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blkexec wrote:PG: Mudiay or Russell
SG: Carroll
SF: Green
PF: Melo
C: WCS via draft day trade

Instead of over paying Monroe.....over pay Carroll and Green from GS.

Lead guard....two way players at ever position. Defensive anchor. Melo leads the league in shot attempts. Everybody is happy, except for BRIGGS!

If WCS is not available then any defensive big at the end of 1st round.

This looks really sweet, but how did we get WCS unless you have us parting with a future 1st rounder?

dacash wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dacash wrote:PG:SHVED
SG:MONTA ELLIS
SF:MELO
PF:GREG MUNROE
c:ALDRICH

Who would you have the Knicks get in the draft?

WELL I HONESTLY DONT KNOW, BUT HOW ABOUT WE GIVE THE CELTICS THE 4 PICK FOR THE 16 AND 28 PICKS AND MAYBE A 2ND ROUND PICK NEXT YEAR. THEN WET I DUNNO ROBERT UPSHAW AND JERIAN GRANT OR JORDAN MICKEY AND TERRY ROZIER LIKE THAT SHORE UP OUR BENCH.

Moonangie wrote:

blkexec wrote:PG: Mudiay or Russell
SG: Carroll
SF: Green
PF: Melo
C: WCS via draft day trade

Instead of over paying Monroe.....over pay Carroll and Green from GS.

Lead guard....two way players at ever position. Defensive anchor. Melo leads the league in shot attempts. Everybody is happy, except for BRIGGS!

If WCS is not available then any defensive big at the end of 1st round.

This looks really sweet, but how did we get WCS unless you have us parting with a future 1st rounder?

Thj....Cash....or future 1st if WCS is there.

Its harder to get a Mudiay type and two way players like Carroll and Green. Phil likes to have a lot of centers to rotate in so im not worried about that right now. A defensive center with limited offense are easy to find. Grab someone from the d league....2nd round...etc.....have them all rotate like the 90s Bulls.

dacash wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dacash wrote:PG:SHVED
SG:MONTA ELLIS
SF:MELO
PF:GREG MUNROE
c:ALDRICH

Who would you have the Knicks get in the draft?

WELL I HONESTLY DONT KNOW, BUT HOW ABOUT WE GIVE THE CELTICS THE 4 PICK FOR THE 16 AND 28 PICKS AND MAYBE A 2ND ROUND PICK NEXT YEAR. THEN WET I DUNNO ROBERT UPSHAW AND JERIAN GRANT OR JORDAN MICKEY AND TERRY ROZIER LIKE THAT SHORE UP OUR BENCH.

That's incredibly low value for that pick. They would need to include Brooklyn's 2016 pick(unprotected) and another 1st maybe. Just think they would be moving up into the top of the lottery 12 spots. That is a very big jump to take. They would have to take Calderon too.

Galloway
Winslow
Carroll
Melo
Monroe

We will win 44 games

Knicks1969 wrote:RUSSELL
SHVED
CARMELO
MONROE
A ROOKIE AT CENTER

We will win 44 games

nixluva wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:RUSSELL
SHVED
CARMELO
MONROE
A ROOKIE AT CENTER

We will win 44 games

Can you imagine how turned up NY would be if Russell fell to #4? People would lose their minds if the Knicks got that lucky. I'm trying not to go there mentally. After the stab in the heart that the Draft Lottery was, it's hard to get hopes up again.

Actually,he will not fall to the Knicks. He will be selected by the Lakers and trade to the Knicks on a three teams deal that will envolve Philly for Onafor or Embiid. The lakers are enamored with Embiid size and wanted to select him last year.

nixluva wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:RUSSELL
SHVED
CARMELO
MONROE
A ROOKIE AT CENTER

We will win 44 games

Can you imagine how turned up NY would be if Russell fell to #4? People would lose their minds if the Knicks got that lucky. I'm trying not to go there mentally. After the stab in the heart that the Draft Lottery was, it's hard to get hopes up again.

Yup- it's important to manage our expectations

Sixth Man - Carmelo Anthony
Third Guard - Langston Galloway
Fourth Guard/Shooting Specialist - Jose Calderon
Bench Enforcer - Chuck Hayes
Rotational Big - Luis Scola
Developmental - Tim Hardaway Jr/Orlando Sanchez/Thansis Antekoumpo

My "ideal" offseason would be to sign Robin Lopez, Jae Crowder, Aaron Brooks, Larry Sanders, Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola in free agency.
Lopez isn't dominant in any one area but helps you in every area. Does a lot of positive things that doesn't end up in a stat sheet. Even with a slight overpay, will be trade worthy if need be as long he's healthy. Jae Crowder is young and a plus defender with hope his offense can develop more. Aaron Brooks is older but the Knicks need stability at point guard. He's not going to run out plus defense but the Knicks as constructed can hide him a little bit. The guy can flat out ball and he's not going to cost a ton. Sanders is being paid by the Bucks not to play for them. He's young, a true defensive difference maker and can run with anyone if his head is right. He's the right kind of player to take a flier on at the right cost and upside. Best part is he can come subsidized and if he doesn't work out, can be cut. Hayes and Scola offer veteran leadership and locker room stability.

