Knicks · Minnesota is set (page 2)

poker players don't care if their chances at hitting a flush drop from 19.6 percent chance to 10 percent. Its a freakin crap shoot anyway.

Can we still finish 4th? lol

I will take the 36% chance

What is the % 2nd worst gets the 6th pick? I'm hearing it's pretty high.

gunsnewing wrote:What is the % 2nd worst gets the 6th pick? I'm hearing it's pretty high.

it's not possible. lowest 2nd can fall to is 5th.

only the top three picks are determined by ping pong balls, after top three picks it is purely based on record.

gunsnewing wrote:What is the % 2nd worst gets the 6th pick? I'm hearing it's pretty high.

Cant. You can only drop a max of 3 spots.

The lottery is only for the top 3 spots. After that its order. So if the Knicks are picking 2, and 3 other teams win the lottery (1-3) then worst Knicks pick is 4. If the Knicks have the 3rd worst record they could fall to 6, but its a 4% chance.

If the Knicks are 3rd worst the math is close to 50/50 meaning 50% they are 1/2/3 vs. 50% they are 4/5

reading comprehension is pretty weak around here...

SupremeCommander wrote:reading comprehension is pretty weak around here...

but emotions are high.

The worst part is if we get the 5th pick and draft another euro bust we will forget look back that these last few games. Like we do with the Curry draft.

finishing with the worst record and winding up with picks 2 or 3 would be tolerable. You just chalk it up to the luck of the draw at that point.

My guess is emotions will be extremely high if we don't get a top pick and draft another bust. You can bank on it

gunsnewing wrote:The worst part is if we get the 5th pick and draft another euro bust we will forget look back that these last few games. Like we do with the Curry draft.

finishing with the worst record and winding up with picks 2 or 3 would be tolerable. You just chalk it up to the luck of the draw at that point.

My guess is emotions will be extremely high if we don't get a top pick and draft another bust. You can bank on it

did you suggest suggest Gallo is a bust? DK will NOT be inviting you to dinner with chatter like that and Ive heard TFK is a good cook

gunsnewing wrote:The worst part is if we get the 5th pick and draft another euro bust we will forget look back that these last few games. Like we do with the Curry draft.

finishing with the worst record and winding up with picks 2 or 3 would be tolerable. You just chalk it up to the luck of the draw at that point.

My guess is emotions will be extremely high if we don't get a top pick and draft another bust. You can bank on it

It's a lot of luck, man. What if they picked no.1 overall and Okafor was a bust? Or Towns was a bust?

What can you do - you look back at a lot of drafts and the best player in the draft is rarely taken no.1 overall.

Would you rather have Derrick Rose (no.1 overall) or Russell Westbrook (no.4 overall) at this point?

Would you rather have Anthony Bennett (no.1 overall) or Victor Oladipo (no.2 overall)?

Would you rather have Greg Oden (no.1 overall) or Mike Conley (no.4 overall)?

Would you rather have Andrea Bargnani (no.1 overall) or... sorry, I just puked on my keyboard.

Let's be honest, the only thing that matters is the lottery itself. We can't control it and never could. It as always going to be based on pure chance. We were never guaranteed anything.
We can't worry about Minnesota. All we can do is hope that we get a good player in the draft to go along with our returning players and whoever we get in Free Agency. This is a good draft to have a pick period.

We were the worst team in the league for 95% of the season so yes drafting another Gallinari would be extremely disappointing. We need a game changer.

Btw I never been a fan of Gallinari, the inclusion of Mozgov last minute is what unnerved me. Gallinari has been playing great. If he can stay healthy he can definitely be a player.

Now we can spend the rest of the thread fighting over Melo-Gallinari

Has Minnesota been blatantly tanking? If so I hope karma comes back to bite em

nixluva wrote:Let's be honest, the only thing that matters is the lottery itself. We can't control it and never could. It as always going to be based on pure chance. We were never guaranteed anything.
We can't worry about Minnesota. All we can do is hope that we get a good player in the draft to go along with our returning players and whoever we get in Free Agency. This is a good draft to have a pick period.

It was the chance to be awarded the 4th pick which was important. After that it was all gravy.

Vmart wrote:

nixluva wrote:Let's be honest, the only thing that matters is the lottery itself. We can't control it and never could. It as always going to be based on pure chance. We were never guaranteed anything.
We can't worry about Minnesota. All we can do is hope that we get a good player in the draft to go along with our returning players and whoever we get in Free Agency. This is a good draft to have a pick period.

