EnySpree wrote:Life is random. Bosh is so young. I'm glad he was able to detect this and is being treated. Very scary.
After you traded Harden & Olnyk for Oladipo & Bosh this was inevitable. 
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:The foreign guy from the Nets had the same thing. Clots & Travel
Blood clots can sometimes form in your legs during air travel because you are immobile for long periods of time, often sitting in cramped spaces with little leg room. While commonly referred to as "economy class syndrome," the clinical term for this type of blood clot is deep vein thrombosis (DVT). The longer the flight, the more at risk you are for developing a clot. Flights lasting 8-10 hours or longer pose the greatest risk.
In some cases, the DVT will dissolve and go away on its own. However, in more serious cases, it can cause pain, swelling and warmth of the affected leg. Or it can break off and travel to the blood vessels of your lungs, causing pulmonary embolism (PE).
DVT and PE, collectively known as venous thromboembolism, are highly preventable (see prevention tips below). The U.S. Surgeon General has issued a Call to Action on DVT and PE to raise public awareness of these blood conditions and increase research on the causes, prevention, and treatment.
There are several symptoms that can be warning signs of blood clots, including the following:
Swelling of the leg, ankle, or calf
Redness or discoloration
Increased warmth over the skin
I actually got this from a long flight. It was scary as hell and I was not allowed to fly home until they put me through the ringer.
I was told that in the future, I should take a blood thinner before I fly.
This is actually the same for long road trips. The best way to prevent this is to get up and move around for, yes, every half hour. I know you want to sleep but you're health is far more important. You want to travel, the pain in the ars is a small price to pay. You need to get up and move around though.
This is why it's so dangerous to be sedentary too!
I believe this is what Serena Williams had a few years back. I always pay attention when I hear about blood clots cause my mother succumbed to a pulmonary embolism years ago.
Allanfan20 wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:The foreign guy from the Nets had the same thing. Clots & Travel
Blood clots can sometimes form in your legs during air travel because you are immobile for long periods of time, often sitting in cramped spaces with little leg room. While commonly referred to as "economy class syndrome," the clinical term for this type of blood clot is deep vein thrombosis (DVT). The longer the flight, the more at risk you are for developing a clot. Flights lasting 8-10 hours or longer pose the greatest risk.
In some cases, the DVT will dissolve and go away on its own. However, in more serious cases, it can cause pain, swelling and warmth of the affected leg. Or it can break off and travel to the blood vessels of your lungs, causing pulmonary embolism (PE).
DVT and PE, collectively known as venous thromboembolism, are highly preventable (see prevention tips below). The U.S. Surgeon General has issued a Call to Action on DVT and PE to raise public awareness of these blood conditions and increase research on the causes, prevention, and treatment.
There are several symptoms that can be warning signs of blood clots, including the following:
Swelling of the leg, ankle, or calf
Redness or discoloration
Increased warmth over the skin
I actually got this from a long flight. It was scary as hell and I was not allowed to fly home until they put me through the ringer.
I was told that in the future, I should take a blood thinner before I fly.
This is actually the same for long road trips. The best way to prevent this is to get up and move around for, yes, every half hour. I know you want to sleep but you're health is far more important. You want to travel, the pain in the ars is a small price to pay. You need to get up and move around though.
This is why it's so dangerous to be sedentary too!
Well then you'll never get there! I've read that you should take a break for 20 min for every 2 hrs of driving. That rate works well for my short attention span anyway.
as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literally
bosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
Good info. Two questions:
What do you mean long travelor surgery? Is this info. only relevant for someone who's had a recent surgery or for everyone? (Sorry, I'm confused about the word surgery.)
Should everyone take an aspirin before long car rides or just flights? And just after surgery or any time?
callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
I've always assumed caseloads is a Dr, but it may just be a clever name!
Bonn1997 wrote:callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
Good info. Two questions:
What do you mean long travelor surgery? Is this info. only relevant for someone who's had a recent surgery or for everyone? (Sorry, I'm confused about the word surgery.)
Should everyone take an aspirin before long car rides or just flights? And just after surgery or any time?
Post surgery you are in bed with little opportunity to get up and about.
For long trips you are also sedentary and in theory, you can be sitting in a seat for many hours.
Read a few things a while ago about standing up and working, instead of sitting. Might be a market for adjustable height work stations that allow you to sit or stand at your desk or computer.
Been taking an aspirin a day since the mid/late 80's, when my father had a heart issue and the early research on aspirin and the heart was first coming out, or at least being popularized (I think).
Helps with a number of health problems. Especially for men, but also for older woman (65+), according to a recent study.
callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
I thought Lovenox, Warfarin or Coumadin are some of the worst things you could put in your body, besides insulin, but I guess that's better than dying from an embolism. Does this mean he'll possibly need to be on some sort of blood thinner for good? Can they put stents in, and could he actually play with that sort of thing? I've got lots of relatives, mostly on my wife's side, that have to have their blood levels checked every other week or so to keep the levels right.
Bad stuff.
I will be surprised if this is from travel.
