smackeddog wrote:
That would be decent news if the Knicks doctors could actually be trusted
People will want to come to the Knicks for all sorts of reasons (exhibit A: Dragic). I think Fisher/Jackson's Project Triangle are
way bigger deterrents for prospective players than an injured Melo. I don't give a damn about sneakers.
I wish him a speedy recovery. But what a mess.
For what its worth, the disappointment towards Melo is nothing compared to my out-and-out HATE for that fragile gangly draft bust Bargnani.
smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".
Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived
Whose contract was ridiculous again?
Absolutely disgusted.
It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
I'm amazed at how little Lin has been blasted by the media- he's being paid $15mil to be a poor bench player, and seems to be getting a pass for it compared to other players.
Where are you getting $15 million from?
http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/2
EDIT:
OK, I see: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/jeremy-lin/
$14.8 million salary, $8.4 million cap hit.
He is the 5th-highest paid PG, so yea, I guess that's ridiculous.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cash/point-guard/
DrAlphaeus wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".
Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived
Whose contract was ridiculous again?
Absolutely disgusted.
It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
I'm amazed at how little Lin has been blasted by the media- he's being paid $15mil to be a poor bench player, and seems to be getting a pass for it compared to other players.
Where are you getting $15 million from?
http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/2
EDIT:
OK, I see: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/jeremy-lin/
$14.8 million salary, $8.4 million cap hit.
He is the 5th-highest paid PG, so yea, I guess that's ridiculous.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cash/point-guard/
Yeah, but it's only ridiculous for one year. Melo has the largest basketball contract on the planet and it goes through his sixteenth year.
Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".
Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived
Whose contract was ridiculous again?
Absolutely disgusted.
It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
I'm amazed at how little Lin has been blasted by the media- he's being paid $15mil to be a poor bench player, and seems to be getting a pass for it compared to other players.
Where are you getting $15 million from?
http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/2
EDIT:
OK, I see: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/jeremy-lin/
$14.8 million salary, $8.4 million cap hit.
He is the 5th-highest paid PG, so yea, I guess that's ridiculous.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cash/point-guard/
Yeah, but it's only ridiculous for one year. Melo has the largest basketball contract on the planet and it goes through his sixteenth year.
True. But that money was better spent on buying out slacker players and having the highest paid injured-reserve list in the league.
Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".
Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived
Whose contract was ridiculous again?
Absolutely disgusted.
It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
I'm amazed at how little Lin has been blasted by the media- he's being paid $15mil to be a poor bench player, and seems to be getting a pass for it compared to other players.
Where are you getting $15 million from?
http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/2
EDIT:
OK, I see: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/jeremy-lin/
$14.8 million salary, $8.4 million cap hit.
He is the 5th-highest paid PG, so yea, I guess that's ridiculous.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cash/point-guard/
Yeah, but it's only ridiculous for one year. Melo has the largest basketball contract on the planet and it goes through his sixteenth year.
Melo's deal won't be a big deal after the new TV contract money kicks in and they increase the salary cap and percentages. It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be. We just need to get about the process of team building and that's about more than one player regardless of his contract.
nixluva wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".
Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived
Whose contract was ridiculous again?
Absolutely disgusted.
It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
I'm amazed at how little Lin has been blasted by the media- he's being paid $15mil to be a poor bench player, and seems to be getting a pass for it compared to other players.
Where are you getting $15 million from?
http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/2
EDIT:
OK, I see: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/jeremy-lin/
$14.8 million salary, $8.4 million cap hit.
He is the 5th-highest paid PG, so yea, I guess that's ridiculous.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cash/point-guard/
Yeah, but it's only ridiculous for one year. Melo has the largest basketball contract on the planet and it goes through his sixteenth year.
Melo's deal won't be a big deal after the new TV contract money kicks in and they increase the salary cap and percentages. It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be. We just need to get about the process of team building and that's about more than one player regardless of his contract.
No, it will still be a huge deal. If the cap hits the optimistic level projected, he'll still bey occupying almost 30% of it.
fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And most important of all who is going to want to come here to play with Melo?And most importantly who is going to want to come here to play with an INJURED Melo?
Nobody. We have already established today Billups is another guy who liked playing with Melo. I posted yesterday how Galloway has said Melo is great with the young guys. Now you can listen to what other NBA players say, or you can listen to what DK and Splat say. Your call.We have people on this site saying Jordan thinks Melo doesnt help his brand and hates him and poof, we learned that is more fabricated false Melo hate.
Need to blame? Pick Melo. Need to hate? Pick Melo. Not enough reasons to really dislike the guy? Make some up and post them on UK.
