Knicks · more shots fired at melo..smh (page 1)

Q: How did this Warriors season develop from your courtside seat?
A: It was pretty magical. They have a great chemistry in the locker room and they are selfless. Steph Curry is the leader and he’s the whole key. The way he lives as a person adds to the whole flavor of the team — very mature, very grounded.
Q: Was it a challenge for Steve Kerr to convince the team to move on from Mark Jackson?
A: Yes, but he would never phrase it that way. He went around and talked to every player when he got hired — as far as [going to] Australia with Andrew Bogut. Kerr has “it” — however you want to define that. He can be a great politician. He says the right thing at the right time to the right person. He knows how to handle the media, talk to every player as individuals and the team as a whole.
Q: Will the Cavaliers be a different type of challenge than what they’ve faced thus far?
A: It’s going to be very difficult to beat Cleveland. This could easily be a seven-game series. The Warriors need to have some great shooting nights because LeBron [James] is the most unique player I’ve ever seen. If I had to guard him, my top priority would be to keep him out of the lane and make him shoot jumpers.
Q: How do you do that?
A: LeBron James is the one player I think you have to double-team. But Kyrie Irving and J.R. Smith are outliers because they can win a game just with their own heroics, and one game can change the series. Tristan Thompson has his confidence and he’s really learned how to play since being the No. 4 pick. I’d still rather have those guys beat me than LeBron scoring 40. When the Warriors played in Cleveland, I’ve never seen him be so dominant. He really wanted to put on a show and it was like he was playing against high schoolers.
Q: an your old friend Phil Jackson turn the Knicks around?
A: Things just got so bad for them and I was saying, “Geez, they can’t be that bad, particularly with Carmelo Anthony.” But I have to tell you that I am not a huge Carmelo Anthony fan. I hate to say it, but he’s just not my type of player. But Phil didn’t get to the pinnacle he did by accident or by luck. Phil is very cerebral and very special. He has what it takes to manage people, so I think he’ll get it done.

I felt if Phil would have sat down and spoke with every player individually, the efforts would have been different, guys would have been much more receptive and felt like they would be part of the future even if they weren't, But he only cuddled Melo. Thats a Major problem..

I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him. I could totally understand Barnetts take on melo, he played for one of the most unselfish teams in all of sports, and ISO's are absolutely not his cup of tea.

I just hope phil can recognize the type of players melo needs around him, veterans, leaders, and a real coach.

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

Melo is dumb enough to not understand that he is out of place...
It is not good for him and not good for Knicks.
But it is good for Dolan and MSG.
Is 124 mil enough for Melo to eat his pride and work as highly paid clown following the footsteps of Marbs, Isiah, Eddy Curry alike?
I am not sure Melo can take it for very long.

arkrud wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

Melo is dumb enough to not understand that he is out of place...
It is not good for him and not good for Knicks.
But it is good for Dolan and MSG.
Is 124 mil enough for Melo to eat his pride and work as highly paid clown following the footsteps of Marbs, Isiah, Eddy Curry alike?
I am not sure Melo can take it for very long.

Bonn1997 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

Melo is dumb enough to not understand that he is out of place...
It is not good for him and not good for Knicks.
But it is good for Dolan and MSG.
Is 124 mil enough for Melo to eat his pride and work as highly paid clown following the footsteps of Marbs, Isiah, Eddy Curry alike?
I am not sure Melo can take it for very long.

That becomes 141 mil if he's traded this year because of his trade kicker! He'd have to really love NY to play here for less while we're terrible.

not sure why we think that he has value at that price.

holfresh wrote:Who is doing the interview and who is Barnett?

Barnett was an old style all purpose guard who played in the 60's and 70's, and was on the Knicks late in his career. I remember him having a strange jumper. He's a TV analyst, now.

Looked up his career. Kind of unlucky. Was drafted by Boston, and played on the team that lost to Chamberlain's Philly Team which won the NBA title. He was traded, and the next year the Celtics had a last hurrah and won the title after beating the Knicks.

Had some of his best years at Golden State teaming up with Jeff Mullins. Was traded, and the next year the Warriors behind Al Attles and Rick Barry upset Washington.

