Knicks · Ricky Ledo (page 11)
SupremeCommander wrote:I look at Ledo, The Greek, and Early and it gives me hope for the future. These are the types that would never, ever, ever have got to the Knicks in years past. These are high upside players. Not saying they pan out but I like the idea of them being at the end of the bench as they have the potential to become more important than that
As time goes on other Knicks fans and media will grow to respect the talent evaluation of Phil and his staff. These guys are focused on a very specific set of qualities they want in players and it's very much about well rounded players with multiple skills. They want guys with energy and hustle too. Little by little you can kind of see certain trends developing with the kind of players they're targeting. Can't wait for this summer to see what they do with the roster.
I'm very happy for Ledo and hope he continues to develop. Maybe he can be a big part of this new team going forward.
SupremeCommander wrote:I look at Ledo, The Greek, and Early and it gives me hope for the future. These are the types that would never, ever, ever have got to the Knicks in years past. These are high upside players. Not saying they pan out but I like the idea of them being at the end of the bench as they have the potential to become more important than thatman you said it. Unsigned but I would add Shved to that list, and even call Galloway a success. Galloway looks like a nice bench player for years to come.
This is a very very nice departure from guys like Jon Bender, Shawn Williams (although I liked him), etc... I would say Copeland was a nice find but a bit of a one trick pony as well. I do feel like we are building up a nice young pipeline. Some will pan, others wont, but its soooooooo nice to be in the mix
fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I look at Ledo, The Greek, and Early and it gives me hope for the future. These are the types that would never, ever, ever have got to the Knicks in years past. These are high upside players. Not saying they pan out but I like the idea of them being at the end of the bench as they have the potential to become more important than thatman you said it. Unsigned but I would add Shved to that list, and even call Galloway a success. Galloway looks like a nice bench player for years to come.This is a very very nice departure from guys like Jon Bender, Shawn Williams (although I liked him), etc... I would say Copeland was a nice find but a bit of a one trick pony as well. I do feel like we are building up a nice young pipeline. Some will pan, others wont, but its soooooooo nice to be in the mix
Stop being so optimistic
Rookie wrote:Isn't Ledo's 2nd 10 day contract up today?
You missed my earlier post:
nixluva wrote:Javascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/NY_KnicksPR/status/585821153568157697
Click here to view the TweetGood for him. I think he's worth a longer look and hope he comes to Summer League as well.
Swishfm3 wrote:fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I look at Ledo, The Greek, and Early and it gives me hope for the future. These are the types that would never, ever, ever have got to the Knicks in years past. These are high upside players. Not saying they pan out but I like the idea of them being at the end of the bench as they have the potential to become more important than thatman you said it. Unsigned but I would add Shved to that list, and even call Galloway a success. Galloway looks like a nice bench player for years to come.This is a very very nice departure from guys like Jon Bender, Shawn Williams (although I liked him), etc... I would say Copeland was a nice find but a bit of a one trick pony as well. I do feel like we are building up a nice young pipeline. Some will pan, others wont, but its soooooooo nice to be in the mix
Stop being so optimistic
seriously, fish. you're gonna make bonn, triplethreat, dk, guns and splat (with his new username) puke. we don't have any good young players, the sky is still falling!
holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..
D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
nixluva wrote:Javascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/NY_KnicksPR/status/585821153568157697
Click here to view the TweetGood for him. I think he's worth a longer look and hope he comes to Summer League as well.
Is there an additional benefit to signing him for the remainder of the season? I have no idea here but wonder if it gives the team any extra incentive - rights, financial, etc.
holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..
This is what happens when standards are lowered. I like them all except Early but lets wait until we have an actual team to start jizzin over them
Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
They fired the coach Kevin Whitted so obviously they weren't happy with the way he was developing players or the record
holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
Exactly. You don't see Major League teams worrying about the records of their minor league affiliates. What matters is how their prospects are developing. Other teams can fill their rosters with guys who are more mature, but have little chance of making the big club. Some teams, like the Rockets, want to test out team strategies as well as develop players. I'm not saying winning on the D-League level wouldn't be nice, but it's not the driver for many clubs.
holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
Who are these teams that are now winning because of D Leaguers?..The difference between our 54 win team and the 37 win team was a vet bench...Seems like eons ago..
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
Who are these teams that are now winning because of D Leaguers?..The difference between our 54 win team and the 37 win team was a vet bench...Seems like eons ago..
