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BRIGGS @ 3/22/2015 3:10 PM
How can anyone watching this not believe that okafor is the best player in the nation for his age? Its really not even that close. I tipped to Kat for a week but it just takes watching how skilled okafor is to see things correctly.Okafor right now is better than caremlo no questions asked.
nixluva @ 3/22/2015 3:20 PM
People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.
mreinman @ 3/22/2015 3:24 PM
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

Vmart @ 3/22/2015 3:25 PM
Ok4 is the number one pick. Now let's pray for the Ping pong balls to fall.
BRIGGS @ 3/22/2015 3:25 PM
You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okafor is better than Carmelo right now. Today
franco12 @ 3/22/2015 3:27 PM
this is the first time I've really seen him play - and yes, he is just in a different league.

Whoever we get, I only hope they can be a franchise caliber player. Anything less, and we're looking at another 5 years of mediocrity.

mreinman @ 3/22/2015 3:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okafor is better than Carmelo right now. Today

Injured Carmelo or healthy Carmelo?

knickscity @ 3/22/2015 3:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okafor is better than Carmelo right now. Today

Okafor isnt better than Melo right now, come on dude.
mreinman @ 3/22/2015 3:29 PM
knickscity wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okafor is better than Carmelo right now. Today

Okafor isnt better than Melo right now, come on dude.

he has completely lost his mind

nixluva @ 3/22/2015 3:31 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.

mreinman @ 3/22/2015 3:33 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.

yeah of course ... a very similar and plausible scenario that "could" happen.

Same with the Sixers. Embiid is hurt this year and they now have a chance to draft the next Shaq.

BRIGGS @ 3/22/2015 3:36 PM
knickscity wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okaWay bws better than Carmelo right now. Today

Okafor isnt better than Melo right now, come on dude.

Way better for so many reasons

knickscity @ 3/22/2015 3:38 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.


Melo isnt handing the keys over to Jah like Robinson was willing to do with Duncan. the comparison imo is actually not a good one at all primarily because Jah is no Duncan.
nixluva @ 3/22/2015 3:38 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.

yeah of course ... a very similar and plausible scenario that "could" happen.

Same with the Sixers. Embiid is hurt this year and they now have a chance to draft the next Shaq.


Only difference is that Embiid hasn't had a chance to do anything of note in the NBA. No one thinks Sixers and goes Embiid. When it comes to the Knicks people immediately think of Melo as the star of the team. Even if we drafted Towns or Russell there would be some degree of shift towards the future when you add a young star draft pick to the team with their whole career ahead of them.
mreinman @ 3/22/2015 3:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
knickscity wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okaWay bws better than Carmelo right now. Today

Okafor isnt better than Melo right now, come on dude.

Way better for so many reasons

way better meaning that if you put him on the floor or a healthy melo, Ok4 will be a bigger impact?

nixluva @ 3/22/2015 3:39 PM
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.


Melo isnt handing the keys over to Jah like Robinson was willing to do with Duncan. the comparison imo is actually not a good one at all primarily because Jah is no Duncan.

Melo will be somewhat diminished and looking for some relief from carrying the load. I think you underestimate that factor.
knickscity @ 3/22/2015 3:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
knickscity wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:You can run your entire offense through Okafor. He's huge nimble and has incredible touch yet you can see that he's a willing passer. Its a no brained at 1 . Also I'll bet anyone here that okaWay bws better than Carmelo right now. Today

Okafor isnt better than Melo right now, come on dude.

Way better for so many reasons


None related to NBA basketball.
knickscity @ 3/22/2015 3:41 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.


Melo isnt handing the keys over to Jah like Robinson was willing to do with Duncan. the comparison imo is actually not a good one at all primarily because Jah is no Duncan.

Melo will be somewhat diminished and looking for some relief from carrying the load. I think you underestimate that factor.

If melo is diminished in any facet, this team is screwed. NBA teams wont having an issue defending Jah's scoring or at worst let him get his and defend the rest like everyone does with Al Jefferson.
TPercy @ 3/22/2015 3:42 PM
Already had a sticky thread on all march madness games...Oh well.
TPercy @ 3/22/2015 3:43 PM
Some moves that OK4 does might not work in the NBA but he is a great talent who I wouldn't mind taking as 3rd choice.
nixluva @ 3/22/2015 3:47 PM
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:People bashed me for saying that our draft pick could be the new face of the franchise and that once drafted everything switches from merely the present and Melo to the hope and future that our draft pick would give the franchise. It's no different than what happened with David Robinson and Tim Duncan when he was drafted. IMO it's just the natural transition that fans make. There's no way that if we drafted OK4 that people wouldn't view him as the franchise.

David Robinson and Tim Duncan? How?

First, Ok4 is good but please for heavens sake don't put him in Duncan's category. And, who on our team is David Robinson?

And, if ok4 will go #1 which certainly seems like a very strong possibility, and you / we want him, we only have a 1 in 4 shot at getting him.

So ... easy with the comparison and early excitement.

JESUS!!! This is what i'm talking about. Every single time someone mentions great players the immediate response is to assume that we're saying that the player will be as good as said great players. IT'S THE DAMNED SITUATION and not the players per se that i'm comparing. Melo is already here and the star of the team. Robinson was there and the star of the team. When Duncan came in he became the franchise and so i'm saying that OK4 would become the franchise if he came in even tho at present Melo is the star of the team.


Melo isnt handing the keys over to Jah like Robinson was willing to do with Duncan. the comparison imo is actually not a good one at all primarily because Jah is no Duncan.

Melo will be somewhat diminished and looking for some relief from carrying the load. I think you underestimate that factor.

If melo is diminished in any facet, this team is screwed. NBA teams wont having an issue defending Jah's scoring or at worst let him get his and defend the rest like everyone does with Al Jefferson.

What are you even talking about. The team is not screwed if Melo comes back and isn't looking to carry the team as in the past. For one thing there will be more talent around him and he won't have to try and force things. That's the entire point of this off season. I think perhaps you have not been watching the Knicks and fully understanding how the Triangle works. They won't be forcing the ball to OK4 and allowing the defense to just set up against him. Perhaps you should rethink this position cuz that's not how this system works at all. The constant ball and player movement will actually make it easier for OK4 not harder.
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