Knicks · For people saying these contracts are crazy, here's a visual of the salary cap over the next few years (page 1)

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SwishAndDish13 wrote:Even though I agree with you it doesn't mean they aren't crazy. You still need to eat the later years. People are panicking but no Knicks targets have signed yet.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Even though I agree with you it doesn't mean they aren't crazy. You still need to eat the later years. People are panicking but no Knicks targets have signed yet.

It's a lot easier to eat a $15M season when the cap is $109M. That's like 13% of the cap. 13% of a 50M cap is $6.5M, cap was $50M two or three years ago. People are looking at these deals the wrong way.

The cap is not going below $100M for the duration of this tv contract.

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm pretty sure we've gone over the cap rise many times on here and everyone already knows exactly how it works but Carroll at 15 per is still absolutely ridiculous.

It's the equivalent of him getting $6.5M per year in 2012 cap room.

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm pretty sure we've gone over the cap rise many times on here and everyone already knows exactly how it works but Carroll at 15 per is still absolutely ridiculous.

You realize Anthony Davis just signed an extension with a $29M average salary right?

The New Orleans Pelicans struck a deal with Anthony Davis as soon as the NBA's free-agency period began at midnight on Wednesday.

With Davis eligible to become a free agent next summer, New Orleans locked him up with a five-year, $145 million extension that starts in the 2016-2017 season.

The $145 million is the largest contract number in NBA history, and Davis' $29 million yearly average would be the highest in the NBA right now.

As Grantland's Zach Lowe mentions, Davis' max starts in 2016-2017 and is based on the projected 2016-2017 salary cap of $89 million. Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski notes that Davis qualifies for a max contract exception in which he can get 30% of the salary cap (usually reserved for players with seven to nine years of service) instead of the usual 25% if he starts in next year's All-Star Game or makes an All-NBA team, which is highly likely. Thus, despite being in only his fifth year when the extension starts, Davis will be paid more than most of his peers.

Davis' reign at the top of the NBA could be temporary, however, because the NBA's rising salary cap will create bigger, wilder contracts than ever seen in the league.

In one year, Davis could be topped by other top free agents with more NBA experience. Players who have been in the NBA for 10 or more years can earn 35% of the cap, so within one year, the top free agents could see deals similar to or bigger than Davis'.

LeBron James will keep signing one-year deals until the Cavs have his Bird Rights and can offer him a max contract with 7.5% raises. As Business Insider's Tony Manfred noted, by 2017 LeBron could sign a five-year, $204 million deal.

LaMarcus Aldridge has similar motivation to sign a short deal this summer. Next year will be his 10th season, so by 2016, if Aldridge wants to hit free agency again, he could sign a four-year, $145 million contract with another team.

The summer of 2017 could be even crazier, when the salary cap is expected to be $108 million. A player with 10 years of service eligible for 35% of the cap would have a starting salary of $38 million!

Such is life in the NBA's the new cap environment, where max contracts nearing or topping $150 million could become a regular sighting.

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crzymdups wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm pretty sure we've gone over the cap rise many times on here and everyone already knows exactly how it works but Carroll at 15 per is still absolutely ridiculous.

It's the equivalent of him getting $6.5M per year in 2012 cap room.

Wouldn't Knicks fans freak out (rightfully so) over Carroll's leg injury? 4 years is a lot if he can't bounce back (many haven't).

crzymdups wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Even though I agree with you it doesn't mean they aren't crazy. You still need to eat the later years. People are panicking but no Knicks targets have signed yet.

It's a lot easier to eat a $15M season when the cap is $109M. That's like 13% of the cap. 13% of a 50M cap is $6.5M, cap was $50M two or three years ago. People are looking at these deals the wrong way.

The cap is not going below $100M for the duration of this tv contract.

Agreed, but we haven't lost anybody yet. I have been in full support of max or near max for DJ. I am more concerned about duration with somebody like Harris (may not work out) or Matthews (injury) then the dollars.

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm pretty sure we've gone over the cap rise many times on here and everyone already knows exactly how it works but Carroll at 15 per is still absolutely ridiculous.

I like him, and understand that he played in a system, but that system also gave him his two best years by far...and now he is out of that system.

gunsnewing wrote:And we are busy lowballing Monroe

There is no evidence to support that we low-balled him. The media does love to s*** all over this team for no reason though which is a reason not to come.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:And we are busy lowballing Monroe

There is no evidence to support that we low-balled him. The media does love to s*** all over this team for no reason though which is a reason not to come.

The guy who reported they lowballed him works for MSG. Alan Hahn.

fishmike wrote:Well... at least Bonn, guns, rainman and friends got to cry for one year about Melo's contract before it becomes a run of the mill NBA contract. Suddenly if we whiff in FA, and Melo plays well to start the season having him locked into 4 years starting at $23mm is a nice asset after all.

Phil mentioned that the contract wouldn't look so bad when the cap went up.

crzymdups wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:And we are busy lowballing Monroe

There is no evidence to support that we low-balled him. The media does love to s*** all over this team for no reason though which is a reason not to come.

The guy who reported they lowballed him works for MSG. Alan Hahn.

The Knicks send out smokescreens through Alan Hahn. They had us taking Stein or Mudiay. Not in this case though. I don't see how this can be a smokescreen but just him reporting. Unless he is lying to appease the fanbase and glorify Phil since the Knicks were killed for Melo not taking less

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:And we are busy lowballing Monroe

There is no evidence to support that we low-balled him. The media does love to s*** all over this team for no reason though which is a reason not to come.

The guy who reported they lowballed him works for MSG. Alan Hahn.

The Knicks send out smokescreens through Alan Hahn. They had us taking Stein or Mudiay. Not in this case though. I don't see how this can be a smokescreen but just him reporting. Unless he is lying to appease the fanbase and glorify Phil since the Knicks were killed for Melo not taking less

Whatever is going on we arent going to know until its done.