Knicks · Official 2015 NBA Knick Draft Thread.... (page 34)

VCoug @ 5/19/2015 9:40 PM
nixluva wrote:They say Mudiay could still grow some more. His relatives are taller. Mudiay is a legit top prospect. I like Winslow as well. Winslow is a Jimmy Butler type. The workouts should be interesting.

Winslow is the guy I keep coming back to. Potentially, a better offensive Kawhi Leonard.

nixluva @ 5/19/2015 9:40 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
martin wrote:
magicTs wrote:Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Chris Bosh
Mike Conley

4 recent examples of the No4 draft pick. Absolutely no guarantee who the real star(s) are in this draft.

good catch

don't give me that bullshiat.
also #4, tyrus thomas, shaun livingston, drew gooden, eddy freakin curry, marcus fizer, lamar odom, antawn jamison, antonio daniels, etc

play the odds!! and lose some freakin games!! fisher is a bum! he can't even lose right

WTF? Russell and Mudiay are legit and also Winslow and Porzingis. It's a good draft.


legit or not... skilled big men do not grow on trees... all star point guards do!!

I can understand the disappointment. We all feel it but once you stop to think about it this draft has more talent and we're going to have a shot at one of them. We don't know who Philly will draft. Maybe we end up with Russell and he's a stud. There are so many possibilities.

Cartman718 @ 5/19/2015 9:41 PM
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

StarksEwing1 @ 5/19/2015 9:43 PM
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
martin wrote:
magicTs wrote:Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Chris Bosh
Mike Conley

4 recent examples of the No4 draft pick. Absolutely no guarantee who the real star(s) are in this draft.

good catch

don't give me that bullshiat.
also #4, tyrus thomas, shaun livingston, drew gooden, eddy freakin curry, marcus fizer, lamar odom, antawn jamison, antonio daniels, etc

play the odds!! and lose some freakin games!! fisher is a bum! he can't even lose right

WTF? Russell and Mudiay are legit and also Winslow and Porzingis. It's a good draft.


legit or not... skilled big men do not grow on trees... all star point guards do!!

I can understand the disappointment. We all feel it but once you stop to think about it this draft has more talent and we're going to have a shot at one of them. We don't know who Philly will draft. Maybe we end up with Russell and he's a stud. There are so many possibilities.

god bless your optimism but its ok to be pissed at the knicks they kinda deserve it
StarksEwing1 @ 5/19/2015 9:43 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

Fisher may be hiding out a while lol
nixluva @ 5/19/2015 9:44 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

But what if Mudiay is the next big time guard? What if they take Porzingis and he turns into Dirk? What if it's Winslow and he's A Kawhi?

CrushAlot @ 5/19/2015 9:45 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

Fisher may be hiding out a while lol
Maybe that is why he wouldn't say where he would be on draft night.
blkexec @ 5/19/2015 9:46 PM
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
martin wrote:
magicTs wrote:Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Chris Bosh
Mike Conley

4 recent examples of the No4 draft pick. Absolutely no guarantee who the real star(s) are in this draft.

good catch

don't give me that bullshiat.
also #4, tyrus thomas, shaun livingston, drew gooden, eddy freakin curry, marcus fizer, lamar odom, antawn jamison, antonio daniels, etc

play the odds!! and lose some freakin games!! fisher is a bum! he can't even lose right

WTF? Russell and Mudiay are legit and also Winslow and Porzingis. It's a good draft.

I actually like that Porzingis dude. Hes a better fit next to monroe and mello because hes a legit 3pt shooter....vs towns is somebody trying to develope a low post game who can shoot. Porzingis has dirk like skills who can score from all over. Winslow is like butler. ...Russell is like Steph. And theirs lots of trade value because the 4th pick has a lot of nice options. This might be a blessing in disguise. Wasnt an ok4 fan...towns is all potential but very risky. Russell defense is shaky. But theres nothing negative on Winslow who is a 19yr old man....can score from everywhere with lock down defense.

FAs always been the way phil prefers to build his team. The good thing is theres no lebron type talent we missed on. Just solid nba pros in the top 5. Winslow is the real star....the rest are risky.....

mreinman @ 5/19/2015 9:48 PM
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

But what if Mudiay is the next big time guard? What if they take Porzingis and he turns into Dirk? What if it's Winslow and he's A Kawhi?

half full? good for you.

