I beg to differ Martin. Fiorina can't be trusted with her ulterior motives but the democratic candidates don't stand a hands against any of the remaining republican candidates imho
gunsnewing wrote:I beg to differ Martin. Fiorina can't be trusted but the democratic candidates don't stand a hands against any of the remaining republican candidates imho
Beg to differ about what? Fiorina, Carson, Trump are reality show politicians.
Guns, you haven't once offered any type of real information when you post about any candidate or any type of political discussion. I love you man but offer something tangible. Just because someone speaks with bluster - Trump, Fiorina - doesn't mean they offer anything. Dig into the details of what they say and what they propose and how they plan to get to the place they want America to go.
Fiorina is a flat out liar. Everyone knows this. Trump is less of a liar and has zero heft with plans for a better America; repeating that you will make America great again is fluff, anyone can do that with gusto, Trump just has the advantage of $ in his bank account, nothing more nothing less.
I am not really high on Hilary but she has produced a shit-ton of detailed plans of what she would do to make America better, she just don't put on a shit-show like Trump so her policies are not on TV as much. Same with Bernie.
The Republican lineup is a clown show. Trump for long months at a time DECLARED that Obama was not born in the USA and also stated that he had evidence of it. Same with stating that shit about Obama being a Muslim.
Outsourcing is a bigger problem than illegal immigration IMO. Outsourcing in the long run makes people more likely to compete with newly arrived immigrants for low paying jobs, because the good ones are being shipped overseas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/toy...
No question about that. I made that very clear earlier in the thread. Coincidently putting a stop to outsourcing is one of Trump's main priorities but people will continue to focus on racism and the things he said about women when he was an entertainer. It's not rocket science and Truml gets it. Brings jobs back to America. Decrease the national debt and everyone is happy, busy working,'and less time and need for violent crime
gunsnewing wrote:No question about that. I made that very clear earlier in the thread. Coincidently putting a stop to outsourcing is one of Trump's main priorities but people will continue to focus on racism and the things he said about women when he was an entertainer. It's not rocket science and Truml gets it. Brings jobs back to America. Decrease the national debt and everyone is happy, busy working,'and less time and need for violent crime
Trumps first "Detailed" plan increates the national debt. So already he has failed?
martin wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I beg to differ Martin. Fiorina can't be trusted but the democratic candidates don't stand a hands against any of the remaining republican candidates imho
Beg to differ about what? Fiorina, Carson, Trump are reality show politicians.
Guns, you haven't once offered any type of real information when you post about any candidate or any type of political discussion. I love you man but offer something tangible. Just because someone speaks with bluster - Trump, Fiorina - doesn't mean they offer anything. Dig into the details of what they say and what they propose and how they plan to get to the place they want America to go.
Fiorina is a flat out liar. Everyone knows this. Trump is less of a liar and has zero heft with plans for a better America; repeating that you will make America great again is fluff, anyone can do that with gusto, Trump just has the advantage of $ in his bank account, nothing more nothing less.
I am not really high on Hilary but she has produced a shit-ton of detailed plans of what she would do to make America better, she just don't put on a shit-show like Trump so her policies are not on TV as much. Same with Bernie.
The Republican lineup is a clown show. Trump for long months at a time DECLARED that Obama was not born in the USA and also stated that he had evidence of it. Same with stating that shit about Obama being a Muslim.
The Obama is a Muslim thing is beyond stupid but it doesn't change anything for me. I still think Trump is the most likely to fix our major issues like outsourcing. He can't be bought out.
I' e always admired Bill Clinton. He can fix a broken system and spread the funds around for all Americans. Here is a man who loves his country and actually shook things up and helped us prosper. I don't really trust Hilary as a politian. I don't trust her to have final
say on crucial matters. As long as Bill is healthy I think we can all find comfort in knowing that when it comes to economics Bill is amongst the best we've had. He knows his stuff. He rails off statistics that are imbedded in his brain.