It was the chance to be awarded the 4th pick which was important. After that it was all gravy.

That was the hope, but in truth we could still end up with the #1 pick. It's pure luck.

gunsnewing wrote:We were the worst team in the league for 95% of the season so yes drafting another Gallinari would be extremely disappointing. We need a game changer.

Btw I never been a fan of Gallinari, the inclusion of Mozgov last minute is what unnerved me. Gallinari has been playing great. If he can stay healthy he can definitely be a player.

Now we can spend the rest of the thread fighting over Melo-Gallinari

Folks around here would have been arguing over Rose, Beasley, or maybe even Mayo if we had the #1 pick 2008, and I seem to recall that 2008 was considered a fairly good draft crop before the draft.

I'm also pissed off and frustrated that we are putting ourselves into a potential draft situation that almost seems unfair given the course of this season and what we, as fans, have been put through, but there seems to be no guarantee that a top 3 pick gives us a franchise quality player.

Yea that is the thing that irritates me more than anything. I realize it's a crapshoot

gunsnewing wrote:How many times has the 3rd team won the lottery in span? If it's more than 2nd then I'm rooting for us to win and philly lose so we finish 3rd

Let's be blunt

Derek Fisher is an Ass, a huge Zero! of course you don't need to say u trying to tank games a..same as no reason to boost
Your weak ego and team guys in public media for praises of them trying to win out. what a fool !

Mr Arrogant coach of knickerbockers a..just talks a tad to flipping much, not on court for coaching
While then had few times of Carmelo A., then Shumpert and JR. Smith on court at same times.
His weak behind still could not be vocal enough to get ny to beat few weak clubs on games at Nyk home court.

His lame behind hasn't really ever coached one minute in 2015 year. Finally last 2 games he got vocal
On TV sets to point of nearly getting technical foul in both Orlando and Atlanta games.
Why .???????????????

The fart Fisher chronicles

Start and this m..thr fu,..cka stated we have players and our team Don't come out
To throw game, his Ass is sure to be goner next 2015/2016 start

Fisher early last midweek gives spiel that his KNICKERBOCKERS will ,can win 60 plus games next 2015/2016 season.

I can't stand fisher it aint cause of his bad roster,
It is cause all of his way to stick his Lakers finger at newyorkers ,,,cause he just dont freaking get it here
What true blue nyk fans has endured in NBA ridicule.

I am also happy to say this coach as_s, will not benefit from a summer of drafts free agents and
Better roster next yr., cause he flat out can't coach and wont develop into one in NYC knickerbocker land.
Thus Phil J, saying in media 'forget triangle offense ' for now until the players ,roster upgrades is
Indication how much faith Phil J will have in Derek Fisher.. in promoting n improving our knickerbockers team.

Glad Fisher you paved your way outta here in about November , December 2015.
When knickerbockers improved roster falters Derek Fisher will be gone with the wind .

FISHER Falters in big process picture of short term nyk fortunes in NBA June 2015 draft.
Since coach can care less bout the draft process, I could care less when he is replaced....

Horrible nyk 2 wins ......sick
Coach is proud of 2 team wins and we're Screwed !!!!badly by Lowy Timberwolves again in line for another first round draft pick
For 100th time.

DJMUSIC wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:How many times has the 3rd team won the lottery in span? If it's more than 2nd then I'm rooting for us to win and philly lose so we finish 3rd

Let's be blunt

Derek Fisher is an Ass, a huge Zero! of course you don't need to say u trying to tank games a..same as no reason to boost
Your weak ego and team guys in public media for praises of them trying to win out. what a fool !

Mr Arrogant coach of knickerbockers a..just talks a tad to flipping much, not on court for coaching
While then had few times of Carmelo A., then Shumpert and JR. Smith on court at same times.
His weak behind still could not be vocal enough to get ny to beat few weak clubs on games at Nyk home court.

His lame behind hasn't really ever coached one minute in 2015 year. Finally last 2 games he got vocal
On TV sets to point of nearly getting technical foul in both Orlando and Atlanta games.
Why .???????????????

The fart Fisher chronicles

Start and this m..thr fu,..cka stated we have players and our team Don't come out
To throw game, his Ass is sure to be goner next 2015/2016 start

Fisher early last midweek gives spiel that his KNICKERBOCKERS will ,can win 60 plus games next 2015/2016 season.

