WaltLongmire wrote:Hard to understand the dislike some have for Kaminsky.
Good guy
High BB IQ
Intriguing skills set
Has improved his game every year in the NCAA
Played in an offensive system that requires discipline and teamwork
2 times in Final Four, once in finals
Matched up well and more than held his own against the two bigs expected to go 1 & 2
College Player of the Year
Yeah, why even consider taking a guy with this kind of pedigree, even if he shines in workouts?
if he only plays one end of the floor he won't end up a starter on a title-contending team. what if his defense is a liability?
fishmike wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:fishmike wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Hard to understand the dislike some have for Kaminsky.
Good guy
High BB IQ
Intriguing skills set
Has improved his game every year in the NCAA
Played in an offensive system that requires discipline and teamwork
2 times in Final Four, once in finals
Matched up well and more than held his own against the two bigs expected to go 1 & 2
College Player of the Year
Yeah, why even consider taking a guy with this kind of pedigree, even if he shines in workouts?
how many times did Frank have to face bigger, stronger and more athletic players? because in the NBA thats what he would be facing most every night
Ultimately depends on where you play him, and the same is true for Towns and OK4.People are talking about Towns and OK4 playing at the 4. Towns is no stiff, but I question his lateral quickness going up against a stretch 4. Same is true for OK4.
As centers, all 3 should be able to adapt on D, although I only expect Towns to be an above average shot blocker.
I was doubtful about Kaminsky's lateral movement, but saw enough on the positive side during the tournament to make me reassess him as a defender. I do think he needs another 10-15 lbs of muscle if he intends to be a center.
Once again, this is what you have the workouts for. You learn things about players when they are placed in different situations from those they faced in college.
I'll bring up a past Knick, too. Remember all the talk about Gallinari being another soft Euro defender? I would say his defensive value, at some point, actually surpassed his offensive value.
You just never know how players will eventually work out, and that's why you do your due diligence and put them through workouts which make them show your everything they have or don't have as players.
you can play him anywhere you want.. slow feet is slow feet. What Frank needs to do is bulk up and get strong. He's got zero zilch chance to play PF in the NBA. That position has changed. He could be a great center. Not the most athletic, but really good because of his skills. If you played him with a Milsap type rugged 4 who could also hit the 3 it opens up the floor incredibly.A line up of:
C Kaminsky
PF Milsap
SF Melo
SG Galloway
PG...ahhh... if only we had someone who break down a defense ;)
so you want him to bulk up to move up a position to defend the center position instead of stay quick and as fleet as possible.... incredible insight.
dk7th wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Hard to understand the dislike some have for Kaminsky.
Good guy
High BB IQ
Intriguing skills set
Has improved his game every year in the NCAA
Played in an offensive system that requires discipline and teamwork
2 times in Final Four, once in finals
Matched up well and more than held his own against the two bigs expected to go 1 & 2
College Player of the Year
Yeah, why even consider taking a guy with this kind of pedigree, even if he shines in workouts?
if he only plays one end of the floor he won't end up a starter on a title-contending team. what if his defense is a liability?
This would be something you would have to confirm before you choose him. Same is true for anyone if we take them.
I always go back to Gallinari. He turned out to be a fine defender, and there was some info from overseas scouts that he was tougher than people thought, and was not Bargs, but I seem to recall that when he came to the Knicks for a workout, it was one of those workouts where you do your thing without other players, and the workout is limited to certain things- in his case, mostly shooting.
If I'm about to pay big money for a draft pick, and want to know what I'm getting, that might mean having him play some 5/5 or 3/3 ball to see what he can do up close.
I hate that some of the big name college players don't want to do everything at the combine.