Some like to call this defending the guy. Others realize the BS gets old.
yeah sure i am going to listen to billups because he's a champion and a finals mvp. but i am also going to acknowledge that billups is a leader and was able to run those denver teams, and was the one who was responsible for the nuggets' reaching the wcf that season, largely because he was able to impose his will on the inferior basketball player that melo is.
note that he also acknowledged the success of the knicks 54-win season was due to kidd-- not melo.
so yeah i am listening to what billups has to say, and that is what any sane person will understand from his words.
the knicks have SUCKED without leadership if only because melo is controlling the action in the leadership vacuum, being the black hole that he is.
galloway says melo is great with the young guys. WOW fricking WEE. you know what else is great? 10 wins.
dk7th wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And most important of all who is going to want to come here to play with Melo?And most importantly who is going to want to come here to play with an INJURED Melo?
Nobody. We have already established today Billups is another guy who liked playing with Melo. I posted yesterday how Galloway has said Melo is great with the young guys. Now you can listen to what other NBA players say, or you can listen to what DK and Splat say. Your call.We have people on this site saying Jordan thinks Melo doesnt help his brand and hates him and poof, we learned that is more fabricated false Melo hate.
Need to blame? Pick Melo. Need to hate? Pick Melo. Not enough reasons to really dislike the guy? Make some up and post them on UK.
Some like to call this defending the guy. Others realize the BS gets old.
yeah sure i am going to listen to billups because he's a champion and a finals mvp. but i am also going to acknowledge that billups is a leader and was able to run those denver teams, and was the one who was responsible for the nuggets' reaching the wcf that season, largely because he was able to impose his will on the inferior basketball player that melo is.
note that he also acknowledged the success of the knicks 54-win season was due to kidd-- not melo.
so yeah i am listening to what billups has to say, and that is what any sane person will understand from his words.
the knicks have SUCKED without leadership if only because melo is controlling the action in the leadership vacuum, being the black hole that he is.
galloway says melo is great with the young guys. WOW fricking WEE. you know what else is great? 10 wins.
that is not what he said. Sounds like you read the article with zero objectivity.
Looks like it worked. Annoucing the surgery before the trade deadline was genius. Now no one is talking about Melo being out
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And most important of all who is going to want to come here to play with Melo?And most importantly who is going to want to come here to play with an INJURED Melo?
Nobody. We have already established today Billups is another guy who liked playing with Melo. I posted yesterday how Galloway has said Melo is great with the young guys. Now you can listen to what other NBA players say, or you can listen to what DK and Splat say. Your call.We have people on this site saying Jordan thinks Melo doesnt help his brand and hates him and poof, we learned that is more fabricated false Melo hate.
Need to blame? Pick Melo. Need to hate? Pick Melo. Not enough reasons to really dislike the guy? Make some up and post them on UK.
Some like to call this defending the guy. Others realize the BS gets old.
yeah sure i am going to listen to billups because he's a champion and a finals mvp. but i am also going to acknowledge that billups is a leader and was able to run those denver teams, and was the one who was responsible for the nuggets' reaching the wcf that season, largely because he was able to impose his will on the inferior basketball player that melo is.
note that he also acknowledged the success of the knicks 54-win season was due to kidd-- not melo.
so yeah i am listening to what billups has to say, and that is what any sane person will understand from his words.
the knicks have SUCKED without leadership if only because melo is controlling the action in the leadership vacuum, being the black hole that he is.
galloway says melo is great with the young guys. WOW fricking WEE. you know what else is great? 10 wins.
that is not what he said. Sounds like you read the article with zero objectivity.
on the contrary, he was an excellent poont guard, orchestrator, and leader. he is merely pointing out a pattern with jason kidd vis a vis those same qualities. the inference is certainly justified... unless you are distracted by other things from that season.
dk7th wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And most important of all who is going to want to come here to play with Melo?And most importantly who is going to want to come here to play with an INJURED Melo?
Nobody. We have already established today Billups is another guy who liked playing with Melo. I posted yesterday how Galloway has said Melo is great with the young guys. Now you can listen to what other NBA players say, or you can listen to what DK and Splat say. Your call.We have people on this site saying Jordan thinks Melo doesnt help his brand and hates him and poof, we learned that is more fabricated false Melo hate.
Need to blame? Pick Melo. Need to hate? Pick Melo. Not enough reasons to really dislike the guy? Make some up and post them on UK.
