's all good..
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
Typo on "content", EDIT: contempt
Something was up with Tim's shoulder. Since he stopped wearing that contraption his play has improved and he is taking the ball to the basket. Also, he is the only guy that had his option picked up. I think it was some combination of injury to Tim and showcasing Shump and JR in hopes of finding a trade partner.
holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??
J.R. inability to stay within the triangle
And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr
Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong
If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth
Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more
Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump
Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??
J.R. inability to stay within the triangle
And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr
Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong
If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth
Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more
Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump
Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing
Shump had 12 good games at the start of the season. See Ronnie Brewer. He just isn't that good. JR is incredibly talented and incredibly unstable and unreliable.
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??
J.R. inability to stay within the triangle
And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr
Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong
If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth
Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more
Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump
Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing
JR is probably running it best of anyone with his passes...Didn't Phil call him the leader of the guys off the bench including Tim JR just before he got hurt??..But hey, clearly this isn't an objective discussion...
holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??
J.R. inability to stay within the triangle
And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr
Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong
If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth
Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more
Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump
Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing
JR is probably running it best of anyone with his passes...Didn't Phil call him the leader of the guys off the bench including Tim JR just before he got hurt??..But hey, clearly this isn't an objective discussion...
Nope you have a sweet spot for J.R.
If J.R. and THJR are bench leaders in Phil's mind
Well THJR probably should have had a larger role
But Phil giving credit to J.R. is suspect at best
He wants to dump him badly, I understand THJR may not be your cup of tea
When we drafted him I figured he was nothing more than a novelty type player
Although he has parts in his game that suggest he could be better
Than what the surface shows, if not I have no undying attachment to him[move on to the next]
You're the one not being objective
What's he averaging for the season?
F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:F500ONE wrote:holfresh wrote:Treated like crap??..Since when are players entitled to the star treatment without earning it??...And what do u mean by the content you have toward 2nd yr player?
So Shump and Smith deserved to play
Well ahead of him in minutes based on what
They are better overall players..Were u going nuts when in the game thread when TimJR got pulled late in the game by Fisher..Did you see the 3 turnovers in like 5 possessions Tim had trying to force drive in the lane in the late 4th quarter??
J.R. inability to stay within the triangle
And Shump's 12gms stretch of train wreck play this yr
Then all of last yr suggest you're wrong
If THJR plays this way for half, third, or even fourth
Of this season then okay but we need to see a little more
Before final Declarations, we have enough data on Shump
Smith we've been trying to dump, that's the only reason he's playing
JR is probably running it best of anyone with his passes...Didn't Phil call him the leader of the guys off the bench including Tim JR just before he got hurt??..But hey, clearly this isn't an objective discussion...
Nope you have a sweet spot for J.R.
If J.R. and THJR are bench leaders in Phil's mind
Well THJR probably should have had a larger role
But Phil giving credit to J.R. is suspect at best
He wants to dump him badly, I understand THJR may not be your cup of tea
When we drafted him I figured he was nothing more than a novelty type player
Although he has parts in his game that suggest he could be better
Than what the surface shows, if not I have no undying attachment to him[move on to the next]
You're the one not being objective
So u think Phil Jackson is saying stuff he doesn't really mean???..ok..Tim's problem is that he wasn't driving the ball to the hole early in the year..Why isn't Tim my cup of tea??..Because I said he had a few turnovers or said JR is better??..OK..JR won six man 2 years ago and helped us to 54 wins..Thats objective..
JR is certainly better than THJ. The question should be who is fits this team better now and moving forward. Shumpert or JR? JR is a loose cannon
gunsnewing wrote:JR is certainly better than THJ. The question should be who is fits this team better now and moving forward. Shumpert or JR?
The triangle needs a ball handler to bring up the ball..JR and Shump can do that..Tim can't and wasn't driving to the hole early on, thus limited minutes, don't tell his fans that...But Tim has to keep adding to his game if he is going to be part of the triangle..Tim and Amare aren't participants the triangle most times...But if I say that, don't think I hate Tim, I like him..
If you had the Passing ability and supreme court awareness of JR
the atleticism, defence and passion of Shump
the ability to finish at the rim and shooting of THJR you would have a top 8 guard in the NBA. Who out of those three would come the closest to obtaining all of those attributes those becoming the superior player?(a little off topic but eh, I felt like saying it anyway)
Tim shoots less than 40% overall and 33% from three..Besides virtually no rebounds, steals or assist...But he is being dissed by not playing ahead of two more well rounded guards..well rounded term is used in a very loose manner while describing our SG situation...
TPercy wrote:If you had the Passing ability and supreme court awareness of JR
the atleticism, defence and passion of Shump
the ability to finish at the rim and shooting of THJR you would have a top 8 guard in the NBA. Who out of those three would come the closest to obtaining all of those attributes those becoming the superior player?(a little off topic but eh, I felt like saying it anyway)
JR. When he was finishing at the rim two years ago there were portions of the season where he looked like a max guy. Not sure he can ever overcome whatever the issues are that make him so inconsistent though. I think Shump is close to Terrence Williams and Williams is out of the league. I don't think he puts it together but I would love to be wrong about him.