I always was under impression that NBA athletes are traveling 1st class and can be in comfortable settings on the plane.
If this is not the case the players themselves, owners, and organizations are beyond stupid.
Bus trip of 1 hour should not be an issue. Even 2-3 hours flight should not be.
It is not like they are flying to India or Australia.
Millions of folks are sitting in the office and at home all day long and do not have it.
I think it is more because of obesity and bad eating habits.
For athletes like Bosh it is more because of overworking the body among other things.
Bonn1997 wrote:callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
Good info. Two questions:
What do you mean long travelor surgery? Is this info. only relevant for someone who's had a recent surgery or for everyone? (Sorry, I'm confused about the word surgery.)
Should everyone take an aspirin before long car rides or just flights? And just after surgery or any time?
sorry for the delayed reply. any activity that consists of LONG period of non movement is a risk factor for blood clots. such as surgery or long travel rides. after the surgery when your moving around then youre ok
jrodmc wrote:callmened wrote:as resident physician of the site (am i the only dr here), im grateful that Chris Bosh is still with us. I have personally buried several patients who die from these blood clots. there are several risk factors: pregnancy, obesity, genetics (factor 5 leiden deficiency - which is common in north europeans), cancer and of course long travelor surgery. why long travel? because blood tends to clot if stagnant. thats why for every long trip, make sure you take walking breaks and an aspirin. cant give blood thinners during surgery cuz it causes a bloody mess...literallybosh will be fine, he just needs blood thinners. he needs to take Lovenox shots and Warfarin pills in the hospital (classic "bridge") and then when he leaves in a week or so, hell need warfarin for 3-6 months. thats why he cant play, any lil bump could cause significant bleeding. in the meantime, they should do some testing to make sure they know the true cause (most likely traveling)
I thought Lovenox, Warfarin or Coumadin are some of the worst things you could put in your body, besides insulin, but I guess that's better than dying from an embolism. Does this mean he'll possibly need to be on some sort of blood thinner for good? Can they put stents in, and could he actually play with that sort of thing? I've got lots of relatives, mostly on my wife's side, that have to have their blood levels checked every other week or so to keep the levels right.
Bad stuff.
3-6months of blood thinners for 1st offense. next offense is lifetime blood thinners
arkrud wrote:I will be surprised if this is from travel.
I always was under impression that NBA athletes are traveling 1st class and can be in comfortable settings on the plane.
If this is not the case the players themselves, owners, and organizations are beyond stupid.
Bus trip of 1 hour should not be an issue. Even 2-3 hours flight should not be.
It is not like they are flying to India or Australia.
Millions of folks are sitting in the office and at home all day long and do not have it.
I think it is more because of obesity and bad eating habits.
For athletes like Bosh it is more because of overworking the body among other things.
i dont know if this is from travel.travelling from miami to haiti is like 2 hours max. i have no idea how he got this - so i cant speculate. luckily they caught it in time.
callmened wrote:arkrud wrote:I will be surprised if this is from travel.
I always was under impression that NBA athletes are traveling 1st class and can be in comfortable settings on the plane.
If this is not the case the players themselves, owners, and organizations are beyond stupid.
Bus trip of 1 hour should not be an issue. Even 2-3 hours flight should not be.
It is not like they are flying to India or Australia.
Millions of folks are sitting in the office and at home all day long and do not have it.
I think it is more because of obesity and bad eating habits.
For athletes like Bosh it is more because of overworking the body among other things.
i dont know if this is from travel.travelling from miami to haiti is like 2 hours max. i have no idea how he got this - so i cant speculate. luckily they caught it in time.
I read that this can be a side effect of hormone therapy drugs among other things... So the fact that athletes are getting this is alarming.
Yes hormones can be a risk factor for blood clotting. That's why pregnancy and estrogen drugs for menopause and beast cancer drugs can be dangerous. Estrogen!
Is bosh using some hormone? I refuse to speculate and I'll give him the benefit of doubt. Btw...reports are he and wade went to Haiti AND Hawaii over the break. a 12 hr trip to Hawaii can definitely do it. Here in nyc where people get off from jfk, unfortunately people return from India china Australia with these nasty clots. Some we save...but many we dont. I don't think ppl realize how lucky bosh is.
I just wonder what Dragic would think.
friend of mine was drunk at her holiday party, fell down and sprained her ankle.
3 days later she passed out in the subway station. they said the sprain caused clots that spread to her lungs. she was hospitalized for 3 months. then another year walking around with a oxygen tank.
djsunyc wrote:friend of mine was drunk at her holiday party, fell down and sprained her ankle.3 days later she passed out in the subway station. they said the sprain caused clots that spread to her lungs. she was hospitalized for 3 months. then another year walking around with a oxygen tank.
I hate stuff like that- it's a scary thought you can be just walking around as usually and your body suddenly freaks out and nearly kills you. Hope she's okay now.
the snow and ice are terrible. old people slip fall and have brain hemorrhages never to wake up again. its said, what do you tell the college student visiting from school that her father will never wake up again. this is why i drench myself in knicks basketball