He is old school, but I'm not sure why he dislike's Anthony. Maybe he doesn't like the fact that Anthony is somewhat one dimensional as a player and not the type of guy who makes teammates better. He gets to see the Warriors on a regular basis, so he is seeing a pretty unselfish group which play well on both ends of the court.

Just speculating, though.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Who is doing the interview and who is Barnett?

Barnett was an old style all purpose guard who played in the 60's and 70's, and was on the Knicks late in his career. I remember him having a strange jumper. He's a TV analyst, now.

Looked up his career. Kind of unlucky. Was drafted by Boston, and played on the team that lost to Chamberlain's Philly Team which won the NBA title. He was traded, and the next year the Celtics had a last hurrah and won the title after beating the Knicks.

Had some of his best years at Golden State teaming up with Jeff Mullins. Was traded, and the next year the Warriors behind Al Attles and Rick Barry upset Washington.

He is old school, but I'm not sure why he dislike's Anthony. Maybe he doesn't like the fact that Anthony is somewhat one dimensional as a player and not the type of guy who makes teammates better. He gets to see the Warriors on a regular basis, so he is seeing a pretty unselfish group which play well on both ends of the court.

Just speculating, though.

Thanks...

knicks1248 wrote:

Q: How did this Warriors season develop from your courtside seat?
A: It was pretty magical. They have a great chemistry in the locker room and they are selfless. Steph Curry is the leader and he’s the whole key. The way he lives as a person adds to the whole flavor of the team — very mature, very grounded.
Q: Was it a challenge for Steve Kerr to convince the team to move on from Mark Jackson?
A: Yes, but he would never phrase it that way. He went around and talked to every player when he got hired — as far as [going to] Australia with Andrew Bogut. Kerr has “it” — however you want to define that. He can be a great politician. He says the right thing at the right time to the right person. He knows how to handle the media, talk to every player as individuals and the team as a whole.
Q: Will the Cavaliers be a different type of challenge than what they’ve faced thus far?
A: It’s going to be very difficult to beat Cleveland. This could easily be a seven-game series. The Warriors need to have some great shooting nights because LeBron [James] is the most unique player I’ve ever seen. If I had to guard him, my top priority would be to keep him out of the lane and make him shoot jumpers.
Q: How do you do that?
A: LeBron James is the one player I think you have to double-team. But Kyrie Irving and J.R. Smith are outliers because they can win a game just with their own heroics, and one game can change the series. Tristan Thompson has his confidence and he’s really learned how to play since being the No. 4 pick. I’d still rather have those guys beat me than LeBron scoring 40. When the Warriors played in Cleveland, I’ve never seen him be so dominant. He really wanted to put on a show and it was like he was playing against high schoolers.
Q: an your old friend Phil Jackson turn the Knicks around?
A: Things just got so bad for them and I was saying, “Geez, they can’t be that bad, particularly with Carmelo Anthony.” But I have to tell you that I am not a huge Carmelo Anthony fan. I hate to say it, but he’s just not my type of player. But Phil didn’t get to the pinnacle he did by accident or by luck. Phil is very cerebral and very special. He has what it takes to manage people, so I think he’ll get it done.

I felt if Phil would have sat down and spoke with every player individually, the efforts would have been different, guys would have been much more receptive and felt like they would be part of the future even if they weren't, But he only cuddled Melo. Thats a Major problem..

I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him. I could totally understand Barnetts take on melo, he played for one of the most unselfish teams in all of sports, and ISO's are absolutely not his cup of tea.

I just hope phil can recognize the type of players melo needs around him, veterans, leaders, and a real coach.

knicks1248 wrote:

