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Cartman718 @ 5/20/2015 9:06 AM
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

or we could have just lost 2 more games and had the overall #1 pick

crzymdups @ 5/20/2015 9:09 AM
Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

fishmike @ 5/20/2015 9:10 AM
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

or we could have just lost 2 more games and had the overall #1 pick

Or we could have won more and picked 2 or 3.
fishmike @ 5/20/2015 9:10 AM
crzymdups wrote:Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

I think thats just life... unfolding right before our eyes
knicks1248 @ 5/20/2015 9:17 AM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

I think thats just life... unfolding right before our eyes

there's been so many superstars not pick # 1, 2, or 3....in fact LBJ and Duncan were the only #1's to actually win a title in over 15 yrs..

fishmike @ 5/20/2015 9:30 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

I think thats just life... unfolding right before our eyes

there's been so many superstars not pick # 1, 2, or 3....in fact LBJ and Duncan were the only #1's to actually win a title in over 15 yrs..

Knicks can get a very good player at 4, probably Mudiay. He's got just as high a ceiling as anyone in the draft. Not my first choice though.. 4th actually
knicks1248 @ 5/20/2015 9:37 AM
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

I think thats just life... unfolding right before our eyes

there's been so many superstars not pick # 1, 2, or 3....in fact LBJ and Duncan were the only #1's to actually win a title in over 15 yrs..

Knicks can get a very good player at 4, probably Mudiay. He's got just as high a ceiling as anyone in the draft. Not my first choice though.. 4th actually

I never want towns or oak, i want a PG who can run a team, finish around the rim, create for others, and doesn't need a coach coach calling out ever play.

Reggie/mudaiy
THJ/mudiay
Melo
Monroe

that's a solid core, and a good off season

knicks1248 @ 5/20/2015 9:38 AM
I would consult with Isiah..lol
H1AND1 @ 5/20/2015 9:43 AM
crzymdups wrote:Hate to say it, but sometimes I think this thing is rigged.

Cleveland loses Lebron and gets three straight number one overall picks.

Minnesota loses Love and immediately gets the number one pick.

Lakers have Kobe winding down and need to rebuild - they jump up to two to get a franchise center.

Knicks are an embarrassment to the league and the league keeps the new superstars away from them.

Except the last sentence doesn't fit the conspiracy theory. If the league was actively fixing these things wouldn't it want it's largest market teams to have success? So the league hooks up the Lakers but not NY? Why would the NBA continually screw over NY for years on end? Winning removes any stink very quickly. Look at the Clippers and how they went from laughingstock to perennial playoff contender. If the league wanted to be more successful they'd want a playoff team in NY and if they were actively pulling strings behind the scenes why would they let NY be moribund year after year?

anrst @ 5/20/2015 9:46 AM
Best point Berman's ever made

Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman

I would not blame Derek Fisher for this. Fisher did quite a bit in dropping a lot of winnable games in November and December.

Cartman718 @ 5/20/2015 9:48 AM
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

or we could have just lost 2 more games and had the overall #1 pick

Or we could have won more and picked 2 or 3.

which was more probable... and easier?
mreinman @ 5/20/2015 9:55 AM
anrst wrote:Best point Berman's ever made

Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman

I would not blame Derek Fisher for this. Fisher did quite a bit in dropping a lot of winnable games in November and December.

so lets not blame fisher for november and december

NYKBocker @ 5/20/2015 9:57 AM
We had the 2nd best chance of winning the lottery. It just wasn't in the cards.
mreinman @ 5/20/2015 9:59 AM
NYKBocker wrote:We had the 2nd best chance of winning the lottery. It just wasn't in the cards.

right ... and we stupidly gave up the 1st best chance

fishmike @ 5/20/2015 10:42 AM
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

or we could have just lost 2 more games and had the overall #1 pick

Or we could have won more and picked 2 or 3.

which was more probable... and easier?
either.
fishmike @ 5/20/2015 10:43 AM
mreinman wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:We had the 2nd best chance of winning the lottery. It just wasn't in the cards.

right ... and we stupidly gave up the 1st best chance

no we didnt. We didnt "give up" anything.
nyk4ever @ 5/20/2015 10:44 AM
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:We had the 2nd best chance of winning the lottery. It just wasn't in the cards.

right ... and we stupidly gave up the 1st best chance

no we didnt. We didnt "give up" anything.

most of these guys are too dense to realize that. the talk on here is pathetic.

smackeddog @ 5/20/2015 10:45 AM
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

Ha, true! I don't think people get that if we had finished with the worst record, the butterfly effect would have meant the outcome of the lottery would have been different- we could have still fallen to 4th. I was/am angry about giving up the worst record, but I know you are at the mercy of chance regardless of what you do.

nyk4ever @ 5/20/2015 10:47 AM
smackeddog wrote:
fishmike wrote:we should have won more games. Then we would have moved up to 2 or 3.

Ha, true! I don't think people get that if we had finished with the worst record, the butterfly effect would have meant the outcome of the lottery would have been different- we could have still fallen to 4th. I was/am angry about giving up the worst record, but I know you are at the mercy of chance regardless of what you do.

100% true, well said.

Knicks1969 @ 5/20/2015 10:47 AM
Dumb organization not thinking ahead; that is all I can say about that. They always have to make things hard on themselves. Frankly,I expected better from Phil. I thought he would have had a much better handle on this franchise. From trading Chandler for nothing in return; Shump and JR for garbage; letting Carmelo play on bad knees after signing that huge contract; to not getting at least one of the top three picks, signifies to me that Phil does not know what he is doing as a front office man.
fishmike @ 5/20/2015 11:06 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:Dumb organization not thinking ahead; that is all I can say about that. They always have to make things hard on themselves. Frankly,I expected better from Phil. I thought he would have had a much better handle on this franchise. From trading Chandler for nothing in return; Shump and JR for garbage; letting Carmelo play on bad knees after signing that huge contract; to not getting at least one of the top three picks, signifies to me that Phil does not know what he is doing as a front office man.
So if you got lucky in the lottery that makes you a better front office man? Maybe we should have made Phil role the dice.. he can only take the Knick job if he rolls a 5 or 6, anything lower clearly shows he's unlucky and by your logic a bad front office man. That about right?
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