fishmike wrote:nyk4ever wrote:fishmike wrote:nyk4ever wrote:so he went from a "tall pg who can't shoot" to a guy teams are going to bid up, in just a month? what will he be next?
what do you look for when offering the MLE? Veterans who no longer play at the level they once did but are still good in smaller stretches, or guys who might have upside. Shved strikes me as the perfect MLE type gamble for teams that can afford it. I mean what do we do around here but dig and try to find cheap guys with upside. Shved just led the Knicks to a win over the Spurs, and played very good D in doing so. People are going to start noticing very soon.
in reference to both you AND blxexec, i was more so talking about briggs, who i think totally jumped the gun on calling shved a bust before he even played a game with us. i actually love the way shved plays and think he's a perfect fit for our offense. his ability to drive and dish is almost uncanny and he always seems to find a way to penetrate and get a good shot at the hoop. i totally agree with your statement about him being a rhythym player, i feel like this offense gives him the opportunity to play in rhythm more so than any other place he's been. i would totally pay hi m to come back here, i think he fits in great as a backup PG for us
but yeah, my comment, was more directed at briggs and that i thought he jumped the gun calling him just a "tall pg who isn't very good" which i didnt think was very fair at all.
at the time that was fair no? Im not coming to brigg's rescue here, just saying at the time I think that comment was pretty fair and accurate. He was a scrap heap guy who we got for cheap to take a look at. Well that look is yielding some nice results. Lets see where it goes.
sure it was fair, just didn't think it was necessary.. it was kinda stating the obvious about a guy who didn't really play a whole lot elsewhere and clearly phil targeted him, so im usually more of the mind and sit back and wait before making proclamations like that. either way, i think we all hope shved continues to produce for the rest of this year and that we keep him, if so.
Hector wrote:blkexec wrote:Hector wrote:This season has me very confused, normally I'd love the guy
but a can't like him because he'll play just good enough to screw the Knicks into the 6th pick in the draft
where they select another Gallinari instead the real talent of the draft. Then he'll never do anything again.Hopefully it works out for the best. He's putting up numbers. It is March though - THE month for showing flashes of a real good game. Lots of players are killing it right now.
Your anger should be directed at Phil who actually cares about the draft...not Shevd whos full time job is to play ball...find a new contract and hopefully a basketball career. Im not understanding the hate towards players that play well enough to win. Its managements decision to tank...not players or a rookie coach. What am I missing? Please explain.
I don't mind the player. No hate here. I just prefer more of a 'wait & see' attitude.
Rather than ordaining him the next Dragic or whoever.
A season like this it gets kind of annoying how people are so desperate to grasp any ray of light.
The situation is perfect for numbers right now. I'm not sold. Some people think this teams shows heart, or whatever. I just think it is junk from all around the league, not one player worth watching for any real basketball skill set that will be of any significance in the future. Admunson's game last night king of annoyed me because it just feeds into the mirage.
(btw, it seems lots of guys are killing on the boards lately. The league is so soft right now.)
It's not really junk, we just need a real starting 5, I wouldn't mind a few these guys off my bench. When you put bench players in starter roles, your going to get inconsistent players, which is what we have from top to bottom. Shved is pretty solid, he's like a poor man Ginobli, Crafty, unorthodox player from overseas.
Shved is a nice player but not a starter on a good team..He is definitely better than Galloway as a player but not a better fit in the triangle..Shved looks to be more suited for a pick and roll offense because he can get to the cup and finish with consistency..I hope we keep him coming off the bench..We still need a starter...And who knows how effective he can be with limited minutes..
We got outbid for Lin, Copeland and Shawne Williams too..I'm not to worried about that..We have bigger fish to fry..
No one bid him up but we fcked up not keeping him--truth!!! We kept Jose and signed Kevin Seraphin-0-mistake!
and hes made out of paper bones...lol
Briggs spot on with his predictions again. Oh, wait a minute...
Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly).
Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
H1AND1 wrote:Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly). Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
dude there are people on here who are begging phil to sign Wroten, a guy who makes 29 out of a 100 jump shots in an empty gym.
This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
foosballnick wrote:This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
Well Frank Kaminski is a star in the making. Sharif Abdul Rahim is the piece the Knicks need. Anthony Randolph has star talent. Rodney White can anchor the wing, Mike Sweetney can anchor the frontcourt for years and Darren Collison is the best defensive PG in the NBA. Brook Lopez is the best center in the NBA.. Briggs says a lot of things. Some more fun than others.
knicks1248 wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly). Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
dude there are people on here who are begging phil to sign Wroten, a guy who makes 29 out of a 100 jump shots in an empty gym.
I know, I know, it just boggles the mind.
knicks1248 wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly). Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
dude there are people on here who are begging phil to sign Wroten, a guy who makes 29 out of a 100 jump shots in an empty gym.
and has a bum knee
Water under the bridge of NY Knicks fan... Mostly dirty polluted substance...