Q: How did this Warriors season develop from your courtside seat?
A: It was pretty magical. They have a great chemistry in the locker room and they are selfless. Steph Curry is the leader and he’s the whole key. The way he lives as a person adds to the whole flavor of the team — very mature, very grounded.
Q: Was it a challenge for Steve Kerr to convince the team to move on from Mark Jackson?
A: Yes, but he would never phrase it that way. He went around and talked to every player when he got hired — as far as [going to] Australia with Andrew Bogut. Kerr has “it” — however you want to define that. He can be a great politician. He says the right thing at the right time to the right person. He knows how to handle the media, talk to every player as individuals and the team as a whole.
Q: Will the Cavaliers be a different type of challenge than what they’ve faced thus far?
A: It’s going to be very difficult to beat Cleveland. This could easily be a seven-game series. The Warriors need to have some great shooting nights because LeBron [James] is the most unique player I’ve ever seen. If I had to guard him, my top priority would be to keep him out of the lane and make him shoot jumpers.
Q: How do you do that?
A: LeBron James is the one player I think you have to double-team. But Kyrie Irving and J.R. Smith are outliers because they can win a game just with their own heroics, and one game can change the series. Tristan Thompson has his confidence and he’s really learned how to play since being the No. 4 pick. I’d still rather have those guys beat me than LeBron scoring 40. When the Warriors played in Cleveland, I’ve never seen him be so dominant. He really wanted to put on a show and it was like he was playing against high schoolers.
Q: an your old friend Phil Jackson turn the Knicks around?
A: Things just got so bad for them and I was saying, “Geez, they can’t be that bad, particularly with Carmelo Anthony.” But I have to tell you that I am not a huge Carmelo Anthony fan. I hate to say it, but he’s just not my type of player. But Phil didn’t get to the pinnacle he did by accident or by luck. Phil is very cerebral and very special. He has what it takes to manage people, so I think he’ll get it done.

I felt if Phil would have sat down and spoke with every player individually, the efforts would have been different, guys would have been much more receptive and felt like they would be part of the future even if they weren't, But he only cuddled Melo. Thats a Major problem..

I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him. I could totally understand Barnetts take on melo, he played for one of the most unselfish teams in all of sports, and ISO's are absolutely not his cup of tea.

I just hope phil can recognize the type of players melo needs around him, veterans, leaders, and a real coach.

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

Melo is dumb enough to not understand that he is out of place...
It is not good for him and not good for Knicks.
But it is good for Dolan and MSG.
Is 124 mil enough for Melo to eat his pride and work as highly paid clown following the footsteps of Marbs, Isiah, Eddy Curry alike?
I am not sure Melo can take it for very long.

That becomes 141 mil if he's traded this year because of his trade kicker! He'd have to really love NY to play here for less while we're terrible.

not sure why we think that he has value at that price.

Players waive trade kickers if they want to go

StarksEwing1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

id jump for joy not because i hate melo but we can use the money to build a complete deep team and hopefully get some picks back as well

We will struggle to sign free agents for a few years once Melo has gone (unless we overpay)- ain't no championship calibre player signing a reasonable deal to play on an empty roster with no shot of winning. The main benefit of getting rid of Melo is the picks you can get back for him, otherwise there's not much point.

When Knicks start wining, they will shift their view like Carmelo is my type of player, Knicks is fortunate to have Carmelo, Knicks is in the right direction to build around Carmelo.. etc. Let see.

TripleThreat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him....

I know a guy who has worked in TV production for a long long time. He was working on a long running very popular cable show, and one of the longest tenured actors on the show approached the producers and wanted to direct. Apparently the actor had been talking to other veteran actors he knew, and they all told him, to make the most of his opportunities now and get into producing, writing, directing and behind the camera work now, so he could have a future when his acting opportunities would naturally dry up.

So he apparently went into a meeting alone with one of the head showrunners and the showrunner pulled out a notebook. Inside the notebook was a list of every single time the actor was late for work, across multiple seasons, and he had an accountant calculate what the value in dollars that lost time was worth. The list was very very long and the notebook was very full. The showrunner pointed out that the actor got away with it because he was an indispensable part of the show's plot/mythology and popular with the fanbase, and no matter how many people tried to talk to him about it, he kept being tardy. Then the showrunner pointed out some of the people they had to let go, not actors, but crew, because of budget reasons and made it clear that if the actor had just showed up on time, the money saved would have been enough to save a couple of actual jobs.

The showrunner apparently said, if you want to direct, you want more responsibility, you want more opportunity, then you need to act in a way where the show comes first, the people here come first. Then he asked the actor, how would he feel if he lost a job he needed because someone else where he worked just didn't feel like coming in on time?