I can't stand fisher it aint cause of his bad roster,
It is cause all of his way to stick his Lakers finger at newyorkers ,,,cause he just dont freaking get it here
What true blue nyk fans has endured in NBA ridicule.

I am also happy to say this coach as_s, will not benefit from a summer of drafts free agents and
Better roster next yr., cause he flat out can't coach and wont develop into one in NYC knickerbocker land.
Thus Phil J, saying in media 'forget triangle offense ' for now until the players ,roster upgrades is
Indication how much faith Phil J will have in Derek Fisher.. in promoting n improving our knickerbockers team.

Glad Fisher you paved your way outta here in about November , December 2015.
When knickerbockers improved roster falters Derek Fisher will be gone with the wind .

FISHER Falters in big process picture of short term nyk fortunes in NBA June 2015 draft.
Since coach can care less bout the draft process, I could care less when he is replaced....

Horrible nyk 2 wins ......sick
Coach is proud of 2 team wins and we're Screwed !!!!badly by Lowy Timberwolves again in line for another first round draft pick
For 100th time.

You seem to feel strongly about all of this, don't you...

DJMUSIC wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:How many times has the 3rd team won the lottery in span? If it's more than 2nd then I'm rooting for us to win and philly lose so we finish 3rd

Let's be blunt

Derek Fisher is an Ass, a huge Zero! of course you don't need to say u trying to tank games a..same as no reason to boost
Your weak ego and team guys in public media for praises of them trying to win out. what a fool !

Mr Arrogant coach of knickerbockers a..just talks a tad to flipping much, not on court for coaching
While then had few times of Carmelo A., then Shumpert and JR. Smith on court at same times.
His weak behind still could not be vocal enough to get ny to beat few weak clubs on games at Nyk home court.

His lame behind hasn't really ever coached one minute in 2015 year. Finally last 2 games he got vocal
On TV sets to point of nearly getting technical foul in both Orlando and Atlanta games.
Why .???????????????

The fart Fisher chronicles

Start and this m..thr fu,..cka stated we have players and our team Don't come out
To throw game, his Ass is sure to be goner next 2015/2016 start

Fisher early last midweek gives spiel that his KNICKERBOCKERS will ,can win 60 plus games next 2015/2016 season.

I can't stand fisher it aint cause of his bad roster,
It is cause all of his way to stick his Lakers finger at newyorkers ,,,cause he just dont freaking get it here
What true blue nyk fans has endured in NBA ridicule.

I am also happy to say this coach as_s, will not benefit from a summer of drafts free agents and
Better roster next yr., cause he flat out can't coach and wont develop into one in NYC knickerbocker land.
Thus Phil J, saying in media 'forget triangle offense ' for now until the players ,roster upgrades is
Indication how much faith Phil J will have in Derek Fisher.. in promoting n improving our knickerbockers team.

Glad Fisher you paved your way outta here in about November , December 2015.
When knickerbockers improved roster falters Derek Fisher will be gone with the wind .

FISHER Falters in big process picture of short term nyk fortunes in NBA June 2015 draft.
Since coach can care less bout the draft process, I could care less when he is replaced....

Horrible nyk 2 wins ......sick
Coach is proud of 2 team wins and we're Screwed !!!!badly by Lowy Timberwolves again in line for another first round draft pick
For 100th time.

You know there is so much Bull Crap tossed at Fisher and to be honest all I see is a group of players that are still playing hard for him. They have shown that they really do understand the system and what he wants them to do. The new culture is being established even now. They actually have been defending well and giving max effort. That is worth a heck of a lot more than people are giving him credit for. A lot of these players will be back next year and they already have the right mental approach to the game that they'll need when the roster is upgraded next year.

Galloway has been developing nicely. Larkin has grown. Even THJ, Acy and Early have shown signs of life. Those are important factors since we need young cheap players who we know can thrive in this system. It's unfortunate that it cost us a higher lottery position but the team playing better isn't completely a bad thing. I would've accepted a close loss, but the Hawks underestimated the Knicks and they lost.

On top of all that we just don't know what pick we'll get. Nothing is guaranteed.

Pretty sure 3rd worst record has won more than any other pre lottery position, by a good margin too. Maybe that's our reason for winning haha