You see I'm really not looking forward to another election that is all centered on breaking new ground. Because while everyone celebrates it the key issues go unsolved. Just go back to all the promises Obama made. What has he done for us? Obamacare? Is that a success? The search for Bin Laden was on going. What has he done for the poor and inner city crime? Race relations are worse than they've been in 25yrs maybe more. I'm sure Hilary will do a ton for women's rights. I'm for more qualified women in power and management position. I'm all for more blacks in position of authority. What has Obama done to positively influence Black Americans? Especially in places like Ferguson, Baltimore, Chicago etc. He hasn't done enough. Instead he took a stance that cops are corrupt. He could've brought peace during that tumultuous time. Who can be a more positive influence on these communities than this President? But no, he's been too busy vacationing like every other failed President and making appearances at sporting events
martin wrote:gunsnewing wrote:No question about that. I made that very clear earlier in the thread. Coincidently putting a stop to outsourcing is one of Trump's main priorities but people will continue to focus on racism and the things he said about women when he was an entertainer. It's not rocket science and Truml gets it. Brings jobs back to America. Decrease the national debt and everyone is happy, busy working,'and less time and need for violent crime
Trumps first "Detailed" plan increates the national debt. So already he has failed?
I don't think so but even if there are holes in his plan Have more confidence in him doing whatever it takes to fix the debt. Whereas the other candidates will ignore it like their predecessors and only the 1% will continue to prosper
gunsnewing wrote:martin wrote:gunsnewing wrote:No question about that. I made that very clear earlier in the thread. Coincidently putting a stop to outsourcing is one of Trump's main priorities but people will continue to focus on racism and the things he said about women when he was an entertainer. It's not rocket science and Truml gets it. Brings jobs back to America. Decrease the national debt and everyone is happy, busy working,'and less time and need for violent crime
Trumps first "Detailed" plan increates the national debt. So already he has failed?
I don't think so but even if there are holes in his plan Have more confidence in him doing whatever it takes to fix the debt. Whereas the other candidates will ignore it like their predecessors and only the 1% will continue to prosper
Trump was great tonight. You know if he came in with the demeanor he has shown over the last week--it would all be over. The guy is just motivated and dedicated--I think when we go beyond the BS--hes the best candidate
Trump is definitely not in this for the campaign money
gunsnewing wrote:Trump is definitely not in this for the campaign money
LOL
Might be a lot of money for the other candidates but Trump probably has more money in his dress shirt pocket
gunsnewing wrote:Might be a lot of money for the other candidates but Trump probably has more money in his dress shirt pocket
Trump is in it to raise his brand. Same as Fiorina, Huckabee, Cruz, Carson, Jindal, Santorum. They all know they can't win, might as well get book deals, speaking fees and Fox News commentary jobs.
our wonderful President again is focusing on gun control. Meanwhile is his hometown of Chicago 6,000 have died from gun violence since 2012. Not a peep from Obama addressing this epidemic. Worthless leader. Bordering on worthless human being. Completely oblivious and tone death
I can't help but wonder if any of the teenagers murdered in Chicago look like the son Obama never had? It's interesting that the President hasn't chosen to comment on that particular topic.
Sorry you feel that way Martin. I'm just very frustrated with everything that's been going on. Do you agree that this country is as divisive as its ever been in our life time. The President's actions are making things worst. That is my opinion. How are stricter gun laws going to stop a deranged individual? Why was this Oregon kid singling out Christians? What made him think it was ok to do this? Were all the Christians killed evil? Clearly the kid is nuts but why did he single them out? Inread the articles I retract my statement that Obama is worthless. I'm glad he has addressed Chicago. Somethings are out of his control but I can't help to think how much better off we would be with a different leader
This stuff happens because these nut jobs and violent criminals know they can't be stopped. Statistics show that there is less guns violence in states that are allow cicitzens to carry. You'd be less likely to us an illegal gun to do the crime if you knew anyone could be packing any time. No doubt in my mind crime would decrease feasting in this cities. They would to come up with a with a system of periodic psychological evaluation and suspension of license for misuse. Similar to vehicle regristration. You don't want someone using a gun because they are having a bad day. Even in that rare occurrence I believe gun violence would significantly drop
gunsnewing wrote:Sorry you feel that way Martin. I'm just very frustrated with everything that's been going on. Do you agree that this country is as divisive as its ever been in our life time. The President's actions are making things worst. That is my opinion. How are stricter gun laws going to stop a deranged individual? Why was this Oregon kid singling out Christians? What made him think it was ok to do this? Were all the Christians killed evil? Clearly the kid is nuts but why did he single them out? Inread the articles I retract my statement that Obama is worthless. I'm glad he has addressed Chicago. Somethings are out of his control but I can't help to think how much better off we would be with a different leader
I can understand the frustration, but to go as far as call someone a worthless human being and a worthless leader is beyond frustration, it's ignorance without doing your due diligence on the subject.
