Knicks · I could see Aldridge coming here (page 11)
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
I thought that you called it boring.
Also, I thought that you did not respect in within TS
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
I thought that you called it boring.
Also, I thought that you did not respect in within TS
Please provide the link..
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
man you really want to squirm out of this so badly. just face facts: scoring via free throws, by getting to the line, is GREAT for a player and his team. flopping is a relevant yet separate matter-- the free throw in and of itself is extremely effective in the playoffs especially, and efficiency is an agenda that not only coaches are campaigning for but top-flight players as well.
volume scorers-- guys who chuck without conscience and generally don't share the rock or get to the line enough-- are being phased out, and it's a boon to the game.
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
I think he's confusing you with me- I'm the one who doesn't find watching people shoot free throws exciting. I've said numerous times Harden is a good player and deserves MVP, but I still don't actually enjoy watching him play. Not sure why the metrics crew find this so controversial.
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
man you really want to squirm out of this so badly. just face facts: scoring via free throws, by getting to the line, is GREAT for a player and his team. flopping is a relevant yet separate matter-- the free throw in and of itself is extremely effective in the playoffs especially, and efficiency is an agenda that not only coaches are campaigning for but top-flight players as well.
volume scorers-- guys who chuck without conscience and generally don't share the rock or get to the line enough-- are being phased out, and it's a boon to the game.
Hey, they are a great way of scoring, but they ain't entertaining- thats why they never make the highlight reels.
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
I remember you claiming it's not a reliable way to score, especially against playoff level defenses
dk7th wrote:this is rich... DK, your a true winnerholfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
In other news Tyson was really showed he's the xfactor. Invisible.
fishmike wrote:dk7th wrote:this is rich... DK, your a true winnerholfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
In other news Tyson was really showed he's the xfactor. Invisible.
you should be able to identify with holfresh's approach to honest dialogue, fishflop.
fishmike wrote:dk7th wrote:this is rich... DK, your a true winnerholfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
In other news Tyson was really showed he's the xfactor. Invisible.
did tyson forget there was an elimination game last night? 6rebs in 36minutes - yikes! maybe he was a little under the weather...
dk7th wrote:dialogue implies an exchange of ideas. As you have zero BB knowledge and even less understanding of athletic competition Ill pass. Your best off sticking to your skill set... blaming Melo for your life's misery and pining for TFK's return. Cheersfishmike wrote:dk7th wrote:this is rich... DK, your a true winnerholfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
In other news Tyson was really showed he's the xfactor. Invisible.
you should be able to identify with holfresh's approach to honest dialogue, fishflop.
Dallas was put together by Cube. Dude is starphuching it. Time to move on from Dirk and use him as a role player. Knicks tried to surround vets around Ewing was similar.
Rondo and Stat did not help. Parsons getting hurt sucked, but it happens.
So today we ok with the Tyson trade?
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
I remember you claiming it's not a reliable way to score, especially against playoff level defenses
Yes indeed, I did say that in reference the Mr. Harden's flopping, that it wouldn't work in the playoffs if I remember correctly..
dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
man you really want to squirm out of this so badly. just face facts: scoring via free throws, by getting to the line, is GREAT for a player and his team. flopping is a relevant yet separate matter-- the free throw in and of itself is extremely effective in the playoffs especially, and efficiency is an agenda that not only coaches are campaigning for but top-flight players as well.
volume scorers-- guys who chuck without conscience and generally don't share the rock or get to the line enough-- are being phased out, and it's a boon to the game.
I never said scoring from the free throw line wasn't a great thing..It is..My two points of contention were TS% and Harden's flopping..The point of calling a player efficient for scoring 20 points on 10 shots..I then said well they don't count the attempts that turn into free throws..So essentially he took 15 shots, 5 not counted...So how is that efficient??..But somehow the dynamic duo found a way to twist it that I didn't like free throws and I think it's boring..Bravo...