Apparently, two years later, the actor finally got a chance to direct an episode, he never came late again and he apparently had to have a Come To Jesus moment with his agent and agency and totally changed his attitude when it came to his craft and his responsibility not just to himself, but everyone who relied on the show for a job.

If Melo doesn't want to get criticized so much, then show up in shape, act like a true leader, and actually play defense. The BARE MINIMUM that should be expected of ANY NBA VETERAN. To do less is disrespectful to the franchise, to it's loyal fans and to the game itself. Just like the actor, just because you have the leverage to be a douchebag doesn't mean it's good for the entire team, the entire goal of the unit, for the greater good of all involved.

What boggles my mind is there are people here who say, "Hey Melo, Jesus H Christ dude, play some mother fucking defense will you?" and then some of you start railing in and calling people Melo Haters when Melo's happy horseshit no effort no integrity BS is an insult to every Knick fan, to the uniform he wears, and to the entire franchise. He's basically spitting in your face and some of you are acting like the thing to do is treat it like it's ok and then justify it.

I feel sorry for some of you here that defend Melo at all costs and think that happy horseshit is good enough for the Knicks fandom. Knicks fans, the diehard fans, the loyal fans, they deserve better. They deserve someone who will at least do the bare minimum of what it means to be a god damn professional.

Excellent analogy man. Very well written post

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo is being driven out of New York. He is going to wave his no trade claus and dodge while he can

Melo is dumb enough to not understand that he is out of place...
It is not good for him and not good for Knicks.
But it is good for Dolan and MSG.
Is 124 mil enough for Melo to eat his pride and work as highly paid clown following the footsteps of Marbs, Isiah, Eddy Curry alike?
I am not sure Melo can take it for very long.

That becomes 141 mil if he's traded this year because of his trade kicker! He'd have to really love NY to play here for less while we're terrible.

not sure why we think that he has value at that price.

TripleThreat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him....

I know a guy who has worked in TV production for a long long time. He was working on a long running very popular cable show, and one of the longest tenured actors on the show approached the producers and wanted to direct. Apparently the actor had been talking to other veteran actors he knew, and they all told him, to make the most of his opportunities now and get into producing, writing, directing and behind the camera work now, so he could have a future when his acting opportunities would naturally dry up.

So he apparently went into a meeting alone with one of the head showrunners and the showrunner pulled out a notebook. Inside the notebook was a list of every single time the actor was late for work, across multiple seasons, and he had an accountant calculate what the value in dollars that lost time was worth. The list was very very long and the notebook was very full. The showrunner pointed out that the actor got away with it because he was an indispensable part of the show's plot/mythology and popular with the fanbase, and no matter how many people tried to talk to him about it, he kept being tardy. Then the showrunner pointed out some of the people they had to let go, not actors, but crew, because of budget reasons and made it clear that if the actor had just showed up on time, the money saved would have been enough to save a couple of actual jobs.

The showrunner apparently said, if you want to direct, you want more responsibility, you want more opportunity, then you need to act in a way where the show comes first, the people here come first. Then he asked the actor, how would he feel if he lost a job he needed because someone else where he worked just didn't feel like coming in on time?

Apparently, two years later, the actor finally got a chance to direct an episode, he never came late again and he apparently had to have a Come To Jesus moment with his agent and agency and totally changed his attitude when it came to his craft and his responsibility not just to himself, but everyone who relied on the show for a job.

If Melo doesn't want to get criticized so much, then show up in shape, act like a true leader, and actually play defense. The BARE MINIMUM that should be expected of ANY NBA VETERAN. To do less is disrespectful to the franchise, to it's loyal fans and to the game itself. Just like the actor, just because you have the leverage to be a douchebag doesn't mean it's good for the entire team, the entire goal of the unit, for the greater good of all involved.

What boggles my mind is there are people here who say, "Hey Melo, Jesus H Christ dude, play some mother fucking defense will you?" and then some of you start railing in and calling people Melo Haters when Melo's happy horseshit no effort no integrity BS is an insult to every Knick fan, to the uniform he wears, and to the entire franchise. He's basically spitting in your face and some of you are acting like the thing to do is treat it like it's ok and then justify it.