You miss the point entirely. It's about building sustainability. You can have your vet team that allows you to win games, but you should also be bringing along players in your system that you can plug in when needed. It's a cost effective way of forging sustainability. That's what the Spurs do and what the Knicks are now looking to establish as well. We don't want one good year followed by losing.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
Who are these teams that are now winning because of D Leaguers?..The difference between our 54 win team and the 37 win team was a vet bench...Seems like eons ago..
You miss the point entirely. It's about building sustainability. You can have your vet team that allows you to win games, but you should also be bringing along players in your system that you can plug in when needed. It's a cost effective way of forging sustainability. That's what the Spurs do and what the Knicks are now looking to establish as well. We don't want one good year followed by losing.
No, you are missing some the point..You are trying to build with fringe NBA players, hoping to catch lightening in a bottle..You were talking about bringing back 9 guys from this current team in other threads..When you are talking 5/6 of these guys at the end of the bench..We will be losing plenty...
The Spurs added one guy that played in the D League, Danny Green..And I don't know if he came directly from the D League..Hardly a reason to view it as the holy grail..
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
Who are these teams that are now winning because of D Leaguers?..The difference between our 54 win team and the 37 win team was a vet bench...Seems like eons ago..
You miss the point entirely. It's about building sustainability. You can have your vet team that allows you to win games, but you should also be bringing along players in your system that you can plug in when needed. It's a cost effective way of forging sustainability. That's what the Spurs do and what the Knicks are now looking to establish as well. We don't want one good year followed by losing.
No, you are missing some the point..You are trying to build with fringe NBA players, hoping to catch lightening in a bottle..You were talking about bringing back 9 guys from this current team in other threads..When you are talking 5/6 of these guys at the end of the bench..We will be losing plenty...
The Spurs added one guy that played in the D League, Danny Green..And I don't know if he came directly from the D League..Hardly a reason to view it as the holy grail..
Kinda hard to use Danny Green as an example. He was a 4 year college player and was drafted. He has d-=league time, no even a full season's worth...nowhere near it.
knickscity wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:Vmart wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys are creaming over the idea of adding multiple dudes that was part of a 10-36 "D League" team..I don't get it..D-league isn't about wins and losses but more about player development.
Well if you are bring up 3 guys that is on a 10-36 team, why would the results be any different in the NBA where winning matters..
They have a lot of shuffling with players. For instance Galloway gets called up he is their best player. Once he gets called up the team is left with a spot open. Same thing in baseball winning is important in the minors but players shuffle up and Down from minors and majors. Winning is secondary to player development.
At some point it has to be about winning..Young players don't win..I'm not willing to watch D Leageurs develop over the next five years to see who pans out..Philly and Minny have immensely more talented young players and are losing..Its not fun to watch..
Really??? This is the way you look at a team finally embracing player development? The very thing that winning franchises have used to help support their winning ways. I really don't understand the take you have here. We have a bunch of Rookies and 2nd year guys who we need to develop and it's not really about the W/L column when it comes to them. We're going to be addressing the top tier talent on this team this summer. But that doesn't mean it's not important to establish a developmental regime for the franchise. That's what this is all about. We'll be looking for players to upgrade the D League team as well as the Big team. We need a LOT of players in order to do that. Think about how many good players it will take to have a winning D League and Pro Team. You need to get with the program cuz I don't think you understand what's going on here.
Who are these teams that are now winning because of D Leaguers?..The difference between our 54 win team and the 37 win team was a vet bench...Seems like eons ago..
You miss the point entirely. It's about building sustainability. You can have your vet team that allows you to win games, but you should also be bringing along players in your system that you can plug in when needed. It's a cost effective way of forging sustainability. That's what the Spurs do and what the Knicks are now looking to establish as well. We don't want one good year followed by losing.
No, you are missing some the point..You are trying to build with fringe NBA players, hoping to catch lightening in a bottle..You were talking about bringing back 9 guys from this current team in other threads..When you are talking 5/6 of these guys at the end of the bench..We will be losing plenty...
The Spurs added one guy that played in the D League, Danny Green..And I don't know if he came directly from the D League..Hardly a reason to view it as the holy grail..
Kinda hard to use Danny Green as an example. He was a 4 year college player and was drafted. He has d-=league time, no even a full season's worth...nowhere near it.
Further making my point...