Melo shifts to a 6th man role, where he can provide offensive punch and be hidden by a defense suited to limit his defensive lapses. Galloway provides youth and energy and defense off the bench, giving him a less intensive role to develop and work on his long range shooting. Calderon moves to a reserve role, again, set up where a defense can do their best to hide him. Hardaway Jr/Sanchez and Greek Freak 2.0 all get end of the roster roles to try to develop with less pressure.

Devin Booker IMHO is the best draft prospect outside of the top three ( Okafor, Towns and Russell). He won't be a value selection at No#4, but the hope is the Knicks can trade down, pick up Booker, who can shoot long range at an elite level , play the wing and play tough plus defense, and hopefully some future draft assets as well. Booker would be my personal choice for the "right pick" this year, though again, the hope is the Knicks can move down from the 4 slot in a trade to get Booker.

IMHO, this is the best compromise of a roster build that offers defense, shifts Melo into a functional role to his strengths, and factors in what the Knicks can probably get in the trade market/free agency and offer at least some type of competitive roster.

Calderon/Galloway

Melo/Aminu

Monroe/Speights

Ajinca/Bargnani

SECONDARY
G: Jimmer Fredette
G: Thabo Seflosha
G/F: Kyle Korver
F: Mike Scott
C: Pero Antic

A man can dream, right?

Knicks1969 wrote:RUSSELL
SHVED
CARMELO
MONROE
A ROOKIE AT CENTER

We will win 44 games

Even if this happens, we have the worst defensive team in the NBA

NardDogNation wrote:STARTERS
PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Demarre Carroll
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Paul Millsap
C: Al Horford

SECONDARY
G: Jimmer Fredette
G: Thabo Seflosha
G/F: Kyle Korver
F: Mike Scott
C: Pero Antic

A man can dream, right?

That's what I think will happen. Calderon and mudiay are both pgs but calderon will still start to provide leadership and 3pt shooting. Galloway will play starters minutes though.

TripleThreat wrote:Pivot - Robin Lopez
Primary Wing - Devin Booker
Secondary Wing - Jae Crowder
Power Forward - Larry Sanders
Point Guard - Aaron Brooks

Sixth Man - Carmelo Anthony
Third Guard - Langston Galloway
Fourth Guard/Shooting Specialist - Jose Calderon
Bench Enforcer - Chuck Hayes
Rotational Big - Luis Scola
Developmental - Tim Hardaway Jr/Orlando Sanchez/Thansis Antekoumpo

My "ideal" offseason would be to sign Robin Lopez, Jae Crowder, Aaron Brooks, Larry Sanders, Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola in free agency.
Lopez isn't dominant in any one area but helps you in every area. Does a lot of positive things that doesn't end up in a stat sheet. Even with a slight overpay, will be trade worthy if need be as long he's healthy. Jae Crowder is young and a plus defender with hope his offense can develop more. Aaron Brooks is older but the Knicks need stability at point guard. He's not going to run out plus defense but the Knicks as constructed can hide him a little bit. The guy can flat out ball and he's not going to cost a ton. Sanders is being paid by the Bucks not to play for them. He's young, a true defensive difference maker and can run with anyone if his head is right. He's the right kind of player to take a flier on at the right cost and upside. Best part is he can come subsidized and if he doesn't work out, can be cut. Hayes and Scola offer veteran leadership and locker room stability.

Melo shifts to a 6th man role, where he can provide offensive punch and be hidden by a defense suited to limit his defensive lapses. Galloway provides youth and energy and defense off the bench, giving him a less intensive role to develop and work on his long range shooting. Calderon moves to a reserve role, again, set up where a defense can do their best to hide him. Hardaway Jr/Sanchez and Greek Freak 2.0 all get end of the roster roles to try to develop with less pressure.

Devin Booker IMHO is the best draft prospect outside of the top three ( Okafor, Towns and Russell). He won't be a value selection at No#4, but the hope is the Knicks can trade down, pick up Booker, who can shoot long range at an elite level , play the wing and play tough plus defense, and hopefully some future draft assets as well. Booker would be my personal choice for the "right pick" this year, though again, the hope is the Knicks can move down from the 4 slot in a trade to get Booker.

IMHO, this is the best compromise of a roster build that offers defense, shifts Melo into a functional role to his strengths, and factors in what the Knicks can probably get in the trade market/free agency and offer at least some type of competitive roster.

1. That starting lineup is pretty damn ugly. What could possibly be the upside of such a lineup?
2. No way it makes sense that Melo would be pushed to 6th man. The lone All Star on the team is pushed to the bench?
3. Trading down and coming out of the draft with Devin Booker is a major fail. How the F is Booker the right pick?
4. Robin Lopez is OK if mediocre is what you want, Jae Crowder is OK, tough kid, but Aaron Brooks, Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola?
5. LARRY SANDERS??? WTF? Dude has major questions about his passion for the game. NY is the worst situation to put him in.

You get on other people for their suggestions all the time and to be honest this is pretty much the worst roster i've read anyone suggest. Perhaps because of your volatile personality others may be scared to say anything to you about this but this roster is a ClusterPhuck. You are creating more problems than you are solving.