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
man you really want to squirm out of this so badly. just face facts: scoring via free throws, by getting to the line, is GREAT for a player and his team. flopping is a relevant yet separate matter-- the free throw in and of itself is extremely effective in the playoffs especially, and efficiency is an agenda that not only coaches are campaigning for but top-flight players as well.
volume scorers-- guys who chuck without conscience and generally don't share the rock or get to the line enough-- are being phased out, and it's a boon to the game.
I never said scoring from the free throw line wasn't a great thing..It is..My two points of contention were TS% and Harden's flopping..The point of calling a player efficient for scoring 20 points on 10 shots..I then said well they don't count the attempts that turn into free throws..So essentially he took 15 shots, 5 not counted...So how is that efficient??..But somehow the dynamic duo found a way to twist it that I didn't like free throws and I think it's boring..Bravo...
Yep, take away the free throws and Harden is just a good player. I don't really agree with TS% lumping in free throws because I think it's slightly misleading. The problem with being reliant on your ability to draw FTs is that it puts you at the mercy of the refs- last years the refs decided not to make as many calls for Harden as they did in the regular season, this year they have decided they will. Still its an effective way to score if the refs aren't on some sort of agenda.
fishmike wrote:dk7th wrote:dialogue implies an exchange of ideas. As you have zero BB knowledge and even less understanding of athletic competition Ill pass. Your best off sticking to your skill set... blaming Melo for your life's misery and pining for TFK's return. Cheersfishmike wrote:dk7th wrote:this is rich... DK, your a true winnerholfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
In other news Tyson was really showed he's the xfactor. Invisible.
you should be able to identify with holfresh's approach to honest dialogue, fishflop.
your calling me ignorant in these matters-- i can think of no higher praise. skål!
smackeddog wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:at least he does not shoot lots of boring foul shots.long jump shots on the other hand are really really exciting and old school which gets me going
did you see the stat at halftime where they pointed out that harden is seond all time in fta for a season?
guess who was first moses frickin malone!!! i suppose we can infer that holfresh must have loathed malone's game.
If u were honest men, you and mreinman wouldn't twist my comments to suit your rhetoric..U would man up..I have stated time and time again I don't like the flops, when have I said otherwise??
never mind the flops, what about the concept of scoring by taking free throws???? that was also a main beef of yours.
Find it..where is it a beef of mine..Please provide the link!!
okay so you are in fact okay with free throws as a form of scoring?
You are weak in character to even try that..U have never seen it from me but you try to imply it's something I said..Weak!!
checkmate
Like I said, less than honest, claiming something not earned...
man you really want to squirm out of this so badly. just face facts: scoring via free throws, by getting to the line, is GREAT for a player and his team. flopping is a relevant yet separate matter-- the free throw in and of itself is extremely effective in the playoffs especially, and efficiency is an agenda that not only coaches are campaigning for but top-flight players as well.
volume scorers-- guys who chuck without conscience and generally don't share the rock or get to the line enough-- are being phased out, and it's a boon to the game.
I never said scoring from the free throw line wasn't a great thing..It is..My two points of contention were TS% and Harden's flopping..The point of calling a player efficient for scoring 20 points on 10 shots..I then said well they don't count the attempts that turn into free throws..So essentially he took 15 shots, 5 not counted...So how is that efficient??..But somehow the dynamic duo found a way to twist it that I didn't like free throws and I think it's boring..Bravo...
Yep, take away the free throws and Harden is just a good player. I don't really agree with TS% lumping in free throws because I think it's slightly misleading. The problem with being reliant on your ability to draw FTs is that it puts you at the mercy of the refs- last years the refs decided not to make as many calls for Harden as they did in the regular season, this year they have decided they will. Still its an effective way to score if the refs aren't on some sort of agenda.
Agreed..And again, I'm not against advanced stats, I just don't see the point..It's not telling me anything I don't already know from traditional stats, if anything, it giving me less information..