I feel sorry for some of you here that defend Melo at all costs and think that happy horseshit is good enough for the Knicks fandom. Knicks fans, the diehard fans, the loyal fans, they deserve better. They deserve someone who will at least do the bare minimum of what it means to be a god damn professional.

Who do you think will come to New York? You have to have thick skin to play in New York. Ask JR Smith And Shump. You spit all over both of them and now look what they have. No star on the rise will come to New York as a FA. Melo had the balls to come to NY. Look we even blew the tanking plan. We should have lost those last 3 games. Now we are ass holes again. Melo and Phil Jackson will be long gone before we become a championship level team. For basketball in New York you have too many temptations. Stop blaming Melo. He was never surrounded by the right players. JR Smith and Shump could not handle New York. Too much temptation. too much pressure. If JR Smith and Shump was not in Cleveland LeBron would not have this chance to win a championship. If you want to blame someone blame yourself and all the other hater will knock down any star who comes to New York. That is our DNA

TripleThreat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him....

I know a guy who has worked in TV production for a long long time. He was working on a long running very popular cable show, and one of the longest tenured actors on the show approached the producers and wanted to direct. Apparently the actor had been talking to other veteran actors he knew, and they all told him, to make the most of his opportunities now and get into producing, writing, directing and behind the camera work now, so he could have a future when his acting opportunities would naturally dry up.

So he apparently went into a meeting alone with one of the head showrunners and the showrunner pulled out a notebook. Inside the notebook was a list of every single time the actor was late for work, across multiple seasons, and he had an accountant calculate what the value in dollars that lost time was worth. The list was very very long and the notebook was very full. The showrunner pointed out that the actor got away with it because he was an indispensable part of the show's plot/mythology and popular with the fanbase, and no matter how many people tried to talk to him about it, he kept being tardy. Then the showrunner pointed out some of the people they had to let go, not actors, but crew, because of budget reasons and made it clear that if the actor had just showed up on time, the money saved would have been enough to save a couple of actual jobs.

The showrunner apparently said, if you want to direct, you want more responsibility, you want more opportunity, then you need to act in a way where the show comes first, the people here come first. Then he asked the actor, how would he feel if he lost a job he needed because someone else where he worked just didn't feel like coming in on time?

Apparently, two years later, the actor finally got a chance to direct an episode, he never came late again and he apparently had to have a Come To Jesus moment with his agent and agency and totally changed his attitude when it came to his craft and his responsibility not just to himself, but everyone who relied on the show for a job.

If Melo doesn't want to get criticized so much, then show up in shape, act like a true leader, and actually play defense. The BARE MINIMUM that should be expected of ANY NBA VETERAN. To do less is disrespectful to the franchise, to it's loyal fans and to the game itself. Just like the actor, just because you have the leverage to be a douchebag doesn't mean it's good for the entire team, the entire goal of the unit, for the greater good of all involved.

What boggles my mind is there are people here who say, "Hey Melo, Jesus H Christ dude, play some mother fucking defense will you?" and then some of you start railing in and calling people Melo Haters when Melo's happy horseshit no effort no integrity BS is an insult to every Knick fan, to the uniform he wears, and to the entire franchise. He's basically spitting in your face and some of you are acting like the thing to do is treat it like it's ok and then justify it.

I feel sorry for some of you here that defend Melo at all costs and think that happy horseshit is good enough for the Knicks fandom. Knicks fans, the diehard fans, the loyal fans, they deserve better. They deserve someone who will at least do the bare minimum of what it means to be a god damn professional.

Grow up man. Melo did not loose this season for us. Start with Phil Jackson and the coach he picked, and the trades he made, and the tanking that blew up in our face. It's easy to blame Melo. That is why no star player is coming to New York. Why? Because is people like you who feels that if the Knicks loose its their fault.

Papabear wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him....

I know a guy who has worked in TV production for a long long time. He was working on a long running very popular cable show, and one of the longest tenured actors on the show approached the producers and wanted to direct. Apparently the actor had been talking to other veteran actors he knew, and they all told him, to make the most of his opportunities now and get into producing, writing, directing and behind the camera work now, so he could have a future when his acting opportunities would naturally dry up.