Cartman718 @ 5/19/2015 9:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

But what if Mudiay is the next big time guard? What if they take Porzingis and he turns into Dirk? What if it's Winslow and he's A Kawhi?

kawhi is not that great, don't get ahead of yourself, when was the last time a euro big man won multiple championships. and by the way... duncan in his prime blows away dirk in his prime any day.

CrushAlot @ 5/19/2015 9:49 PM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
martin wrote:
magicTs wrote:Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Chris Bosh
Mike Conley

4 recent examples of the No4 draft pick. Absolutely no guarantee who the real star(s) are in this draft.

good catch

don't give me that bullshiat.
also #4, tyrus thomas, shaun livingston, drew gooden, eddy freakin curry, marcus fizer, lamar odom, antawn jamison, antonio daniels, etc

play the odds!! and lose some freakin games!! fisher is a bum! he can't even lose right

WTF? Russell and Mudiay are legit and also Winslow and Porzingis. It's a good draft.

I actually like that Porzingis dude. Hes a better fit next to monroe and mello because hes a legit 3pt shooter....vs towns is somebody trying to develope a low post game who can shoot. Porzingis has dirk like skills who can score from all over. Winslow is like butler. ...Russell is like Steph. And theirs lots of trade value because the 4th pick has a lot of nice options. This might be a blessing in disguise. Wasnt an ok4 fan...towns is all potential but very risky. Russell defense is shaky. But theres nothing negative on Winslow who is a 19yr old man....can score from everywhere with lock down defense.

FAs always been the way phil prefers to build his team. The good thing is theres no lebron type talent we missed on. Just solid nba pros in the top 5. Winslow is the real star....the rest are risky.....

Fraschilla loves Prozingis but also cautioned that a fan base that wanted a star might find the pick very frustrating. I don't know if he is the pick for the Knicks.
TPercy @ 5/19/2015 9:51 PM
Did Mudiay come to the combine?
blkexec @ 5/19/2015 9:53 PM
VCoug wrote:
nixluva wrote:They say Mudiay could still grow some more. His relatives are taller. Mudiay is a legit top prospect. I like Winslow as well. Winslow is a Jimmy Butler type. The workouts should be interesting.

Winslow is the guy I keep coming back to. Potentially, a better offensive Kawhi Leonard.

Instant chemistry and he was the real leader on that duke squad. He will do the same for us since melo will play the ok4 roll....its a natural fit.

Monroe c
Melo pf
Winslow sf
? sg
? pg

Maybe its just me....but i always thought winslow has as much #1 potential as ok4..towns...russell

All 4 have legit star potential. ...so im happy.

For those hating on fisher....what happens if winslow is a star.....do you now love fisher?

Coaches dont win games.....hungry d leaguers trying to feed their kids win games.

StarksEwing1 @ 5/19/2015 9:56 PM
Thank god we have our pick next year....
DJMUSIC @ 5/19/2015 9:57 PM

SADNESS ,,,

Thanks much Derrick Fisher ! You had not coached all season but had desired to coach the last week for wins! meaningless games
What a man! great ..

DJ thinks I am going out drinking.
This evening and pick 4 is too much!

Cartman718 @ 5/19/2015 9:57 PM
blkexec wrote:
VCoug wrote:
nixluva wrote:They say Mudiay could still grow some more. His relatives are taller. Mudiay is a legit top prospect. I like Winslow as well. Winslow is a Jimmy Butler type. The workouts should be interesting.

Winslow is the guy I keep coming back to. Potentially, a better offensive Kawhi Leonard.

Instant chemistry and he was the real leader on that duke squad. He will do the same for us since melo will play the ok4 roll....its a natural fit.

Monroe c
Melo pf
Winslow sf
? sg
? pg

Maybe its just me....but i always thought winslow has as much #1 potential as ok4..towns...russell

All 4 have legit star potential. ...so im happy.

For those hating on fisher....what happens if winslow is a star.....do you now love fisher?

Coaches dont win games.....hungry d leaguers trying to feed their kids win games.

that's right, that's why between mark jackson and steve kerr with virtually the same team, there was no difference in GSW wins.

