Knicks1969 wrote:With time you will all think differently of Larkin. In college he was a hell of a shooter. this was his rookie season; please keep that in mind
he played in 50 games last year and stunk then also. He's not an NBA player
Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Trust has to be earned but I am willing to wait and see.
Michael Adams - he was a little dude I really liked a lot.
Shane larkin is no Michael Adams.
The sooner he out of here, the better.
Bonn1997 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Trust has to be earned but I am willing to wait and see.
Sometimes you guys talk about him as if he is a significant other. It doesn't really matter if he is trusted or not, as we are not decision makers, we all have to wait and see what happens. I choose to enjoy the rebuild/reload (whatever you want to call it) journey as opposed to staying afloat on a mediocre level as it really has been rely done in NY.
As far as next year is concerned, I anticipate an improvement but not to the point of contention. For me it's about wanting him to start to build a solid foundation for years to come. Not sure what would constitute wanting Phil fired.
foosballnick wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Trust has to be earned but I am willing to wait and see.
Sometimes you guys talk about him as if he is a significant other. It doesn't really matter if he is trusted or not, as we are not decision makers, we all have to wait and see what happens. I choose to enjoy the rebuild/reload (whatever you want to call it) journey as opposed to staying afloat on a mediocre level as it really has been rely done in NY.
As far as next year is concerned, I anticipate an improvement but not to the point of contention. For me it's about wanting him to start to build a solid foundation for years to come. Not sure what would constitute wanting Phil fired.
Of course, nothing we write here really matters.
If Phil gives us something to be excited about, I'll enjoy it.
knicks1248 wrote:It's really hard to judge anyone on this roster because they all have roles they shouldn't be in.
which should make it really enticing for FA's, no?
foosballnick wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Trust has to be earned but I am willing to wait and see.
Sometimes you guys talk about him as if he is a significant other. It doesn't really matter if he is trusted or not, as we are not decision makers, we all have to wait and see what happens. I choose to enjoy the rebuild/reload (whatever you want to call it) journey as opposed to staying afloat on a mediocre level as it really has been rely done in NY.
As far as next year is concerned, I anticipate an improvement but not to the point of contention. For me it's about wanting him to start to build a solid foundation for years to come. Not sure what would constitute wanting Phil fired.
Im close to this also... although I do expect the team to much improved, at the very least from a talent standpoint. I expect a good player from the draft, a healthy Melo and $25mm or whatever the cap space is to yield a better team. We have some young guys and some will stick and others wont. But Phil has taken some lumps so I expect some results next.
I dont have a line... like anything less than 35 wins and Phil should go. Its fluid... many different scenarios can play out or almost play out.
One thing is for sure though.. with the high pick and tons of cap space we should start getting a vision of the team he wants to create. We should also get some vision into what kind of recruiter he is. Apparently he/they expect Melo to be a big saleman for them so I have no idea how that plays out.
fishmike wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:With time you will all think differently of Larkin. In college he was a hell of a shooter. this was his rookie season; please keep that in mind
he played in 50 games last year and stunk then also. He's not an NBA player
I wouldn't say he isn't an NBA player. too harsh.
TPercy wrote:fishmike wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:With time you will all think differently of Larkin. In college he was a hell of a shooter. this was his rookie season; please keep that in mind
he played in 50 games last year and stunk then also. He's not an NBA player
I wouldn't say he isn't an NBA player. too harsh.
yeah ... I predict that he will play in the NBA for many years.
Also, he will be a billion times better in a PnR offense. The triangle is a terrible offense for his (and many many others)
mreinman wrote:TPercy wrote:fishmike wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:With time you will all think differently of Larkin. In college he was a hell of a shooter. this was his rookie season; please keep that in mind
he played in 50 games last year and stunk then also. He's not an NBA player
I wouldn't say he isn't an NBA player. too harsh.
yeah ... I predict that he will play in the NBA for many years.
Also, he will be a billion times better in a PnR offense. The triangle is a terrible offense for his (and many many others)
Why? His mid range jumper is not very good. He take half his shots from 16+ and doesnt hit a very good %
He's a likable player and kid. He plays very hard, but he cant finish around the basket, his shooting isnt very good so half of his physical gifts (and the guys fast as a flea) are negated. He will have some good moments but I dont see the staying power in this league. He will have to show something offesively he hasnt shown so far.
Other than Schveyd-- although highly promising still needed developmental time is our PG next year?