So he apparently went into a meeting alone with one of the head showrunners and the showrunner pulled out a notebook. Inside the notebook was a list of every single time the actor was late for work, across multiple seasons, and he had an accountant calculate what the value in dollars that lost time was worth. The list was very very long and the notebook was very full. The showrunner pointed out that the actor got away with it because he was an indispensable part of the show's plot/mythology and popular with the fanbase, and no matter how many people tried to talk to him about it, he kept being tardy. Then the showrunner pointed out some of the people they had to let go, not actors, but crew, because of budget reasons and made it clear that if the actor had just showed up on time, the money saved would have been enough to save a couple of actual jobs.

The showrunner apparently said, if you want to direct, you want more responsibility, you want more opportunity, then you need to act in a way where the show comes first, the people here come first. Then he asked the actor, how would he feel if he lost a job he needed because someone else where he worked just didn't feel like coming in on time?

Apparently, two years later, the actor finally got a chance to direct an episode, he never came late again and he apparently had to have a Come To Jesus moment with his agent and agency and totally changed his attitude when it came to his craft and his responsibility not just to himself, but everyone who relied on the show for a job.

If Melo doesn't want to get criticized so much, then show up in shape, act like a true leader, and actually play defense. The BARE MINIMUM that should be expected of ANY NBA VETERAN. To do less is disrespectful to the franchise, to it's loyal fans and to the game itself. Just like the actor, just because you have the leverage to be a douchebag doesn't mean it's good for the entire team, the entire goal of the unit, for the greater good of all involved.

What boggles my mind is there are people here who say, "Hey Melo, Jesus H Christ dude, play some mother fucking defense will you?" and then some of you start railing in and calling people Melo Haters when Melo's happy horseshit no effort no integrity BS is an insult to every Knick fan, to the uniform he wears, and to the entire franchise. He's basically spitting in your face and some of you are acting like the thing to do is treat it like it's ok and then justify it.

I feel sorry for some of you here that defend Melo at all costs and think that happy horseshit is good enough for the Knicks fandom. Knicks fans, the diehard fans, the loyal fans, they deserve better. They deserve someone who will at least do the bare minimum of what it means to be a god damn professional.

Papabear Says

Grow up man. Melo did not loose this season for us. Start with Phil Jackson and the coach he picked, and the trades he made, and the tanking that blew up in our face. It's easy to blame Melo. That is why no star player is coming to New York. Why? Because is people like you who feels that if the Knicks loose its their fault.

he has doomed the franchise to a treadmill/limbo/purgatory for as long as he remains a knick. he is one of the main reasons the knicks are a mess. and "surrounding him with the right players" is nonsense. the real and honest account is that MELO IS HARD TO PLAY WITH.

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure how most people look at Melo, but my guess is that his contracts are the reason most people critic him....

I know a guy who has worked in TV production for a long long time. He was working on a long running very popular cable show, and one of the longest tenured actors on the show approached the producers and wanted to direct. Apparently the actor had been talking to other veteran actors he knew, and they all told him, to make the most of his opportunities now and get into producing, writing, directing and behind the camera work now, so he could have a future when his acting opportunities would naturally dry up.

So he apparently went into a meeting alone with one of the head showrunners and the showrunner pulled out a notebook. Inside the notebook was a list of every single time the actor was late for work, across multiple seasons, and he had an accountant calculate what the value in dollars that lost time was worth. The list was very very long and the notebook was very full. The showrunner pointed out that the actor got away with it because he was an indispensable part of the show's plot/mythology and popular with the fanbase, and no matter how many people tried to talk to him about it, he kept being tardy. Then the showrunner pointed out some of the people they had to let go, not actors, but crew, because of budget reasons and made it clear that if the actor had just showed up on time, the money saved would have been enough to save a couple of actual jobs.

The showrunner apparently said, if you want to direct, you want more responsibility, you want more opportunity, then you need to act in a way where the show comes first, the people here come first. Then he asked the actor, how would he feel if he lost a job he needed because someone else where he worked just didn't feel like coming in on time?

Apparently, two years later, the actor finally got a chance to direct an episode, he never came late again and he apparently had to have a Come To Jesus moment with his agent and agency and totally changed his attitude when it came to his craft and his responsibility not just to himself, but everyone who relied on the show for a job.