H1AND1 wrote:Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly). Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
I'm a big Shved fan and i do want him back but i completely understand what you're saying about him. We do over rate him right now because what he did for us was for a bad team and we pretty much just cut him loose to do what he wants cause our team didn't matter at that time anyway so there's no telling how good or bad he'd be on a team with good players around him. I'm not gonna get too crazy about his low shooting percentages because he never really got enough consistent time to get up enough shots to get into a groove before we got him and you can't expect a guy that only got a few minutes here and there to have a consistent shot so he needed that consistent time but i'm all for bringing him back to see what he could do on a good team with consistent minutes. I already know he'd be good at getting to the basket and to the foul line and making good passes but who knows if he could get a good shot with time.
fishmike wrote:foosballnick wrote:This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
Well Frank Kaminski is a star in the making. Sharif Abdul Rahim is the piece the Knicks need. Anthony Randolph has star talent. Rodney White can anchor the wing, Mike Sweetney can anchor the frontcourt for years and Darren Collison is the best defensive PG in the NBA. Brook Lopez is the best center in the NBA.. Briggs says a lot of things. Some more fun than others.
You're being nice cause there's many more predictions that never came true from his mouth as well.
I should start bumping my threads. I am almost never wrong.
fishmike wrote:foosballnick wrote:This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
Well Frank Kaminski is a star in the making. Sharif Abdul Rahim is the piece the Knicks need. Anthony Randolph has star talent. Rodney White can anchor the wing, Mike Sweetney can anchor the frontcourt for years and Darren Collison is the best defensive PG in the NBA. Brook Lopez is the best center in the NBA.. Briggs says a lot of things. Some more fun than others.
Yikes...really?
callmened wrote:fishmike wrote:foosballnick wrote:This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
Well Frank Kaminski is a star in the making. Sharif Abdul Rahim is the piece the Knicks need. Anthony Randolph has star talent. Rodney White can anchor the wing, Mike Sweetney can anchor the frontcourt for years and Darren Collison is the best defensive PG in the NBA. Brook Lopez is the best center in the NBA.. Briggs says a lot of things. Some more fun than others.
Yikes...really?
despite getting salty in his old age I enjoy Brigg's ramblings quite a bit. We joined this board around the same time way back in 2002 when the MSG boards we posted on were taken over by MSG gestapo. Briggs has thrown some great ideas out there like drafting Amare and signing Michael Redd. Then some less than great ones like I mentioned above. He is one hyper focused dude... like a Labrador staring at a tennis ball
fishmike wrote:callmened wrote:fishmike wrote:foosballnick wrote:This board is becoming a Brigg's tribute to Brigg's old threads.
Well Frank Kaminski is a star in the making. Sharif Abdul Rahim is the piece the Knicks need. Anthony Randolph has star talent. Rodney White can anchor the wing, Mike Sweetney can anchor the frontcourt for years and Darren Collison is the best defensive PG in the NBA. Brook Lopez is the best center in the NBA.. Briggs says a lot of things. Some more fun than others.
Yikes...really?
despite getting salty in his old age I enjoy Brigg's ramblings quite a bit. We joined this board around the same time way back in 2002 when the MSG boards we posted on were taken over by MSG gestapo. Briggs has thrown some great ideas out there like drafting Amare and signing Michael Redd. Then some less than great ones like I mentioned above. He is one hyper focused dude... like a Labrador staring at a tennis ball
I miss the old MGS boards, hey fish you remember Mustafa..(think that was his name) I think thats briggs on the low.
newyorker4ever wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Schved: career 35% shooter who is always injured who happened to get hot on the worst Knicks team in a decade over the course of 15 games or so (so people remember him more fondly). Isn't it interesting when the Knicks passed on him no other NBA team jumped to sign him and he went to Europe. This dude is so overrated by Knicks fans. It's incredible.
I'm a big Shved fan and i do want him back but i completely understand what you're saying about him. We do over rate him right now because what he did for us was for a bad team and we pretty much just cut him loose to do what he wants cause our team didn't matter at that time anyway so there's no telling how good or bad he'd be on a team with good players around him. I'm not gonna get too crazy about his low shooting percentages because he never really got enough consistent time to get up enough shots to get into a groove before we got him and you can't expect a guy that only got a few minutes here and there to have a consistent shot so he needed that consistent time but i'm all for bringing him back to see what he could do on a good team with consistent minutes. I already know he'd be good at getting to the basket and to the foul line and making good passes but who knows if he could get a good shot with time.
That's the thing though he he has 300+ NBA games under his wing and his % is horrid. It's probably safe to assume he just isn't a good shooter but I'll concede perhaps he was just having a bad shooting streak through his entire NBA career.
Let me also say I would have absolutely no problem taking a flier on Schved for the vet min. What I don't understand is when guys talk about him as the missing piece to our playoff run and/or some kindve savior in the backcourt who would fix all of the Knicks' woes. The guy is an end of the bench backup who has the skills to be a decent contributor IF he could ever find consistency and stay healthy. That's not a savior nor is it a player who you throw more than the vet min at nor is it someone you stay up at night about thinking about how he got away. Plenty of other FA guards who could give you what Schved gives you if you look at his career numbers on the whole.