VCoug @ 5/19/2015 9:59 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

But what if Mudiay is the next big time guard? What if they take Porzingis and he turns into Dirk? What if it's Winslow and he's A Kawhi?

kawhi is not that great, don't get ahead of yourself, when was the last time a euro big man won multiple championships. and by the way... duncan in his prime blows away dirk in his prime any day.

Kawhi really is that great. He's a game changing defensive player that can guard 1 through 3 and is a very good offensive player. The hope is Winslow is Kawhi but better offensively, he's already a better 3-point shooter. Assuming Towns, Okafor, and Russell go in the top 3 Winslow's the guy I'm leaning towards.

blkexec @ 5/19/2015 10:03 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
VCoug wrote:
nixluva wrote:They say Mudiay could still grow some more. His relatives are taller. Mudiay is a legit top prospect. I like Winslow as well. Winslow is a Jimmy Butler type. The workouts should be interesting.

Winslow is the guy I keep coming back to. Potentially, a better offensive Kawhi Leonard.

Instant chemistry and he was the real leader on that duke squad. He will do the same for us since melo will play the ok4 roll....its a natural fit.

Monroe c
Melo pf
Winslow sf
? sg
? pg

Maybe its just me....but i always thought winslow has as much #1 potential as ok4..towns...russell

All 4 have legit star potential. ...so im happy.

For those hating on fisher....what happens if winslow is a star.....do you now love fisher?

Coaches dont win games.....hungry d leaguers trying to feed their kids win games.

that's right, that's why between mark jackson and steve kerr with virtually the same team, there was no difference in GSW wins.

What does that have to do with d league players hungry for an nba contract. A rookie coach hungry to show he can win games. If anything the blame could be on phil for not shutting down gallo if he was bringing him back....cant blame a rookie coach or rookie players trying to make their mark on the nba.

Cartman718 @ 5/19/2015 10:03 PM
VCoug wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
magicTs wrote:At least whoever it is will come with far less pressure and expectations on their shoulders by the sound of things on here. Hopefully the Knicks fans evident disappointment will be a further motivation for someone like Mudiay or Winslow.

all i am saying is... you don't fuvk with duncan'ish potential.... if towns turns into a duncan, fisher will be hated for a long time like don nelson was by knicks fans after the steph curry pick

But what if Mudiay is the next big time guard? What if they take Porzingis and he turns into Dirk? What if it's Winslow and he's A Kawhi?

kawhi is not that great, don't get ahead of yourself, when was the last time a euro big man won multiple championships. and by the way... duncan in his prime blows away dirk in his prime any day.

Kawhi really is that great. He's a game changing defensive player that can guard 1 through 3 and is a very good offensive player. The hope is Winslow is Kawhi but better offensively, he's already a better 3-point shooter. Assuming Towns, Okafor, and Russell go in the top 3 Winslow's the guy I'm leaning towards.

so how many players each year develop into that guard multiple positions and be decent offensively and how many players each year suddenly become skilled big men.

holfresh @ 5/19/2015 10:03 PM
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory..
Cartman718 @ 5/19/2015 10:04 PM
blkexec wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
VCoug wrote:
nixluva wrote:They say Mudiay could still grow some more. His relatives are taller. Mudiay is a legit top prospect. I like Winslow as well. Winslow is a Jimmy Butler type. The workouts should be interesting.

Winslow is the guy I keep coming back to. Potentially, a better offensive Kawhi Leonard.

Instant chemistry and he was the real leader on that duke squad. He will do the same for us since melo will play the ok4 roll....its a natural fit.

Monroe c
Melo pf
Winslow sf
? sg
? pg

Maybe its just me....but i always thought winslow has as much #1 potential as ok4..towns...russell

All 4 have legit star potential. ...so im happy.

For those hating on fisher....what happens if winslow is a star.....do you now love fisher?

Coaches dont win games.....hungry d leaguers trying to feed their kids win games.

that's right, that's why between mark jackson and steve kerr with virtually the same team, there was no difference in GSW wins.

What does that have to do with d league players hungry for an nba contract. A rookie coach hungry to show he can win games. If anything the blame could be on phil for not shutting down gallo if he was bringing him back....cant blame a rookie coach or rookie players trying to make their mark on the nba.

i am just refuting that coaches don't win games. popovich isn't in the running every year just "by chance"

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