Our country is as divisive as ever but I would argue that the President's actions are NOT making things worse. Find the source of it man. In this particular instance, the President has begged, pleaded, called for action, spoke about it in his freaking State of the Union addresses, and yet the Republicans have not even called for a VOTE on legislation that is sitting before them, legislation that a good majority - somewhere around 60% depending on what you ask, poll or whatever about it - of Americans agree with and think this would make a better nation around gun control. The Republican party is measured by their individual votes and stances according to the NRA, which is just really a big old lobbying arm for the gun manufacturers. From the Speaker on down, they take money from the NRA, vote according to the wishes of the NRA, get rated by the NRA, etc. and they are scared as shit to bring up legislation around this.
There are many studies, use Google to research yourself, around some sensible laws in Connecticut and perhaps Maryland that show that putting into place background checks before buying (or perhaps selling or both) guns reduces gun violence/deaths. One-to-one correlation? Who knows, but there is a trend there.
gunsnewing wrote:This stuff happens because these nut jobs and violent criminals know they can't be stopped. Statistics show that there is less guns violence in states that are allow cicitzens to carry. You'd be less likely to us an illegal gun to do the crime if you knew anyone could be packing any time. No doubt in my mind crime would decrease feasting in this cities. They would to come up with a with a system of periodic psychological evaluation and suspension of license for misuse. Similar to vehicle regristration. You don't want someone using a gun because they are having a bad day. Even in that rare occurrence I believe gun violence would significantly drop
show me.
Guns, over and over and over again. If you want to talk politics or argue cultural stuff, if you don't bring research and background information from a reasonable source, you aint doing anything. Just don't sprout out stuff, be thoughtful about it; reasonable people will be persuaded and take your side if it's substantiated.
Yea its shitty all around. I'm not trying to persuade anyone. Nor should anyone else unless you are on the inside. No one really knows what's really going on. Not even the media. Problem is they speak as if they know force their opinions on people that can't think for themselves.
All I want is for people to keep asking questions and continue to demand change and not let corrupt government politians & corporations walk over us I will be happy. Hopefully our leader will is strong enough to fight for us. Unfortunately Obama does not have everyone's support and trust. I don't think we will prosper until we are united as a nation. Sadly that may never happen and we will continue to self destruct
Chances are it doesn't matter who we elect. Nothing will change. Big Corporations will continue to do whatever they want. We will continue to class imbalance, corruption, outsourcing, screwed up Healthcare for vets and people who actually work, threat of terrorism and national debt. Chances are even if Trump is elected he is going to find that trying to persuade congress is nothing like how he ran his business with an iron fist. But I still think he has the best shot. The others candidates don't have a chance. Hillary is just as divisive if not more than Obama. A lot of people despise her. She will never have the support of the GOP. However they may support Trump's policies which I feel will benefit all Americans. If wanting to curb outsourcing and bring jobs back to America is conservative then I think we can all benefit from being a little conservative. What is the liberal plan Is there one? The way I see it is some of the more conservation plans directly help us while liberal ideas help the rest of the world like China and weaken us. As evident by our current events and divisiveness and empower religious fanatics to kill inocent people because of their religion