If Melo doesn't want to get criticized so much, then show up in shape, act like a true leader, and actually play defense. The BARE MINIMUM that should be expected of ANY NBA VETERAN. To do less is disrespectful to the franchise, to it's loyal fans and to the game itself. Just like the actor, just because you have the leverage to be a douchebag doesn't mean it's good for the entire team, the entire goal of the unit, for the greater good of all involved.

What boggles my mind is there are people here who say, "Hey Melo, Jesus H Christ dude, play some mother fucking defense will you?" and then some of you start railing in and calling people Melo Haters when Melo's happy horseshit no effort no integrity BS is an insult to every Knick fan, to the uniform he wears, and to the entire franchise. He's basically spitting in your face and some of you are acting like the thing to do is treat it like it's ok and then justify it.

I feel sorry for some of you here that defend Melo at all costs and think that happy horseshit is good enough for the Knicks fandom. Knicks fans, the diehard fans, the loyal fans, they deserve better. They deserve someone who will at least do the bare minimum of what it means to be a god damn professional.

Papabear Says

Grow up man. Melo did not loose this season for us. Start with Phil Jackson and the coach he picked, and the trades he made, and the tanking that blew up in our face. It's easy to blame Melo. That is why no star player is coming to New York. Why? Because is people like you who feels that if the Knicks loose its their fault.

he has doomed the franchise to a treadmill/limbo/purgatory for as long as he remains a knick. he is one of the main reasons the knicks are a mess. and "surrounding him with the right players" is nonsense. the real and honest account is that MELO IS HARD TO PLAY WITH.

TripleThreat wrote:

Papabear wrote:
Who do you think will come to New York? You have to have thick skin to play in New York. Ask JR Smith And Shump. You spit all over both of them and now look what they have. No star on the rise will come to New York as a FA. Melo had the balls to come to NY. Look we even blew the tanking plan. We should have lost those last 3 games. Now we are ass holes again. Melo and Phil Jackson will be long gone before we become a championship level team. For basketball in New York you have too many temptations. Stop blaming Melo. He was never surrounded by the right players. JR Smith and Shump could not handle New York. Too much temptation. too much pressure. If JR Smith and Shump was not in Cleveland LeBron would not have this chance to win a championship. If you want to blame someone blame yourself and all the other hater will knock down any star who comes to New York. That is our DNA

"It's my fault, I PROVOKED HIM!"

"I should have left him alone, he was so STRESSED OUT, that's not really him inside... I know him inside..."

"He had a tough childhood, his Dad hit him, so it's all he knows..."

"If I leave him, where will I go? How will I support myself?"

"As long as he focuses it on me, and not the kids, that's ok."

"There are people who have it worse than me, I should focus on that."

"No one else will want me or love me like he does"

PapaBear, congratulations, you've just made a legion of Knicks fans sound like a bunch of battered wives.

The same excuses you roll out for Melo are the same kind of excuses that WOMEN WHO GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE GIVE WHEN THEY DON'T LEAVE THE DOUCHEBAG WHO USES THEIR FACE FOR A SPEEDBAG.

Think about it, you just said that Melo is better than whatever the alternative would be, he's never gotten the support he needed and NY is just too tough to play in and it comes down to "haters"

Your defense of Melo is pathetic.

If the Knicks lost but Melo gave everything he had, a lot of his critics would actually sympathize with him.

I'm a Ranger diehard, and I know plenty of other Ranger faithful and yet I can find no one, not one of us, who begrudged what Ray Bourque went through with the Bruins, year after year, losing and always being one of the best players in the league, but always playing the right way and always being a leader and example. And no one begrudged him when he got a ring later in his career with a different team.

You sound like a battered wife. You've reduced Knick fans to a bunch of battered wives just to justify Melo's happy horseshit.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Especially the battered wife thing. Be careful when you speak about battered women and not leaving when she gets beat. There are many reasons why they don't leave. I'm not a professional in that field and neither are you and if you were you would not compare battered women to Knicks fans. Battered women is a serious thing that effects many women in the world. Basketball is just a fun sport where some people get paid well for playing the game and we cheer them on.