BRIGGS wrote:markvmc wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Bargnani is the savior. He will be the master of the triangle and the team will gel now that he is back. The Knicks will go 35-15 the rest of the way and make the playoffs...thus insuring mediocrity for the next 5 years.
Id take Bargnani back if he shows he can stay healthy. The 3-4mm I wouldve been willing to give Amare if he stayed healthy would be eligible for Bargnani IF he can stay healthy. A contract as in 2 years 8mm 1 year guaranteed. Im not writing Bargnani off neither should the Knicks. We have 50 games to go--he should be given the opportunity to show health and production in a positive team-like type way. We need cheap players. I'd bring back guys like Cole A and Bargs--no problem here IF they earn it. You start saying a healthy Bargs Okafor Dragic a healthy Carmelo and we could be much better much faster. I don't want to win but Im not rooting for any Knick player to fail. I already know that Calderon has passed his peak(which wasnt a great player anyway) and that we need a complete rebuild of the PG and likely SG positions. We will not have good guard play this year even at full strength--way too many inconsistent players proven over time. Knowing the Knicks they will rush Bargs into 38 minutes and he will break down instead of a methodical slow return.
The only reason to keep Bargnani is to watch Clyde consistently mispronounce his name.
If Bargnani would adhere to a low post 5 game and stays healthy a nd productive I would be willing to take him back. Health and playing the right way are paramount for him. NO ONE is giving AB a multi year contract. But if he shows that he can stay healthy and productive why not keep him?
YOur looking at it far too logically. Its more fun to just say "bargs sucks balls and has no value"......
If he can play, restore his career and enjoy NY we have his bird rights and he can make more money here and enjoy stability in a system.
If he wants money, he might get paid more else where. I don't want to see him go to the spurs and be part of that International happy team were they magically do better!
I want that system and culture HERE!!!
Nalod wrote:BRIGGS wrote:markvmc wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Bargnani is the savior. He will be the master of the triangle and the team will gel now that he is back. The Knicks will go 35-15 the rest of the way and make the playoffs...thus insuring mediocrity for the next 5 years.
Id take Bargnani back if he shows he can stay healthy. The 3-4mm I wouldve been willing to give Amare if he stayed healthy would be eligible for Bargnani IF he can stay healthy. A contract as in 2 years 8mm 1 year guaranteed. Im not writing Bargnani off neither should the Knicks. We have 50 games to go--he should be given the opportunity to show health and production in a positive team-like type way. We need cheap players. I'd bring back guys like Cole A and Bargs--no problem here IF they earn it. You start saying a healthy Bargs Okafor Dragic a healthy Carmelo and we could be much better much faster. I don't want to win but Im not rooting for any Knick player to fail. I already know that Calderon has passed his peak(which wasnt a great player anyway) and that we need a complete rebuild of the PG and likely SG positions. We will not have good guard play this year even at full strength--way too many inconsistent players proven over time. Knowing the Knicks they will rush Bargs into 38 minutes and he will break down instead of a methodical slow return.
The only reason to keep Bargnani is to watch Clyde consistently mispronounce his name.
If Bargnani would adhere to a low post 5 game and stays healthy a nd productive I would be willing to take him back. Health and playing the right way are paramount for him. NO ONE is giving AB a multi year contract. But if he shows that he can stay healthy and productive why not keep him?
YOur looking at it far too logically. Its more fun to just say "bargs sucks balls and has no value"......
If he can play, restore his career and enjoy NY we have his bird rights and he can make more money here and enjoy stability in a system.
If he wants money, he might get paid more else where. I don't want to see him go to the spurs and be part of that International happy team were they magically do better!
I want that system and culture HERE!!!
When he plays, he is a bad rebounder, low efficient, bad defender, and terrible 3 point shooter. Oh ... and he can't pass.
Lets not blame injuries for the fact that he is terrible.
he was actually decent on one v one last year.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:he was actually decent on one v one last year.
NBA aint one v one
The only thing that can help Bargs is the mythical contract year check chase.
I predict he is going to come out like a juggernaut
36pts 22rebs 6blks
even though he sucks real bad i hope he has a positive impact on the triangle offense. wonder if we'll see it.
dk7th wrote:even though he sucks real bad i hope he has a positive impact on the triangle offense. wonder if we'll see it.
I feel nothing, I don't think he matters either way
I guess I'd like to see him play hard enough
Where he makes me feel he has earned 65% of his pay that's left
I just want 5 guys who play hard on both ends of the floor. If we are 5-28 after that it will easier to accept. Losing for lack of effort is just unacceptable.
F500ONE wrote:dk7th wrote:even though he sucks real bad i hope he has a positive impact on the triangle offense. wonder if we'll see it.
I feel nothing, I don't think he matters either way
I guess I'd like to see him play hard enough
Where he makes me feel he has earned 65% of his pay that's left
ha ha truth be told i feel nothing too-- unless "mildly curious" what we will see is a feeling. knicks have managed to alienate a ton of fans, even the stupider ones that constitute the majority of the fanbase nowadays.
how did the fanbase get so dumb and when did it start happening?
I wanna see Bargs n Cole play together. I think they could make a good tandem. Cole makes up for Bargs poor help D and rebounding. Bargs can score in the midrange. This is a good system for Bargs. Even last yr he shot 48% from midrange.
Perimeter defense is nonexistant
1st Qtr 9:17
LAC 10 NYK 4
1st Qtr 6:12
LAC 17 NYK 9
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pass the ball MELO on the double team you fukking moron!
bargs can't even get into the game ... what a loser
mreinman wrote:pass the ball MELO on the double team you fukking moron!
Lol
cole has 3 assists ... stiff