Some like to call this defending the guy. Others realize the BS gets old.
yeah sure i am going to listen to billups because he's a champion and a finals mvp. but i am also going to acknowledge that billups is a leader and was able to run those denver teams, and was the one who was responsible for the nuggets' reaching the wcf that season, largely because he was able to impose his will on the inferior basketball player that melo is.
note that he also acknowledged the success of the knicks 54-win season was due to kidd-- not melo.
so yeah i am listening to what billups has to say, and that is what any sane person will understand from his words.
the knicks have SUCKED without leadership if only because melo is controlling the action in the leadership vacuum, being the black hole that he is.
galloway says melo is great with the young guys. WOW fricking WEE. you know what else is great? 10 wins.
I'm amazed you would cozy up so much to Billups, it's obviously why...Bro, u have no shame...Dude is a first rate chucker who took some of the worst shots I have seen in the NBA, there is a reason LB was riding him so hard....I remember when he first joined the Knicks and started playing hero ball...But hey, he is a leader...
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:And most important of all who is going to want to come here to play with Melo?And most importantly who is going to want to come here to play with an INJURED Melo?
Nobody. We have already established today Billups is another guy who liked playing with Melo. I posted yesterday how Galloway has said Melo is great with the young guys. Now you can listen to what other NBA players say, or you can listen to what DK and Splat say. Your call.We have people on this site saying Jordan thinks Melo doesnt help his brand and hates him and poof, we learned that is more fabricated false Melo hate.
Need to blame? Pick Melo. Need to hate? Pick Melo. Not enough reasons to really dislike the guy? Make some up and post them on UK.
Some like to call this defending the guy. Others realize the BS gets old.
yeah sure i am going to listen to billups because he's a champion and a finals mvp. but i am also going to acknowledge that billups is a leader and was able to run those denver teams, and was the one who was responsible for the nuggets' reaching the wcf that season, largely because he was able to impose his will on the inferior basketball player that melo is.
note that he also acknowledged the success of the knicks 54-win season was due to kidd-- not melo.
so yeah i am listening to what billups has to say, and that is what any sane person will understand from his words.
the knicks have SUCKED without leadership if only because melo is controlling the action in the leadership vacuum, being the black hole that he is.
galloway says melo is great with the young guys. WOW fricking WEE. you know what else is great? 10 wins.
that is not what he said. Sounds like you read the article with zero objectivity.
really? DK and Melo and "no objectivity" in the same thread? you dont say.... DK is more fun when he says stuff like it doesnt take talent to be a good defender. Move along... nothing to learn here.
Melo in 16 playoff games during that run: 27ppg, 6rebs, 4assists, 2steals.... but yea, he only got those #s because Billups "willed" him to. I love how you advertise your brains and write the dumbests shit Ive ever read. Carry on 
Nothing against melo but this is why i was hoping to do a sign and trade this past summer. He could have gone to a contender if he took a little less and we could have done a true rebuild with more picks and assets
And we could've actuslly did something worthwhile during he summer and this trade deadline. Instead of just dumping Prigioni
StarksEwing1 wrote:Nothing against melo but this is why i was hoping to do a sign and trade this past summer. He could have gone to a contender if he took a little less and we could have done a true rebuild with more picks and assets
So over the summer you saw into the future and knew melo would need knee surgery? Even when his prior problem was his shoulder? Wow that's impressive.
TeamBall wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Nothing against melo but this is why i was hoping to do a sign and trade this past summer. He could have gone to a contender if he took a little less and we could have done a true rebuild with more picks and assets
So over the summer you saw into the future and knew melo would need knee surgery? Even when his prior problem was his shoulder? Wow that's impressive.
um...i Think you misinterpreted bigtime. My point had nothing to do with injuries. Personally i just wanted To try a full rebuild considering we have little picks
gunsnewing wrote:And we could've actuslly did something worthwhile during he summer and this trade deadline. Instead of just dumping Prigioni
exactly. Although i dont blame phil. Hei didnt resign jr smith and overpay for bargnani. The only mistake phil made was taking back calderons contract
CrushAlot wrote:
better than reading "he's phucked"
We will know when rehab starts and he starts running.
StarksEwing1 wrote:TeamBall wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Nothing against melo but this is why i was hoping to do a sign and trade this past summer. He could have gone to a contender if he took a little less and we could have done a true rebuild with more picks and assets
So over the summer you saw into the future and knew melo would need knee surgery? Even when his prior problem was his shoulder? Wow that's impressive.
um...i Think you misinterpreted bigtime. My point had nothing to do with injuries. Personally i just wanted To try a full rebuild considering we have little picks
If your point had nothing to do with injuries than why is Melo's injury the reason why you were hoping to do a sign and trade this past summer?