Right now we have more holes than the Titanic
BRIGGS wrote:Other than Schveyd-- although highly promising still needed developmental time is our PG next year?Right now we have more holes than the Titanic
Titanic only had one hole
SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
BigRedDog wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
if you look at all the words that I typed, you will see that I trust his plan, as of right now. If next year plays out as poorly as next year then I think it is more than fair to judge him on a complete lack of production. Let's be real -- this year was a fucking joke. I have faith that this was by design in order to get a great pick in a loaded draft... but that doesn't change the fact that this year was a joke and it would take an insanely great offseason to have a good-to-great year next year.
SupremeCommander wrote:BigRedDog wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
if you look at all the words that I typed, you will see that I trust his plan, as of right now. If next year plays out as poorly as next year then I think it is more than fair to judge him on a complete lack of production. Let's be real -- this year was a fucking joke. I have faith that this was by design in order to get a great pick in a loaded draft... but that doesn't change the fact that this year was a joke and it would take an insanely great offseason to have a good-to-great year next year.
We all know that this was NOT by design.
mreinman wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigRedDog wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
if you look at all the words that I typed, you will see that I trust his plan, as of right now. If next year plays out as poorly as next year then I think it is more than fair to judge him on a complete lack of production. Let's be real -- this year was a fucking joke. I have faith that this was by design in order to get a great pick in a loaded draft... but that doesn't change the fact that this year was a joke and it would take an insanely great offseason to have a good-to-great year next year.
We all know that this was NOT by design.
I don't buy that. They blew the team up and didn't ask for much in return. I think Phil got folks like you to buy the propaganda so that Jimmy D could sell his tickets and the Knicks could get a decent pick in a loaded draft. Maybe I'm wrong but I am not someone that believe what they print in Newsday
SupremeCommander wrote:mreinman wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigRedDog wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
if you look at all the words that I typed, you will see that I trust his plan, as of right now. If next year plays out as poorly as next year then I think it is more than fair to judge him on a complete lack of production. Let's be real -- this year was a fucking joke. I have faith that this was by design in order to get a great pick in a loaded draft... but that doesn't change the fact that this year was a joke and it would take an insanely great offseason to have a good-to-great year next year.
We all know that this was NOT by design.
I don't buy that. They blew the team up and didn't ask for much in return. I think Phil got folks like you to buy the propaganda so that Jimmy D could sell his tickets and the Knicks could get a decent pick in a loaded draft. Maybe I'm wrong but I am not someone that believe what they print in Newsday
this is not from Newsday. This is from Phils mouth.
C'mon man ... its obvious that the season did not start with the intention to tank. Nobody thinks that.
SupremeCommander wrote:mreinman wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigRedDog wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Kudos to Phil for not compounding the problems from the bad Tyson trade!
I'll give you credit for trying hard to find something to praise Phil for
if next year is as bad as this year... I will be clamoring for the firing squad. He will have proven himself to be someone that is just cashing paychecks... I am willing to trust him until that point though
Really just here cashing a paycheck??? Sounds like splats crap. You might say Phil isn't doing a good job but do you really think Phil doesn't care about this job or his reputation? We don't know Phil personally but everything you ever read about Phil is his integrity , work ethic and his credibility. Attack him professionally don't attack him personally.
if you look at all the words that I typed, you will see that I trust his plan, as of right now. If next year plays out as poorly as next year then I think it is more than fair to judge him on a complete lack of production. Let's be real -- this year was a fucking joke. I have faith that this was by design in order to get a great pick in a loaded draft... but that doesn't change the fact that this year was a joke and it would take an insanely great offseason to have a good-to-great year next year.
We all know that this was NOT by design.
I don't buy that. They blew the team up and didn't ask for much in return. I think Phil got folks like you to buy the propaganda so that Jimmy D could sell his tickets and the Knicks could get a decent pick in a loaded draft. Maybe I'm wrong but I am not someone that believe what they print in Newsday
He even said that his trades last off-season backfired. Or was pretending that this year didn't go as planned just part of the plan too?
fishmike wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:With time you will all think differently of Larkin. In college he was a hell of a shooter. this was his rookie season; please keep that in mind
he played in 50 games last year and stunk then also. He's not an NBA player
Exactly. He was a shooter in college because he played against competition that wasn't as tall/athletic/agile etc. He could get his shot off because as a borderline NBA talent he was better than 90% of all the other college players. The jump between college and the pros is huge. I think that is forgotten a lot. Against NBA defenses a guy who isnt 6 feet tall is going to have a very difficult time unless he is off the charts freakishly talented and athletic.
