That shizznit is not going to help us next season. We are doomed. Phil along with Fisher will be fired by next season if this team is not drastically improved
Knicks1969 wrote:That shizznit is not going to help us next season. We are doomed. Phil along with Fisher will be fired by next season if this team is not drastically improved
No but it does help somewhat long term and does save some money next yr. Fans that don't know basketball share your opinion.
It's called assets.
You can trade them or hold em.
We now have more assets and more cap room for an over 40 player planning to play overseas next year.
Probably one of Phils best trades. Pablo wasn't a keeper. So we got something for nothing.
2 picks is better than most would have expected. At best i thought 1 2nd round pick for Prig. I enjoyed his time here though. He was very important to the 2012-2013 success.
Knicks1969 wrote:That shizznit is not going to help us next season. We are doomed. Phil along with Fisher will be fired by next season if this team is not drastically improved
You actually went there:
"we are doomed"!!!!!
Nalod wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:That shizznit is not going to help us next season. We are doomed. Phil along with Fisher will be fired by next season if this team is not drastically improved
You actually went there:
"we are doomed"!!!!!
oh he went there. BANG
I had truely LOL at that one
blkexec wrote:It's called assets.You can trade them or hold em.
We now have more assets and more cap room for an over 40 player planning to play overseas next year.
Probably one of Phils best trades. Pablo wasn't a keeper. So we got something for nothing.
exactly.. and it continues PHil's trend of adding picks rather than trading them (Tyson trade).
Knixkik wrote:2 picks is better than most would have expected. At best i thought 1 2nd round pick for Prig. I enjoyed his time here though. He was very important to the 2012-2013 success.
Agreed. It's a shame he didn't come over to the NBA earlier in his career. Definitely a pro and a solid guy to have around. Glad we were able to get anything in return for him though. Thought he'd end up being waived in the off season to save on cash.
fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:It's called assets.You can trade them or hold em.
We now have more assets and more cap room for an over 40 player planning to play overseas next year.
Probably one of Phils best trades. Pablo wasn't a keeper. So we got something for nothing.
exactly.. and it continues PHil's trend of adding picks rather than trading them (Tyson trade).
We now have OKCs 2019, and the rockets 2017 and 2019- since those teams are good now, the later years are better for us- by 2019 Dwight might be broken down and KD may have left OKC.
fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:It's called assets.You can trade them or hold em.
We now have more assets and more cap room for an over 40 player planning to play overseas next year.
Probably one of Phils best trades. Pablo wasn't a keeper. So we got something for nothing.
exactly.. and it continues PHil's trend of adding picks rather than trading them (Tyson trade).
Yep. Also Shved makes more than Pablo. I believe if his rights are renounced it is more money off the cap. Good move all around. Shved gets a chance to audition. Phil likes big guards.
Knicks1969 wrote:That shizznit is not going to help us next season. We are doomed. Phil along with Fisher will be fired by next season if this team is not drastically improved
dude are you so fuckin lost.
What if I were to tell ya'll that, we didn't have a pick in any of those years till now?
This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal.
People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
nixluva wrote:This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal. People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
he has given away more than he has added ...
the early tally is a big net negative but its early.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal. People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
he has given away more than he has added ...
the early tally is a big net negative but its early.
We had no picks last year and he added 3 last draft and a 2019 2nd. 2 more in this deal. Plus he got some young prospects to look at. Considering what we want to do is rebuild that's not terrible. Not great but not terrible. I wouldn't say it's a net negative tho.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal. People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
he has given away more than he has added ...
the early tally is a big net negative but its early.
Wait, its early or are we dooomed?
Dred the Schved!
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal. People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
he has given away more than he has added ...
the early tally is a big net negative but its early.
We had no picks last year and he added 3 last draft and a 2019 2nd. 2 more in this deal. Plus he got some young prospects to look at. Considering what we want to do is rebuild that's not terrible. Not great but not terrible. I wouldn't say it's a net negative tho.
net negative because he gave up assets (mainly tyson) that could have gotten far more in return and to top it off, he got stuck with Calderon.
So, a good GM would / should have been in a much better position at this point as far as maximizing on the little that we had and compiling the most assets in exchange.
He had two big assets, Tyson and Melo and he has struck out big time on both.
Nalod wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:This was a very good deal. Some picks for Prigs and a young player who we can take a look at. I'm fine with it. I actually like Shved. He might be a good fit but if not no big deal. People complain about Phil but in his short time he's actually added some assets.
he has given away more than he has added ...
the early tally is a big net negative but its early.
Wait, its early or are we dooomed?
Dred the Schved!
I have never said doomed, I look at what happened so far and will judge as we / he goes.
it would be extremely silly to judge a guy after 1 terrible year out of 5.
Glad to see people finally value draft picks. My how the tide has turned since the Bargnani trade